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Tip Ale
Ok .. brewday tomorrow!
The name is T(raditional) IPA(le) and at the moment the place looks like a tip as I've been building a new computer station.
I've gone traditional as I got a really nice full rich taste with a brew at the end of last year in which I used palm sugar (a first!) and I want to know if it was the sugar which did it. I should be able to tell with this build. I also feel like making a high-hop beer with a big kick.
Batch Size: 23.00 L
Estimated OG: 1.072 SG
Estimated Color: 8.2 EBC
Estimated IBU: 59.0 IBU
6.00 kg Pale Malt (2 Row) UK (2.5 EBC)
0.50 kg Wheat Malt, Bel (3.0 EBC)
70.00 gm Goldings, East Kent [4.60 %] (60 min)
70.00 gm Fuggles [3.90 %] (60 min)
30.00 gm Goldings, East Kent [4.60 %]
30.00 gm Fuggles [3.90 %] (0 min) (Aroma)
1.32 tsp Irish Moss (Boil 15.0 min)
0.50 kg Palm Sugar (15.8 EBC)
Mash Schedule: Single Infusion, Full Body, Batch Sparge 66.0 C
Should come out (if all goes to plan), smack on 7% ABV
How I love brewdays - alarm all set for 5.30am!
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Responses
Posted 1 year ago by Admin
Sounds like a monster but reckon it will be very tasty after a couple of months conditioning.
Fermenting:
Conditioning:Pale with Styrians
Drinking:Cascade Pale Ale, Summer Lightning
Posted 1 year ago by Member
Too true... how am I going to be able to keep my hands off it?
Life, life... give my creature life!
Bottled the ginger beer this evening and I've got half a pint still here in the glass ..... giving me evils! Got a kick like a thing with big boots on. Cold seems to have run away screaming too!
Onward and downward!
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Posted 1 year ago by Admin
Get stuck in. I'm "sampling" some of my wears right now. QC you understand...
Fermenting:
Conditioning:Pale with Styrians
Drinking:Cascade Pale Ale, Summer Lightning
Posted 1 year ago by Member
Hmmm .. if anyone has ever wondered what burnt hops would add (or detract) to (from) the flavour of their beer... I may be able to tell you in a few days.
Somehow some hops got under the plate which covers the elements on my boiler. Everything was going great up to 5 mins from the end of the boil, then I could smell burning. I continued to the end of the boil and have finished the brew (which is now with yeast and waiting to get started) but I don't hold out much hope.
I'll finish the ferment but this one may be destined for the drain. I'll report back in a few days!
Tip ale may become tip down the drain ale
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Posted 1 year ago by Admin
Bummer. How did it taste? It might be okay? Perhaps the other half will take pity and give you the green light for round 2.
Fermenting:
Conditioning:Pale with Styrians
Drinking:Cascade Pale Ale, Summer Lightning
Posted 1 year ago by Member
:o)
Funny you should say that .. she was out at the time and I did my best when she returned, with my puppy dog eyes and all that. I'll even buy flowers tomorrow.
I didn't taste it. I know I should have, but if it was shite I would have had to ditch it right there and then and I don't know if I could have made it past that. I've only just stopped crying now, 12 hours later.
I read some (historical) shite (lot of it about tonight) on the net about someone burning the hops and discovering guinness. Bollocks. Obviously written by someone who knows nothing about brewing beer. I, on the other hand...
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Posted 1 year ago by Admin
You never know. I can't imagine that the burnt hops have come into much contact with your wort so I should be okay. The high ABV/IBU should be able to cope with some flavours anyway so you might get away with it.
Fermenting:
Conditioning:Pale with Styrians
Drinking:Cascade Pale Ale, Summer Lightning
Posted 1 year ago by Member
Ok .. here's the pics, little small but hoping they'll fit.
Changed the original spec by dropping the palm sugar to 300g. Thinking about it, it could be the sugar which made the hops stick to the element. Only used sugar once before, I put it in 15 mins from the end, maybe I should have waited until the boil was finished and put it in with the aroma hops??
This dropped the estimated OG down to 1069 and I hit 1067 so that's about the only thing that I'm happy with!
I have a lovely thick kraussen at the moment .. but it's very dark. What do you think on removing it, could it improve it do you think? Just wondering how much of the 'burntness' is held in it. Does anyone ever remove the kraussen?
Cheers all!
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Posted 1 year ago by Admin
Funny you should say that I was having the same conversation with a friend the other day. The dark stuff is the yeast kicking out all the muck so I would probably remove with a sterile spoon. I think the general is split between leaving and removing. You risk contaminating by removing but I think it should be fine if you are careful. The best way is to use a blow off tube but never done that myself.
