Strong IPA appreciation thread!

1 year ago | HopLover (Member)

I have big soft spot for over the top hop-fest IPAs and the Americans do them so damn well. True, you can't taste much else after a couple (or one!) of the more extreme ones, but the flavour can be unbelievable.

Stones IPA - 6.9% (My most recent favourite!)

Dogfish Head 90 minute IPA - 9%

Flying Dogs Double Dog Double Pale Ale - 11.5% (Actually a bottle is almost much but this stuff blows your socks off, I could still taste it the next day!!!)

Also Thornbridges Jaipur is worth a mention as a buy on sight IPA, although it is quite subtle considering its strength and is not in the same vein (or so in your face) as the American ones above

Can anyone suggest any other ales (American, UK or whatever) in this style?

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Tony:

Posted 1 year ago by Member

Nice - I'm there with you! (Although I'm more into the high IBUs than the high ABV.)

I've just finished researching the Jaipur and will be posting the recipe here in the next day or two. I'm getting a yeast from Brewlabs so hopefully I'll get pretty close to the original.

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Hamish:

Posted 1 year ago by Moderator

There are a few hop heads around here HopLover, alas I'm not one of them, I even find Timmy Taylors Landlord is more than my taste buds can cope with. A more balanced beer is my prefered cup of tea but I can cope with Jaipur, maybe its the strength that balances the hops?.

Planning: Wheat beer fermented with Schneider Weisse yeast, a Stout, lots of hoppy pale ales
Fermenting: Summer pale ale
Maturing/Conditioning: Marynka pseudo-lager
Drinking: Wheat beer, ESB, Vienna lager & shop bought stuff

Greg:

Posted 1 year ago by Admin

Hoplover, Hi and welcome.

Have you tried brewdog Beers? Punk IPA is a good hoppy beer.

St Austell Proper Job is also worth checking out.

HopLover:

Posted 1 year ago by Member

Yeah I was all over Brewdog at the beginning as I'm from Scotland (orginally!) but their marketing is getting on my nerves. 5am saint and Punk IPA are quite good and widely available.

I am not purely into the strength, but it seems there is a correlation between strength and hopiness.

I am new to the home brew game and am itching to start next week. I think I need to dry hop alot, although I'll start off nice and easy. I got the American Pale Ale kit from this site and may use that as a base for starters.

Hope my flat is warm enough at the moment.

saracen:

Posted 1 year ago by Moderator

Hi Hoplover.

it seems there is a correlation between strength and hopiness.

So it seems, but I don't know if anyone fully understands it. Just when you think you might be able to predict the results froma hop blend, that's when it all goes out the window!

If I could explain one thing about hops. When you brew from the grain there are basically 4 stages where hops are added. First, the bittering hops go into the initial boil to release the Alpha Acid and that is the stage where the most bitterness is created. Then there is the 'last ten minute' hops. These give more flavour and aroma than bitterness because they are not in the boil long enough to extract much of the Alpha Acid. Next, post-boil hops. These go in when the boil has finished and the brew has cooled to below 80c. This gives aroma because the essential oils are released and there is not enough temperature to evaporate them. The last stage is dry hopping, where the hops are added to the Fermenting Vessel throughout the ferment. Actually, in commercial terms, they are usually added to the barrel, but that causes more problems than it's worth. Working with a kit and dry hopping you won't increase the bitterness, only the aroma. If you want to increase the bitternes, use a bittering or dual purpose hop and boil them for 60 minutes in a saucepan and add the liquid to the contents of the FV, Be careful, because you only need a small quantity of hops. There are a load already in the extract in the kit. 10 gms of Golding would be plenty, but the actual quantity depends of the AAU of the hops you are using.

If you're not living on the edge..... you're taking up too much space!!

Planning: - To get some more brews on now the weather's a bit cooler
Fermenting: - Ginger Beer experiment
Conditioning: - A normal bitter with Styrians
Drinking: - All of it!!

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HopLover:

Posted 1 year ago by Member

That's great info, thanks alot. I think I am a way off that though, first I need to make something simple me thinks.

