User has not uploaded an avatarWhat is the correct amount of sugar?

1 year ago | Michael (Member)

Hi All,

I am very new this brewing game, but loving it.
I have just about finished drinking my first barrel of Wherry, it’s to good for words.
The second barrel of wherry will be ready in about one week.
And all being well, my third barrel will be delivered tomorrow.
I have a question for one of you experts out there. The Wherry instructions say to add half a teaspoon of sugar per pint that equals about 100grams. Reading the Forum it has been suggested that 80 grams should be added. What effects will the amounts of sugar have on the beer (my first one did take six weeks to clear)?
Cheers,
Mike.

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  1. greg
    Greg:

    Posted 1 year ago by Admin

    Hi Mike, the more sugar the fizzier your beer will be, well in Theory anyway although there won't be much difference between 80 and 100g. Either will be fine to be honest.

    Regards

    Greg.

    Planning:Maybe a lager.
    Fermenting:
    Conditioning:Pale with Styrians
    Drinking:Cascade Pale Ale, Summer Lightning
  2. User has not uploaded an avatar
    C2H5OH:

    Posted 1 year ago by Member

    As greg says not much difference between 80g and 100g you can even go with 60g if you don't want it quite as fizzy. I wouldn't put 100g in unless you've got a king keg, I've got bugget barrels myself and put about 90g in the wherry that I'm drinking as we speak and the barrel is a little bit too swollen up for my liking so trying to get a few pints down me tonight to relive the pressure
    6 weeks to clear is about right, the instructions on the packs lie about it being ready in 3 - 4 I've not found a single kit thats ready in less than 6 week, I normally leave mine for 8 weeks if I can keep away from it

    Drinking - woodfords wherry, brewmaker northumberland brown ale.
    Conditioning - Woodfords Great eastern ale, Parsnip wine, Rhubarb wine.
    Brewing - nothing at the minute
    Planing - Coopers ginger beer, 5L turbo peach thanks to bmsleight, maybe beetroot wine if there enough spare on the alotment,
  3. Hamish
    Hamish:

    Posted 1 year ago by Moderator

    8 weeks! how do you do that?

    Acquire a taste for Wheat beer, ready in 3 weeks & I struggle to leave it that long.

    Planning: Vienna lager, Wheat beer fermented with Gutmann yeast, ESB
    Fermenting: Wheat beer
    Maturing/Conditioning:
    Drinking: Pseudo-Lager, Oatmeal stout & Shop bought stuff
  4. Beermonkey
    Neil:

    Posted 1 year ago by Member

    I'm with C2H...

    You can go as low as 60gms of sugar especially in the smaller 2 gallon barrels. Unfortunately i put 80gms in mine and it's swolen considerably. Again i might have to aleviate the issue by sinking a couple of pints

    I tend to put only 1/2 tsp in when i am bottling my beer and the sugar goes in the bottle. Although that's up to the individual there.

    Neil

  5. User has not uploaded an avatar
    Michael:

    Posted 1 year ago by Member

    Thank you all for your help.
    Hamish, I have no idea what wheat beer is, but drinking it in three weeks!!
    I am going to research this brew right now.

    Cheers All,
    Mike.

  6. nath812
    Nath:

    Posted 1 year ago by Moderator

    And research you will!

    Conditionin'/Drinkin' - OPA Pale
    Conditionin' - LEB Pale
    Conditionin' - Thwaits Nutty Black
    Plannin' - A user upper!
  7. User has not uploaded an avatar
    C2H5OH:

    Posted 1 year ago by Member

    German wheat beer is one of my favourate beers was a bit unsure about how good the kits would be. do the kit's make it heff style (cloudy) or crystal (clear)? is it best to do it in bottles or is it ok in keg ?

    Drinking - woodfords wherry, brewmaker northumberland brown ale.
    Conditioning - Woodfords Great eastern ale, Parsnip wine, Rhubarb wine.
    Brewing - nothing at the minute
    Planing - Coopers ginger beer, 5L turbo peach thanks to bmsleight, maybe beetroot wine if there enough spare on the alotment,
  8. Hamish
    Hamish:

    Posted 1 year ago by Moderator

    Don't know about the kits, haven't brewed one since the only place you could get them was Boots. I understand they're much better these days.

    Can't imagine its such a big leap to extract brewing, just steep a few grains & chuck a few hops into the boil, the rest is the same isn't it?

    The extract Weizen I've brewed have been good, surprisingly so & easy to do too.

    Planning: Vienna lager, Wheat beer fermented with Gutmann yeast, ESB
    Fermenting: Wheat beer
    Maturing/Conditioning:
    Drinking: Pseudo-Lager, Oatmeal stout & Shop bought stuff
  9. beerlover1983
    beerlover1983:

    Posted 1 year ago by Member

    Going to barrel my wherry tomorrow i have brewing sugar will this be better than normal sugar ?

