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infection :(
Well, (weeping as he types) tropical and my wherry seem to have an infection of sorts.
Speaking to greg about it and he says there is a apple taste in trhopical. I didnt really notice it first but now the trhopical is getting really apple-y and more harsh. My wherry I brewed a week after seems to be more caramel-y smelling than before and I swear its tasting more apple like.
Im unsure whats gone wrong as they both fermented well and tasted fine but its creeping in. I only just tried the wherry so its been 4 weeks and its very clear but the taste is just a little bit off.
The only things that link the wherry and trhopical are videne and 2nd fermentation. Maybe I put into secondary too late and it got oxidised? Or maybe its my sterilisation method, I may go back to chloros for my next brew just incase my videne method aint working too well.
I know that my shed got damp and I have a mould forming on the inside of the roof but I brew in the house, and pitch and seal the fv and only bring it to the shed when I put it into the brewfridge which is clean and closed so I cant see much chance of infection there. My wherry was brewed and kegged all indoors and has the same problem.
So what do you guys think - oxidisation or poor sanitation or something else?
Fermenting - GW's 49er
Planning - An IPA
Planning - Some type of lager
Planning - A hoppy full bodied ale of sorts!
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Posted 6 months ago by Member
Oh no nath ... terrible news! I feel for you, know what you're going through.
Oddly enough I was reading about apple off-tastes (if I remember where I'll paste the link) and it was generally thought that it had something to do with the yeast. Did you use the same yeast for both?
(with grateful thanks to the Fabulous Furry Freak Brothers and slightly adapted)
Posted 6 months ago by Moderator
nope! a wyeast for trhopical, a so4 for the oher ipa (i did same day as trhopical), which i think may be ok and a packaged yeast that came with the wherry
Fermenting - GW's 49er
Planning - An IPA
Planning - Some type of lager
Planning - A hoppy full bodied ale of sorts!
Posted 6 months ago by Member
Hi Nath
The wherry, I really wouldn't worry about. After 2-3 weeks mine developed a caramely taste to it. Give it another week or two and then I have found that has dissapeared (along with most of the brew!!!), and it has developed in to a wonderful malty spitfire like brew.
Feel for you on your other brew though, i have just myself recyceld a 40 pint batch of lager down the drain, after 9 weeks had a rank soapy taste to it. Think it was down to using caster sugar for the whole brew (only one i have ever done this on)
Cheers
Mike
Posted 6 months ago by Member
Old John Palmer has this to say:
'Acetaldehyde
A flavor of green apples or freshly cut pumpkin; it is an intermediate compound in the formation of alcohol. Some yeast strains produce more than others, but generally it's presence indicates that the beer is too young and needs more time to condition.'
Good news there then .. maybe best to hold onto it for a while. Greg was saying in a post recently about how beer changes daily while conditioning.
:o)
(with grateful thanks to the Fabulous Furry Freak Brothers and slightly adapted)
Posted 6 months ago by Moderator
Ta mike, I will never throw a beer un less it gets THAT bad, and THAt bad it certainly aint!
Tony, trouble is its been 5-6 weeks now conditioning so I rekon its a bit of a slippery slope as it tasted fine for the first 2-3 weeks, but I will keep the bottles anyhoo. The APA (on the same day) is fantastic so I rekon it may be the 2nd fermentation that I introduced too much oxygen.
Mmmmmmm, brewing day, no missus or kids, lots of beer, rugby and modernwarfare 2.
SWEEEEEEET!
Fermenting - GW's 49er
Planning - An IPA
Planning - Some type of lager
Planning - A hoppy full bodied ale of sorts!
Posted 6 months ago by Member
Well .. hold onto them anyway, as you say ... as long as you don't need the space or the bottles.
What ya brewing Nath?
I'm making 5 gals of Ginger Wine (which should be ready around christmas with any luck - if I 'push' it a bit) :o)
Just realised I forgot to buy sugar though so need a brief trip out.
Then the rugby - then the footie. Wife and kids out all day.
I've died and gone to heaven.
Just cracked ope a speckled hen too :o)
(with grateful thanks to the Fabulous Furry Freak Brothers and slightly adapted)
Posted 6 months ago by Member
Nath, Tony - you're a couple of lucky gits!
I'm as green as the jerseys on the (hopeful) winners of the rugby today
Enjoy!
Posted 6 months ago by Moderator
What the english?
hehehehehehehe
Good luck to ya mate, should be a good game if england stop kicking the ******* ball all the time!
Fermenting - GW's 49er
Planning - An IPA
Planning - Some type of lager
Planning - A hoppy full bodied ale of sorts!
Posted 6 months ago by Member
Haha!!
Well, I reckon you have a decent chance today. We're still a bit hungover from last year's Grand Slam, not to mention punch drunk from the whalloping by France, so we're deffo there for the taking.
Anyway, enjoy the brewdays and feast of sport! May the best team win and may the brew turn out un-appley (unless you're making cider)!
-Barry
Posted 6 months ago by Moderator
DAMN!
Well done mate, even with a hangover and away you managed to beat us up!
Sorry tony just saw ya post - Im brewing the bitter recipe posted, but the day was a nightmare!
Fermenting - GW's 49er
Planning - An IPA
Planning - Some type of lager
Planning - A hoppy full bodied ale of sorts!
Posted 6 months ago by Member
Thanks, Nath. Could've gone either way, really, but I'll take that.
My brother-in-law, who's originally from Birmingham, managed to get to the game through his work (lucky git). He's also managing, through his work again, to get to the League Cup final. I really hope for his sake that at least one result goes his way this weekend. What I'm really saying is I hope ManYoo get thumped; I hate them even more than alchopops.
As for the nightmare brew day, Nath, it's funny but no matter how frustrating and tedious the process can sometimes be in making a brew, it all seems a distant minor irritation when you're necking the results with great satisfaction.
Posted 6 months ago by Member
So what went wrong Nath?
My day went down the pan when ramsey's leg was broken. Hate seeing that, I even turned off the match. Add to that the defeat in the rugby ..... slippery slope again and all that! And the missus brought the kids home 15 mins into the rugby and had to go out again .... family crisis.. damn in-laws!
Hmm .. best laid plans and all that.
(with grateful thanks to the Fabulous Furry Freak Brothers and slightly adapted)
Posted 6 months ago by Moderator
I hear ya - I posted my nightmare brewday here - http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/standard-bitter-v1
Fermenting - GW's 49er
Planning - An IPA
Planning - Some type of lager
Planning - A hoppy full bodied ale of sorts!
Posted 5 months ago by Moderator
Well well well!
It seems that it must have been some of bottles that I used as my wherry is fine in the keg and the last 2 bottles of trhopical have been great!
All happy now, just need to plan that lager brewing day soon!
Fermenting - GW's 49er
Planning - An IPA
Planning - Some type of lager
Planning - A hoppy full bodied ale of sorts!
Posted 5 months ago by Key Master
Good one Nath. I've got a bottle of trhopical chilling in my fridge right now. Its gonna get drunk very soon.
Fermenting: FFF Moondance
Conditioning: I can't remember (Porter)
Drinking:Turbo Cider, Ringwood 49Er Clone, Summer Lightning, Elderflower Champagne
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