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Extract #2 Twibute Act
Brewed this yesterday evening and, apart from pouring some extract on to the hob and it catching fire, it went OK.
Twibute Act (extract version of Tony's Twibute)
Batch Size: 19.00 L
Estimate OG: 1.043 SG
IBU: 26.8
Estimated Colour: 10.5
Steep Specialty Grains
350.00 gm Caramel/Crystal Malt - 120L
150.00 gm Cara-Pils/Dextrine
Boil Amount Item
60 min 200.00 gm Wheat Dry Extract (8.0 SRM)
60 min 1000.00 gm Light Dry Extract (8.0 SRM)
60 min 15.00 gm Fuggles [3.80 %] (60 min)
60 min 20.00 gm Williamette [6.70 %] (60 min)
15 min 1000.00 gm Light Dry Extract (8.0 SRM)
10 min 18.00 gm Williamette [5.50 %] (10 min)
10 min 25.00 gm Bobek [5.40 %] (10 min)
Missed the OG by 3 points at 1.040. Maybe because I reduced the original boil water from 8 to 6 litres as it looked a bit too much for the old stockpot.
No pics this time as was cooking dinner and trying to watch the tennis! Have got one of a sample that I'll post later.
Ciao
Fermenting:
Condtioning: Twibute Clone
Drinking: 100% wheat, Fixby Gold
Responses
Posted 1 year ago by Moderator
Fire is always good! Well done on the art of extrat.....tery. I must admid I loved my first (and only) extract, it was the summer ale recipe on this site. Looking at that recipe even if it doesnt taste like tribute it will be a great pint. Bobek rocks.
Conditionin' - LEB Pale
Conditionin' - Thwaits Nutty Black
Plannin' - A user upper!
Posted 1 year ago by Member
Fire: The reason all men like BBQs :o)
Great work there Simon .. keep us informed as it progresses! Nice work :o)
(with grateful thanks to the Fabulous Furry Freak Brothers and slightly adapted)
Posted 1 year ago by Member
Um. All yeast head action has stopped already! It hit the lid with only 19 litres so it obviously did something.
Worth a quick stir to reactivate or leave it alone? Yeast went in Wednesday at around 2100.
Thanks
Fermenting:
Condtioning: Twibute Clone
Drinking: 100% wheat, Fixby Gold
Posted 1 year ago by Moderator
Hot weather may have sped things up a bit. I would check with a hydrometer to make sure its not finished before sticking anything into beer. As long as the reading is constant for 2 days and around final gravity then jobs done. If its still high a stir will do fine, just remember to sanitise everything that comes in contact with the lovely lovely beer!
Conditionin' - LEB Pale
Conditionin' - Thwaits Nutty Black
Plannin' - A user upper!
Posted 1 year ago by Member
It's got down to 1014 so I'm going to leave it well alone. Target is 1011 so I think it's OK. Never see it disappear so fast before (in my limited experience of course). My IPA had a good yeast head for about 8 days and it's only just gone.
A well, it's just nature's way of messing with yer heed!
Fermenting:
Condtioning: Twibute Clone
Drinking: 100% wheat, Fixby Gold
Posted 1 year ago by Member
Behold, ditch water:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/65669309@N00/4732504437/
Fermenting:
Condtioning: Twibute Clone
Drinking: 100% wheat, Fixby Gold
Posted 1 year ago by Member
Crumbs, doesnt look very appetising at the moment does it! I'm sure it will be OK.
Posted 1 year ago by Member
That was a sample right after pitching the yeast. So I'm hoping it'll all drop out! Did an SG test a couple of hours ago and it was already looking better.
I'm new to extract so I may have to tune my technique. Any one got any tips? I'm using specialty grains in a nylon sack but quite a bit of "dust" comes out.
Fermenting:
Condtioning: Twibute Clone
Drinking: 100% wheat, Fixby Gold
Posted 1 year ago by Member
What yeast did you use Simon? I used one a couple of months ago that seemed to finish in 24 hours. I left it alone for several days and it started again. S-04 can be over in a couple in warm weather, give it another day or two on that reading and either transfer to secondary or bottle - but be really sure it has finished before you do.
I wouldn't worry about the cloudiness, beers usually clear in the secondary - or if not, after a few weeks in the bottle.
(with grateful thanks to the Fabulous Furry Freak Brothers and slightly adapted)
Posted 1 year ago by Member
Thanks Tony. Safale S-04 was indeed what I used. I shall leave it be and bottle it once the SG has leveled.
I haven't used a secondary before. I just leave it for 2 weeks in the primary and bottle. Something I've done for the kit beers. I'll do that for my IPA but might consider a secondary for the Twibute. Can I use a plastic bucket or does it have to be a glass carboy?
BTW - It smells very nice at the moment.
Fermenting:
Condtioning: Twibute Clone
Drinking: 100% wheat, Fixby Gold
Posted 1 year ago by Moderator
Placcy is fine, make sure its under airlock though as you dont want any nasties getting in. Cant wait to see what the twibute comes out like.
