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The Lager with no name
As promised here is my first attempt at lager. Brewed it about 2 months ago now and struggled to keep the temp low as I don't have a brew fridge but did okay by freezing PET bottles filled with water then placing them around the fermenter (which was sitting in a bigger container) filled with water. Changed them 2 or 3 times a day and managed to get to about 12c most of the time. Not too bad bearing in mind it was high of summer, although not exactly a scorcher. Turned out pretty good. Very flavoursome and not as dry as I would like but really nice. Improved and mellowed with age, started out quite bitter but this subsided just as the last bottles were consumed.
Recipe Specifications
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Batch Size: 20.00 L
Estimated OG: 1.047 SG
Estimated FG: 1.011 SG
Alcohol Content:4.6%
Estimated Color: 4 EBC
Estimated IBU: 32 IBU
Boil Time: 90 Minutes
Ingredients:
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Amount Item
3500.00 gm Lager Malt
400gm Wheat malt
45.00gm Hallertauer Hersbrucker [3 %] (90 min Boil)
45.00 gm Saaz [2.2 %] (90 min Boil)
15.00 gm Saaz [2.2 %] (15 min Boil)
2038 Wyeast Munich
Fermenting:
Conditioning:Pale with Styrians
Drinking:Cascade Pale Ale, Summer Lightning
Responses
Posted 2 years ago by Moderator
I take it this is the one that I tried? Yeah i really liked it. I rekon its a summer crowd pleaser. More flavoursome that any of the lagers I have tasted but at the same time deffinatly had that "summer drink quenchability" that a lager has.
A quick question - When you boil the hops do you add the sazz and hallertuer at the same time or are they boiled 1 after the other?
Ta,
Nath
Conditionin' - LEB Pale
Conditionin' - Thwaits Nutty Black
Plannin' - A user upper!
Posted 2 years ago by Admin
Hi Nath, yes this is the one I gave you, turned out pretty good, in fact I just finished the last bottle!
Both hops at the same time.
Cheers
Greg.
Fermenting:
Conditioning:Pale with Styrians
Drinking:Cascade Pale Ale, Summer Lightning
Posted 2 years ago by Member
Ever used the Saaz in an IPA Greg? Pretty low on the aa's so could get a nice lot in there!
(with grateful thanks to the Fabulous Furry Freak Brothers and slightly adapted)
Posted 2 years ago by Admin
No I have never tried Saaz in an IPA but I do have a half opened pack in my fridge and planning a pale this weekend so might bung some in at the end.
How did you hop experiment go? Last time we spoke you had done 2 batches with slightly different hop, can't remember which ones?
Fermenting:
Conditioning:Pale with Styrians
Drinking:Cascade Pale Ale, Summer Lightning
Posted 2 years ago by Member
Ha! Well remembered!
Excellent thanks... I used Tettnang in the first and Hallertauer in the second. There isn't the big difference that I originally expected, but the Hallertauer has a much crisper and fruitier taste. Both have now been in the bottle 4 weeks and are just about ready to drink but I'm delaying it as much as is physically possible :o) It was a good experiment using the more traditional lager hops in an IPA, but I think in future, I'll stick to something with a little more b*lls :o)
(with grateful thanks to the Fabulous Furry Freak Brothers and slightly adapted)
Posted 2 years ago by Admin
I've heard the tettnang is a really good hop although I haven't tried as yet. I made a APA with Rakau and NZ Cascade last week and they both smell amazing. First taste out of the fermenter is a little disappointing but I think it will improve as it was quite bitter. I also used a Wyeast which I didn't prep up with a starter and there was quite long lag time so I'm hoping nothing nasty got it there. Time will tell.
I also used some Amber malt in a brew quite a while ago, as we discussed. That didn't turn out well. The Amber is actually a really strong flavour, much stronger than I had anticipated. I only used 500g but its not what I was after. It's drinkable but definitely not one of my better brew's. You've got to try this things though. I think it would be better in smaller qty and matched up with some crystal malt and some fuggle/EKG. I used single hop (first Gold) and again I think this hop was too neutral for the amber malt.
Life would be boring though if I only made a safe beer which I knew I liked.
Fermenting:
Conditioning:Pale with Styrians
Drinking:Cascade Pale Ale, Summer Lightning
Posted 2 years ago by Member
:o) Well said!
Odd that 500g gave such a strong flavour, I'm quite a fan of the amber malt but I have always used it alongside crystal. I saw your recipe for the Rakau Rhino and was just wondering about trying it myself... but as I've just mentioned in another post, I'm limited to what I'm able to make by the missus! (I wonder just how many of us are in the same boat?) Sounds like a real good one though. I'll be making two brews this week - one being the Christmas Ale... maybe that one should be the other?
:o)
(with grateful thanks to the Fabulous Furry Freak Brothers and slightly adapted)
Posted 2 years ago by Member
The lager with no name isn't particularly catchy.
How about (I'm thinking Clint Eastwood in the dollar movies as "the man with no name"):
"Sergio Lager-Onee".
Posted 2 years ago by Moderator
Hey greg as I wanna try this soon (fingers crossed for next week) any chance of going through your process from when the boil had finished. eg the lagering and such.
Sorry to be a pain.
Nath
Conditionin' - LEB Pale
Conditionin' - Thwaits Nutty Black
Plannin' - A user upper!
Posted 2 years ago by Admin
I've only just seen your post Varnish. I agree the name is rubbish but I was feeling very lazy at the time.
I like your one and think I'll use it if I make this beer again.
Fermenting:
Conditioning:Pale with Styrians
Drinking:Cascade Pale Ale, Summer Lightning
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