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Cornelius keg
A Cornelius keg, or Corny Keg is a stainless steel keg produced in America.
It hold 19 litres or 5 US gallons.
They can be charged from a high pressure gas cylinder, and can withstand pressures up to 130 PSI.
This makes it perfect for homebrew use as it gives the user a great level of variation in the serving style of each particular beer.
They stand about 3 foot tall and have 3 hole in the top.
Two of the holes have lugs screwed to them. They are refered to as posts.
There is an IN:
And OUT:
The IN post is where you connect the gas to the keg.
The OUT post is where you connect the tap to the keg.
The posts consist of 3 parts. The main post body, a spring poppet valve, and a dip tube.
The outlet has a long dip tube which reaches to the bottom of the keg.
When the beer is under pressure the beer is forced up the tube to your serving tap.
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Posted 2 years ago by Member
To connect the gas bottle and tap to the keg you use Quick disconects:
Grey is for the IN post and black for the OUT post.
They look the same, but are different so you can't mix them up.
Inside the disconnect is a small race of ball bearings which lock onto the post.
They have a pull back collar to allow you to connect and disconnect from the keg:
The disconnects consist of 3 parts. The body, poppet valve and screw lid.
Connect it to your tap or gas cylinder in this fashion:
Posted 2 years ago by Member
The lid is very simple. Its oval shaped, and has a metal buckle to close the lid.
It's held in place by the pressure inside the keg so it seals very well when under pressure.
It has a pressure relief valve which consists of 3 parts.
The body, spring valve and pull ring.
The body is grooved so you can leave the valve open to completely de-pressurise the keg without holding it.
I use the relief vale to vent the keg of air when I add gas.
When it comes to pressuring the keg you've got a few different options.
I've got a few different gas cylinders. However they can be expensive if you have to rent them. And if you buy a bottle it's almost impossible to find a company that will fill it for you. But it can be done.
You'll need a regulator to power the system.
The types of gas available are different. And different gas bottles need different regulators.
Posted 2 years ago by Member
This is a cylinder of beer gas 70/30 Nitrogen/carbon dioxide mix.
It needs a regulator with a male thread. This one has two gauges one displays the pressure in the gas bottle. The other the pressure in the keg.
This is a CO2 bottle and regulator. The bottle has a male thread, so the regulator has a female thread.
This one is single gauge, and only displays the pressure in the keg.
I've put my set up in a fridge with a tap on top.
Happy kegging.
Posted 2 years ago by Admin
Excellent post Varnish. I'm go add a link from the main website to this as lots of people ask about cornelius kegs and I don't (as yet) use them myself.
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Posted 2 years ago by Member
New to the forum and just taking a look around.
I've found a company who do a rental free option on welding gases for my MIG welder, they also do drink gases from pure CO2 to mixes and of various sizes.
Here is a link to their web site. I found their service to be first class and have used them for some time now.
http://www.adamsgas.co.uk/stat_dis_pricing.aspx?ctrl=pricing
Posted 1 year ago by Admin
Varnish, where did you get your tap from? Also the middle Co2 cylinder, have you found anywhere to refill that type?
How much did you pay for the regulator to fit the cylinder from Andover Patio heaters and where did you get it from?
Sorry for all the questions. I'm looking at upgrading to cornies very soon so putting together a package for approval.
Fermenting:
Conditioning:Pale with Styrians
Drinking:Cascade Pale Ale, Summer Lightning
Posted 1 year ago by Member
The tap was from E bay.
I also have an Alumasc tap I purchased from another online home brew supply shop, and I'm looking for a third.
Finding places to refill your own cylinders is very hard. Maybe this place:
http://www.blazefireprotection.co.uk/
I spoke to them and they said they would fill cylinders.
Problem is you have to have pressure tests and the correct valve and all sorts of rubbish.
It's not really worth it when Andover patio centre is so reasonably priced.
I got my regulator from machine mart:
http://www.machinemart.co.uk/shop/product/details/ir2c-2-guage-industrial-reg
This one is for CO2 (female thread), mine is for nitrogen (male thread).
One gauge reads bottle pressure the other pressure in the keg. They sell single gauge regulators, but for the extra few pounds I think a double gauge regulator is well worth it.
Machine mart often has VAT free days. Once every 3 or 4 months I think, but you have to be on their mailing list.
The problem with these regulators is they don't read in PSI on the second gauge, but litres per minute.
They are meant for welding where you want a flow rate not a pressure.
I replaced the flow gauge with a 60 psi pressure gauge from E bay, which was about £8.
(1/8" BSP FYI)
Posted 1 year ago by Admin
Thanks Varnish. Looks like the Machine mart/andover heaters is the way forward then.