Conditionin' - LEB Pale
Conditionin' - Thwaits Nutty Black
Plannin' - A user upper!
Posted 1 year ago by Member
Bottled the Twibute Act this evening. I bought a bottle of Tribute for comparison and the colour's not far off (very much, more luck than judgment):
http://www.flickr.com/photos/65669309@N00/4753129138/
Smell is close as well but haven't tasted it yet.
4 weeks and counting!
Fermenting:
Condtioning: Twibute Clone
Drinking: 100% wheat, Fixby Gold
Posted 1 year ago by Moderator
That looks mighty fine Si, did you had a sneaky taste while you were bottling?
Conditionin' - LEB Pale
Conditionin' - Thwaits Nutty Black
Plannin' - A user upper!
Posted 1 year ago by Member
Outstanding work!
(with grateful thanks to the Fabulous Furry Freak Brothers and slightly adapted)
Posted 1 year ago by Member
No tasting until it's conditioned! (honest)
Fermenting:
Condtioning: Twibute Clone
Drinking: 100% wheat, Fixby Gold
Posted 1 year ago by Member
Ah well, I finally cracked and opened a bottle to taste. Way too soon but I just couldn't help myself!
Colour wise, mine is quite a bit darker when compared side-by-side. I put that down to me using 120L instead of 60L Crystal Malt (what a muppet!).
Taste wise, the original has a pronounced hop flavour that is definitely lacking with mine. I hope it's because it hasn't conditioned enough but maybe not. Does the hop flavour develop over time?
It's a very nice pint already but still a little harsh. Few more weeks me thinks. Helped by the fact that I'm away for two weeks so it'll be left alone.
Pictures updated shortly.
Fermenting:
Condtioning: Twibute Clone
Drinking: 100% wheat, Fixby Gold
Posted 10 months ago by Member
Apologies Simon if you've updated this string but I couldn't find it.
What was the outcome? Tribute is quite superb, did you get anywhere near it?
Conditioning; St Peter's Ruby Red, London Porter
Planning; White Shield, Diabolo
Drinking; Headcracker
Posted 10 months ago by Member
Here's a visual comparison:
Tastewise the clone had a hoppier taste but none the worse for that. If you like Tribute you'll probably like this.
The recipe is Tony's and I just converted it to Extract so can't take any credit!
Fermenting:
Condtioning: Twibute Clone
Drinking: 100% wheat, Fixby Gold
Posted 10 months ago by Member
Good Pic.
Next one on my list I think.
Cheers.
Conditioning; St Peter's Ruby Red, London Porter
Planning; White Shield, Diabolo
Drinking; Headcracker
Posted 10 months ago by Member
Is it possible to get this recipe written down in a format I can understand? I don't get these weird list things brewers tend to do!
Posted 10 months ago by Member
Use the brewing method outlined in the Way to Amarillo extract recipe but add the steeping of grains bit at the beginning of this recipe.
Twibute Act (extract version of Tony's Twibute)
Batch Size: 19.00 L (The final volume of wort)
Estimate OG: 1.043 SG
IBU: 26.8 (Bitterness)
Estimated Colour: 10.5
Put these grains in a grain bag and steep in 6L water at between (65c and 70c)for 30 mins
350g Caramel/Crystal Malt - 120L (120 Lovabonds - this is colour rating of the grain)
150g Cara-Pils/Dextrine
Take the grains out and discard. Bring that water to the boil.
Add the following items at the beginning of the 60 minute boil.
60 min 200g Wheat Dry Extract
60 min 1kg Light Dry Extract
60 min 15g Fuggles
60 min 20g Williamette
Add the following with 15 minutes left of the boil.
15 min 1kg Light Dry Extract
Add the following with 10 minutes left of the boil.
10 min 18g Williamette
10 min 25g Bobek
Pour through a sieve into a FV and top up to the desired final volume (19 litres). Wait until cool enough to pitch the yeast. Stir vigorously to aerate and add the yeast.
How's that work for you?
Fermenting:
Condtioning: Twibute Clone
Drinking: 100% wheat, Fixby Gold
Posted 10 months ago by Member
Makes much more sense cheers! I've just realised though, I totally forgot to thrash/aerate my Amarillo atvthe weekend
Posted 10 months ago by Member
It'll be fine. That US05 is a monster yeast. It'll go at it like rat up a drainpipe.
Fermenting:
Condtioning: Twibute Clone
Drinking: 100% wheat, Fixby Gold
Posted 6 months ago by Member
i made a batch of this up on monday. Made it up to 23l cos i had the ingredients and it bubbled up over the sides. Looks like it's finished now with a fg of 1.017. Safe to bottle or shall i leave it? If i leave it it'll be monday before it gets bottled. I don't want to leave it hanging around in this heat!
