GazzTinkering with Kits

1 year ago | Gazz (Member)

As my mate is an avid lager drinker & rubbishing home brew contstantly, I was wondering if I could add a few things to a Lager kit like some hops when I add the boiling water.

Secondly are the Larger kits any good?

Has anyone tried this or even adding any other ingredients to make it more exciting.

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  1. nath812
    Nath:

    Posted 1 year ago by Moderator

    You could grab a standard lager kit, use light spraymalt, make a sazz hop tea and ferment with some s23 yeast at a lower temp I reckon that would definatly up any standard lager kit.

    Wicked! friday! Beer!

    Drinkin' - nowt, it's all gone
    Plannin'-
    Loads a beer after an upgrade!

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  2. Hamish
    Hamish:

    Posted 1 year ago by Moderator

    Definitely use light spraymalt instead of sugar as Nath suggests, replace gram for gram.

    In the Wheeler book I have he suggests adding 15 grams of hops (in a Muslin bag) & simmering with the kit for a few minutes then letting the infusion stand for 15 minutes to half an hour. You could use Hallertau, Tettnang, Spalt or Saaz.

    If using a basic kit you could steep some grains (again in a Muslin bag) in water at 65C to 70C for half an hour then add the kit to this. I would suggest Carapils malt maybe 100 to 200 grams. This will increase the gravity a touch, will impart a little flavour but will have the most effect on head retention, its what I used to do with my extract brews which is essentially the same process as kits but with a little more control over the flavours.

    If you add grains you will need to boil for sterilisation purposes.

    Also try changing the yeast, Greg has a good selection. The liquid yeasts offer the most possibilities though you may not want to spend that much, otherwise dried yeast is just as good & could be better than the yeast that comes with the kit. Lager yeasts like to be fermented cool, around 10C to 14C.

    Keep us posted.

    Planning: Wheat beer fermented with Schneider Weisse yeast, a Stout, lots of hoppy pale ales
    Fermenting: Summer pale ale
    Maturing/Conditioning: Marynka pseudo-lager
    Drinking: Wheat beer, ESB, Vienna lager & shop bought stuff
  3. Gazz
    Gazz:

    Posted 1 year ago by Member

    Thanks Guys

    Im sure I have some Hallertau left over. I was planning on doing it this weekend so didnt really have time to order off Greg, I know Wilko's have a basic selection going on.

    Im guessing I could use torrefied wheat instead of carapils??
    Also could S04 be used at cooler temps??

  4. Hamish
    Hamish:

    Posted 1 year ago by Moderator

    Didn't notice it was you Gazz, saw kits & thought it was someone new. Most of the stuff I've just written you already know, I could have saved myself some typing.

    As far as I am aware only Crystal Malt, Carapils, Carahell, Roasted Barley, Chocolate Malt, Black Malt, Crystal Wheat, Crystal Rye, Roasted Rye & Chocolate Wheat can be steeped.

    Planning: Wheat beer fermented with Schneider Weisse yeast, a Stout, lots of hoppy pale ales
    Fermenting: Summer pale ale
    Maturing/Conditioning: Marynka pseudo-lager
    Drinking: Wheat beer, ESB, Vienna lager & shop bought stuff
  5. nath812
    Nath:

    Posted 1 year ago by Moderator

    You can use any yeast at its lowest range (around 18c for most ale yeasts) but thats where the problem is. You wnat to use a lager yeast, totally different kettle of fish to ale yeast. Lager yeast is a bottom fermenting yeast while ale is a top fermenting yeast (usually). Lager yeast can smell like rotten eggs as it gives off a sulpher smell, trust me I found out the hard way when I first christened my brewfridge! It will totally change the characteristics of a beer.

    Drinkin' - nowt, it's all gone
    Plannin'-
    Loads a beer after an upgrade!

    nathbrew@gmail.com
  6. simonb_13
    simonb_13:

    Posted 1 year ago by Member

    Gazz

    Why not do an extract brew and then you can make the way you want to?

    Planning: Something with Styrians, Discovery Clone
    Fermenting:
    Condtioning:
    Drinking: Twibute Clone, PJ Clone
  7. Gazz
    Gazz:

    Posted 1 year ago by Member

    I just like the idea of an easy brew that wouldnt take too long. This Lager stuff seems a lot of hassle...an I dont really like the stuff!!

  8. simonb_13
    simonb_13:

    Posted 1 year ago by Member

    Let your mate stew in his own lager!

    We know better. Homebrew rocks!

    Planning: Something with Styrians, Discovery Clone
    Fermenting:
    Condtioning:
    Drinking: Twibute Clone, PJ Clone
  9. Varnish
    Varnish:

    Posted 1 year ago by Member

    http://oz.craftbrewer.org/Library/Methods/Scott/KitImprove.shtml

  10. Mark from Southend
    Mark:

    Posted 11 months ago by Member

    Varnish your link is mostly about tvs and cable

    Planning-Connoiseur Johannisberg Riesling
    Fermenting-Nowt
    Conditioning-Proper Job Comp Beer,Kenridge White Merlot
    Drinking-Raspberry/Lime cider,Grenache Blush Rose,Coopers modified lager
    SG Chardonnay Wine
  11. wildbrew
    wildbrew:

    Posted 11 months ago by Member

    Hi mark
    Try this recipe to make 4 gallons of san miguel-5.5% vol.
    ingredients:
    1/2oz-Hallertau hops
    1-Edme lager kit
    2lb-Golden syrup
    1/2oz-Lager yeast
    This recipe is from DAVE LINE'S BOOK-Brewing Beers Like Those you Buy.

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