Fermenting:
Conditioning:Pale with Styrians
Drinking:Cascade Pale Ale, Summer Lightning
Posted 1 year ago by Admin
Varnish - did you realise that South West Welding supplies (in Andover) do regulators for £40 + VAT suitable for the Co2 gas cylinders from Andover Heaters?
They have twin gauge's measuring in Bar/PSI on both.
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Conditioning:Pale with Styrians
Drinking:Cascade Pale Ale, Summer Lightning
Posted 1 year ago by Member
I didn't even know there was a welding supply store in Andover!
Tried their website, but google and my anti virus say it's been hacked.
Posted 1 year ago by Admin
It wasn't me....
Chap at Andover Heaters told me about them. I called them up, very friendly and helpful.
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Conditioning:Pale with Styrians
Drinking:Cascade Pale Ale, Summer Lightning
Posted 1 year ago by Member
hi guys,
i know this is an oldish post but i am thinking of getting one of these?
would this suffice as a regulator it says pub trade uses them.
also will this make my lager fiz like it does in a pub?
Posted 1 year ago by Member
oops forgot the link
href=http://www.diywelding.co.uk/product_details.asp?d=1&c=61&p={2C616DF8-939B-416E-978D-12988BE7B5DA}
Posted 1 year ago by Admin
Looks okay to me. Just check that it reads the pressure on both gauges in PSI not bar or flow rate.
Yes you will be able to adjust the carbonation level to get fizzy lager.
Fermenting:
Conditioning:Pale with Styrians
Drinking:Cascade Pale Ale, Summer Lightning
Posted 1 year ago by Member
Thanks Greg fast answer as usual
Posted 1 year ago by Member
Just found a site using soda stream as the co2 supply is this a good option or will it run out too quick.
my eventual plan is to get two on the go in a cooler of sorts, space permitting.
Posted 1 year ago by Admin
You can use soda stream type but it will be more expensive in the long run. If you get a proper regulator and large co2 supply you can split the co2 and run multiple kegs from the same gas setup. You will have to pressure them the same unless you get a gas management board though.
Fermenting:
Conditioning:Pale with Styrians
Drinking:Cascade Pale Ale, Summer Lightning
Posted 1 year ago by Member
thanks Greg ill start to invest.
Posted 1 year ago by Member
Hi Varnish,
Great post on cornelius kegs. I'm currently building a cornie system with 2 taps - the only difference with mine is they use the pinlock type disconnects and they don't have a bleed valve. Initially it will be running off CO2 only but in the short future I would like to have one tap using 70/30 N2/CO2 (beergas) with a stout type faucet for that creamy Guinness style mouth feel. Where did you source your beergas bottle from and where do you get it filled? I am having a lot of difficulty finding somewhere that does it in small enough bottles for the home brewer...
Thanks in advance,
Ian
Posted 1 year ago by Admin
Ian, try Air Liquide (click here), they do a good range of Co2 and Nitrogen mixes and should have a supplier not too far from you.
I get mine from Andover Patio supplies and they cost about £15 with no rental or deposit.
Regards
Greg.
Fermenting:
Conditioning:Pale with Styrians
Drinking:Cascade Pale Ale, Summer Lightning
Posted 1 year ago by Member
I use Andover Patio Supplies too.
Beer gas is about £17 for a 3 foot cylinder. From there at least.
Places like Air liquid and BOC have hidden extras in their pricing like transport charges, environmental charges, filling charges, bottle rental, etc.
A bottle of CO2/Argon (welding gas) from Air liquid used to cost me ~£70.
It wouldn't hurt to do a little homework before you sign any contracts with the big gas cylinder companies.
Posted 1 year ago by Member
I had a nightmare looking for CO2, so many companies wouldnt touch me with a barge pole due to health & safety reasons, then the ones who did were trying to stiff me from £50 up.
Finaly found a place on my doorstep in south wales & even knew the owner....go figure! Payed £12.99 (with a bit of discount) for a large CO2 tank without any rentals etc.
Posted 1 year ago by Member
Thanks for the info gents...
Gazz, I bought this kit from the US site Keg Cowboy which came with 2 cornie kegs. When it arrived I took the cylinder to a fire extinguisher company Forth Fire Protection in Edinburgh who filled it for £8 for me.
I'm never satisfied though and I want to get a beergas (n2co2 70/30) system too and found this guy on ebay who stocks all the stuff I need. I'm really looking forward to trying some of my homebrews on beergas.
Varnish, I have some more questions
Have you tried any of the extract recipes on this site with your beergas? What temperature are you serving your beergas beers? How long is the line from your cornie to the tap? What volume did you pre-carbonate your beers with C02 before pumping them with beergas?
Again, thanks for the info!