Actually I want more of the aroma, and not too much bitterness, so I will be concentrating on the post boil and dry hopping in the future.

saracen:

Posted 1 year ago by Moderator

You've got it! Keep it simple! Play around with some dry hopping. 5 - 10 gms of any aroma hop will make quite difference.

Hamish:

Posted 1 year ago by Moderator

A while back I brewed a full mash version of Gregs Way To Amarillo extract recipe and very good it was too. Should fit the bill, good aroma, not too much bitterness and a nice simple recipe. In fact its probably the brew I should have started with instead of jumping straight in with a Weizen and risking a set mash or sparge.

Amarillo Pale Ale

Pale Malt 5000g 96.2%
Carapils 200g 3.8%

Amarillo 9.4% 30g 60 mins
Amarillo 9.4% 10g 10 mins
Amarillo 9.4% 10g 0 mins

Protafloc tablet 15 mins

Safale US-05

Final Volume: 23 litres
Original Gravity: 1.051
Final Gravity: 1.012 (US-05 actually fermented out lower than this)
Alcohol Content: 5% ABV
Total Volume: 36 litres
Mash Liquor: 13 Litres
Mash Efficiency: 75%
Boil time: 60 mins
Bitterness: 33 EBU
Colour: 8 EBC

Nath:

Posted 1 year ago by Moderator

Im a bit torn here, I love big hoppy tastes but I love my Fullers ESB and other bitters like Tribute, marstons etc etc. Liek greg says St Austells Proper Job is great, nice aroma and a slight sharpness which fades into toung tingling hop. Good stuff, and the best bit is as soon as you find that recipe you can tinker to your hearts delight and create a massively unbalanced hop monster :twisted:

Drinkin' - nowt, it's all gone

Plannin'-
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saracen:

Posted 1 year ago by Moderator

I just found this Proper Job recipe and the author reckons the taste is fairly accurate.
He also says the colour is out which he puts down to; Colourwise, I didn't get that quite right. It has a reddish tinge rather than the golden I was looking for.....probably a bit too much munich.

Make what you will of it.

Brew length 25 litres
OG est - 1057
FG est - 1015
Est abv - 5.54%
Colour - 6 SRM
IBU 47.5

Grain Bill
Pale Malt (marris otter) - 5kg
Munich Malt - 0.8kg
Carapils - 0.3kg

Hops
Chinook (pellet) - aa11.4% - 30g - 90 mins
Cascade (flowers) - aa7.8% - 20g - 10 mins
Willamette (pellet) - aa5.5% - 25g - 10 mins
Willamette (pellet) - aa5.5% - 30g - 5 mins
Willamette (pellet) - aa5.5% - 30g - 1 min
Cascade (flowers) - aa7.8% - 30g at KO, steeped 20 mins

Yeast US-05

All the recipes I found, 5 or 6, avoid crystal malt and all seem to use a broadly similar hop bill

Tony:

Posted 1 year ago by Member

Mine is here too ... although it's not right it still gives a good beer.

I have one bottle left, may have that tonight

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PMA:

Posted 1 year ago by Member

I have to say, I bought a Brewdog Punk IPA last weekend, chilled it slightly and drank. It's a bloody delicious beer. Loved it. The aroma was bordering on pungent, and at six percent is higher than I usually go, but I'm glad I did.

Gazz:

Posted 1 year ago by Member

These Hop monstors are my favourite. Brew Dogs Punk, Hardcore & 5am Saint are great in the bottles. I recently had Punk & 5am Saint from cask and were out of this world! After my second cask 5am Saint I swithched to a Thornbridge 'Wild Swann' which tasted no more than water!!! Not that it was a bad pint just after such a hop slap in the face I couldnt taste anything else.

Can anyone suggest any other ales (American, UK or whatever) in this style?
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A good one I tried over Xmas was 'Odells IPA'

saracen:

Posted 1 year ago by Moderator

Whilst idly killing a bit of time I came across this on the Knights of the Mashing Fork site. At 122 IBU, and ABV 6.6% it might just fit the bill for a Traditional IPA, even it it is American.

http://kotmf.com/recipes/recipe.php?r=247

You could always use it for stripping paint.

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