    Planning:A kegerator build
    Fermenting:
    Conditioning: Elderflower wine,Dandelion wine,Ribena wine,summer ale
    Drinking: Turbo Cider/summer ale/way to amarillo/funked up wherry
  10. nath812
    Nath:

    Posted 1 year ago by Moderator

    Either will be fine. The taste will not change as its such a small amount, but if ya have some brewing sugar left then why not use it!

    Conditionin'/Drinkin' - OPA Pale
    Conditionin' - LEB Pale
    Conditionin' - Thwaits Nutty Black
    Plannin' - A user upper!
  11. greg
    Greg:

    Posted 1 year ago by Admin

    I'm with Nath, I would definitely use brewing sugar if I had some. Normal sugar is okay if you don't have any.

    Planning:Maybe a lager.
    Fermenting:
    Conditioning:Pale with Styrians
    Drinking:Cascade Pale Ale, Summer Lightning
  12. Beermonkey
    Neil:

    Posted 1 year ago by Member

    I am with both Greg/Nath brewing sugar is good stuff..

  13. beerlover1983
    beerlover1983:

    Posted 1 year ago by Member

    just barrelled do i need to shake to mix sugar or will it sort itself must say the bit i ended up drinking from syphon was nice. Noticed a tiny bit of sediment went in barrel is that ok ?

    Planning:A kegerator build
    Fermenting:
    Conditioning: Elderflower wine,Dandelion wine,Ribena wine,summer ale
    Drinking: Turbo Cider/summer ale/way to amarillo/funked up wherry
  14. beerlover1983
    beerlover1983:

    Posted 1 year ago by Member

    hope i didnt post that 3x dam phone

    Planning:A kegerator build
    Fermenting:
    Conditioning: Elderflower wine,Dandelion wine,Ribena wine,summer ale
    Drinking: Turbo Cider/summer ale/way to amarillo/funked up wherry
  15. Beermonkey
    Neil:

    Posted 1 year ago by Member

    Hi Beerlover,

    I have recently bottled some of my ale i place 1/2 tsp of sugar in each bottle and gave it a gentle shake. Then left well alone for about 9-10 days. It was difficult i must admit because i just wanted to drink it there and then. But it will be worth the wait in the end i am sure.

    I think it is also personal preference as to whether you need to shake it or not. See what others say?

    Cheers
    Neil

  16. nath812
    Nath:

    Posted 1 year ago by Moderator

    Sorted for ya.

    I never shake, as to begin with there is a lil bit of air in the top of the bottle so I find it best practice not to mix, it will work fine without a shake (though it probably wont make any difference)

    Conditionin'/Drinkin' - OPA Pale
    Conditionin' - LEB Pale
    Conditionin' - Thwaits Nutty Black
    Plannin' - A user upper!
  17. beerlover1983
    beerlover1983:

    Posted 1 year ago by Member

    Ok cheers nath what about the tiny blob of sediment that went in will i have problems from that.

    I thoaght that the syphons had a little plastic thing on the end to stop that happening mine is just a tube with a tap should one of came with the kit.

    Planning:A kegerator build
    Fermenting:
    Conditioning: Elderflower wine,Dandelion wine,Ribena wine,summer ale
    Drinking: Turbo Cider/summer ale/way to amarillo/funked up wherry
  18. nath812
    Nath:

    Posted 1 year ago by Moderator

    Nah it'll settle out at the bottom with the yeast that will drop out. Just pour in 1 go and leave a few cm in the bottom of the bottle and you wont pour it out.

    Conditionin'/Drinkin' - OPA Pale
    Conditionin' - LEB Pale
    Conditionin' - Thwaits Nutty Black
    Plannin' - A user upper!
  19. wildbrew
    wildbrew:

    Posted 1 year ago by Member

    I put 50gms of sugar in syrup form in the barrel when i use a 40 pint kit like a EDME kit
    this gives me the gas i need to get at least five pints in one night before i have to add gas.

  20. saracen
    saracen:

    Posted 1 year ago by Moderator

    I use 60 gms of sugar/brewing sugar and dissolve it in the first litre or so of beer I syphon out of the fermenter. Put this in the barrel and add the rest of the beer. This makes sure it's thoroughly mixed without the massive physical effort of picking it up and shaking it while running the risk of dropping it and losing the lot.

    If you're not living on the edge..... you're taking up too much space!!

    Planning: - To get some more brews on now the weather's a bit cooler
    Fermenting: - Ginger Beer experiment
    Conditioning: - A normal bitter with Styrians
    Drinking: - All of it!!

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