If I were you I would carefully remove.
Great Pictures by the way!
Fermenting:
Conditioning:Pale with Styrians
Drinking:Cascade Pale Ale, Summer Lightning
Posted 1 year ago by Moderator
Nice one for the piccys tony, I reckon it will be fine whats a bit of burnt sugar amongst hopes eh?
Conditionin' - LEB Pale
Conditionin' - Thwaits Nutty Black
Plannin' - A user upper!
Posted 1 year ago by Member
lol ... it's fermenting away nicely at the moment anyway.
I believe the 'double-drop' method of fermenting removes the kraussen... and that always delivers a nice clean crisp pint.
OK, you've talked me into it!
Of course, this could turn out to be an amazing find .. but repeating it is likely to be very difficult! :o)
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Posted 1 year ago by Moderator
Double drop - indulge me! Whats that then?
Conditionin' - LEB Pale
Conditionin' - Thwaits Nutty Black
Plannin' - A user upper!
Posted 1 year ago by Member
Ok - the deed is done. Oddly enough, most of the burned smell has gone (could be masked by very vigorous yeast activity). Smells quite nice to be honest and the colour is a deep golden; not what I was aiming for by a long way, but not bad.
I'll keep updating progress (or lack of it)
Well .. just finished making bread with the spent grain:
will be in the oven in an hour, so not all is lost :o)
Can I hear someone whistling whilst being nailed to a bit of wood?
EDIT: That's the grain by the way - not the bread :o)
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Posted 1 year ago by Member
Hey nath
Marstons do a lovely double drop if you can get hold of one. Got one here I'm saving for tonight :o)
I looked it up a while back... check here
http://zythophile.wordpress.com/2008/09/24/a-tasty-drop-the-history-of-an-almost-vanished-fermentation-system/
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Posted 1 year ago by Admin
I had some double drop beer the other day. Not sure if it Marstons, Can't remember, the missus bought it for me. I do remember it was only 3.5%. It was okay, nothing too exciting to be honest but drinkable none the less.
Fermenting:
Conditioning:Pale with Styrians
Drinking:Cascade Pale Ale, Summer Lightning
Posted 1 year ago by Member
Hmmm ... don't know what that was. the Marston's is 5%. Had it last night .. lovely!
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Posted 1 year ago by Member
OK .. so here are the results of the Luxembourg jury...
Tonight it was ready for racking. Looked beautiful, nice pale honey colour, gorgeous smell of citrus/tangerine. Got the missus to hold a glass while I directed the flow momentarily to it and then we both took a sip.
I'm tempted to say it tasted like shite... but it didn't, it just tasted burnt. There is no way me or anyone else is ever going to drink it... holding onto it is pointless. With a tear in my eye, it went down the drain.
The silver lining of this particular thundercloud being that the other half saw the look of sheer disappointment on my face (impossible to hide) and said I could do another brew this weekend. I won't be able to get the gear in in time so we settled on the following weekend.
I've never had to tip a beer before, The Last Post was playing in my head. I saluted.
Now the big question... do I do an identical brew (obviously without the %$£*-up), or do I do something different. Part of me wants to do a porter/stout but I'm addicted to hops and I can't see anything much above the 38ish mark in IBUs. This wouldn't be an issue if I could brew every day.
Well .. at least research is fun :o) I'm off to look up some clones that aren't called dolly.
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Posted 1 year ago by Moderator
I feel for you man, but I reckon you do the brew again and show it that your not scared, show it your inner beer-barron and when its fermented you drink it like a beer starved monk on thursday.
Conditionin' - LEB Pale
Conditionin' - Thwaits Nutty Black
Plannin' - A user upper!
Posted 1 year ago by Member
:o)
Outstanding plan.
I'll get me habit.
:o)
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Posted 1 year ago by Admin
Get back on that Horse and brew it again. I had to tip a brew down the drain a couple of months ago (which was disgusting due to big lag time and infection) but did the same recipe again and came out cracking second time. Otherwise you'll never know.
Fermenting:
Conditioning:Pale with Styrians
Drinking:Cascade Pale Ale, Summer Lightning
Posted 1 year ago by Member
OK, you've talked me into it!
I'm using hop bags though, at least until I've found a way of securing the element cover. I found a way around not having a hop-bed for filtering... I take the hop bags out when the aroma steep has finished, put them in a sieve and run the brew through it, seems to work quite well.
Thanks for the advice folks... I'll be ordering later today!
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