Fermenting: Second crack at Twibute, a prototype all grain Bass clone
Conditioning:
Drinking: Twibute extrAct, Raspberry beer, ginger beer, Chilli Old Peculier, Hop Back Summer Lightning clone
Posted 6 months ago by Member
Might be a wee bit high but you need to take readings over 2 or 3 days. If they remain constant then it's stopped fermenting and can be bottled. Leaving it until Monday should be fine.
Fermenting:
Condtioning: Twibute Clone
Drinking: 100% wheat, Fixby Gold
Posted 6 months ago by Moderator
Hi Chef. 1.018 is a bit high. You really want to be down to 1.012. If you take hydro readings at 24 hr intervals, when it stays the same the ferment is over and it can be bottled. Bottling at 1.018 will almost certainly lead to a great deal of pressure in the bottles.
You really should leave it in the FV for 2 weeks. That will make sure the ferment is over and the beer will be almost clear, which means less sediment in the bottles. If you're worried about the heat, and my FV only shows 19.2°c today, drape a damp towel over it.
Planning: - To get some more brews on now the weather's a bit cooler
Fermenting: - Ginger Beer experiment
Conditioning: - A normal bitter with Styrians
Drinking: - All of it!!
Posted 6 months ago by Member
it really looks like it's done to me but i don't want to screw it up so i will take your advice. Thank you! Might move it out of the kitchen- it's 23C at the moment. I worried it would be too warm to brew but the yeast seems happy. The cooler area is carpeted so glad it wasn't there initially.
Fermenting: Second crack at Twibute, a prototype all grain Bass clone
Conditioning:
Drinking: Twibute extrAct, Raspberry beer, ginger beer, Chilli Old Peculier, Hop Back Summer Lightning clone
Posted 6 months ago by Moderator
It could be done, but to only ferment down to 1.018 from 1.043 indicates an attenuation of only about 60%. I don't know which yeast you used, but nearly all of them will go to 75% which brings it down to 1.010.
If you take hydro readings 24 hours apart that will tell you if the fermentation is still going on.
Hi Simon.
The brewing method you outlined isn't 100% correct. WTA is a recipe originally formulated for extract and the hop bill will be adjusted for that brewing method. Twibute is an AG recipe and the hop bill will be suited to the SG of that recipe. Although it won't make much difference, you need to keep the SG of the wort at around 1.040 to 1.050 in order for the hop extraction efficiency to work correcly. (That's why an 8.0 lt boil is better than 6.0 lts.) Because of this, only 1 kg of DME goes in the boil and all the rest of the DME goes in after the boil. The last 2 hops at 10 mins will impart some bitterness, and with the extra DME added before, the amount of extraction will be considerably lower.
I'm not sure if you have Beer Engine, but if you do, load up a recipe with 1.0 kg of any DME and 50 gms of Target hops with the volume set at 6.0 lts. You'll see you get 240 IBU. Add a further 1.0 kg of DME and check the IBU. Then add another and check again. You'll see how drastically the IBU goes down as the SG goes up.
Planning: - To get some more brews on now the weather's a bit cooler
Fermenting: - Ginger Beer experiment
Conditioning: - A normal bitter with Styrians
Drinking: - All of it!!
Posted 4 weeks ago by Member
22112011023 by Chef 57, on Flickr
Mine was considerably darker than the Tribute, and had much more maltiness to it, and an accompanyingly thicker mouthfeel. Very pleasant but lacking the hop kick of the original.
I called it "Here Comes The Swell" after a Peter Bruntnell song (Here Come The Swells) because I had my first pint of draft Tribute after the first time I went surfing
I've got another batch brewing at the moment, this time with WYEAST 1768 Special Bitter Yeast (instead of S-04) a little less crystal malt and way more hops. I've had a little sniff of it and it smells hoppy!
I made a few mistakes making the current batch - I took a hydrometer reading and it was very low (1.020) so I boiled up some of the wort with an extra bit of extract in it and chucked it in to the FV. Then I realised I should have stirred the wort before taking the OG!! Oops. Going to be a strong one for me - OG was 1.050. I shouldn't have tried to do a brew while cooking for the family!
Fermenting: Second crack at Twibute, a prototype all grain Bass clone
Conditioning:
Drinking: Twibute extrAct, Raspberry beer, ginger beer, Chilli Old Peculier, Hop Back Summer Lightning clone
Posted 4 weeks ago by Member
I think I'm gonna ponder over that a little then give it a crack...
Drinking: Flasher the Dasher, St Peter's Ruby, Thunderbolt, Beam Reach, the last few bottles of Autumn Cider.
Fermenting: TTL and WTA.
Planning: A Proper Job extract clone !
Posted 4 weeks ago by Moderator
Tony's Twibute was very popular.
Where is Tony?
We all miss you, mate.
Planning: - To get some more brews on now the weather's a bit cooler
Fermenting: - Ginger Beer experiment
Conditioning: - A normal bitter with Styrians
Drinking: - All of it!!
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