Edited to underline the links...
Posted 1 year ago by Member
Ummm, I errr...yeah but, ummmm.....
Mother of god look at that!! *Runs*
I honestly couldn't tell you.
I use more of a trial and error method.
Posted 1 year ago by Member
No probs mate... When I get mine set up I'll write up a how-to
Cheers
Posted 1 year ago by Moderator
I got 2 cornies a'coming so it would be great to see a how to.
I did do some research about pre carbonation. 12psi for a ale and 20-25psi for a lager, leave in the cold for 2 days to absorb co2 and then purge and set psi from 2-5psi to serve.
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Posted 1 year ago by Member
Hey Nath... You're dead right for co2 pushed beers. With beergas, you need to push at a much higher pressure (25 psi at the gas supply) to force the beer through the restrictor plate in the tap. This is what creates the tiny bubbles that give the beer the surge and smooth mouthfeel. The problem though is the pressure needs to drop before it gets to the tap or it will just be beer foam. That's the reason for a long beerline run from the cornie to the tap which drops the pressure to something closer to serving pressure (5 psi)...
You can use these higher pressures with beergas because the CO2 content is quite low and therefore will not overgas the beer - nitrogen is not as soluble in water as carbon dioxide.
So basically, the surge and creamy mouthfeel is still co2 but the bubbles are much smaller because the higher pressure forces the beer through the restrictor plate, knocking the co2 out of solution and forming tiny bubbles.
The other point is that the dissolved nitrogen in the beer is not in as much of a rush to get out of the beer as carbon dioxide is so does not form bubbles that rush up to the surface of the beer. Air is made up of about 78% nitrogen, 21% oxygen and less than 0.5% carbon dioxide. That's why the co2 is in a rush to get out to it's buddies. The nitrogen's quite happy in solution... Incidentally, that's another reason why hangovers feel worse if you've been drinking beergas beers all night - nitrogen makes you feel tired and worn out, divers using air and not nitrox have more residual nitrogen in their systems which makes them feel more tired than divers that have been diving with a mix that contains less nitrogen. Drinking beergas beers increase the amount of nitrogen you would normally absorb, making your hangover feel worse. Still tasty though.
I think.
Posted 1 year ago by Member
Having recently got my corny set up I have read so many different ideas on the whole CO2 pressure issue.
One I like is that if you were to decrease your PSI from 25 to 5 to serve 1 - you waste alot of gas. 2 - While your beer has been charged to say the 25psi then you decrease your corney to 5psi then surley your beer will lose its gas to equal the pressure of the tank that has been previoulsy charged to 25psi, hence making your beer flat/flater!
I honestly believe to find out what works best and suits you. I currently have an 8 meter length of 8mm tube connected to my tap that is mounted on the corney. Charged @25psi for 10 days now sitting @15psi until its all gone. I was so surprised to see the quality of the pint!
Good luck
Posted 1 year ago by Member
Sounds good... Is that a lager or ale?
Posted 1 year ago by Member
Sounds good... Is that a lager or ale?
[quote]
Ale
I have an IPA in there at the mo, my 1st AG and im so impressed with the result. Because I dont having any chilling facilities I charge @25psi because of the temp on my ale which was around 18-20c. The lower the temp the less PSI needed. Found a chart somewhere online giving all temp & pressure settings.
Posted 1 year ago by Member
Hi Varnish,
I'm just setting up my kegging system. I've got 2 pin-lock cornies, a 5kg CO2 cylinder and a welding regulator which is exactly the same as the one in your photo on post number 3 (with 2 gauges). I replaced the "low" gauge with a 0-60 PSI gauge as the original reads in liters per minute.
assuming that the regulator is the same, could you please explain how i should use it because it's doesn't seem to work like the standard regulators people (Americans?) are using for kegging.
another question: has anyone used one of these?:
Posted 1 year ago by Admin
Hi Shibolet, you should just connect up to the keg with the gas in and open up the gas/regulator until you get to the required PSI?
Those portable things just connect to the gas in, you then inject some gas with the trigger until you reach the required pressure.
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Conditioning:Pale with Styrians
Drinking:Cascade Pale Ale, Summer Lightning
Posted 1 year ago by Member
Thanks for this excellent description of how a corny functions.
I recently got one and anm still expoloring options how its best for me to use it.
Still mulling over the vent release valve. I can easily see how it can be used manually to purge air from the system. Ok, so the container will stand 100psi, but does any-one have any more info on the devices's function as a pressure release valve, please?
ie the internal pressure to push the small head on the device against the spring must be huge ! Has any-one any idea what pressure the relief is set at? Has anyone actually seen one venting automatically?
Thanks
Posted 1 year ago by Admin
Hi Chas, I don't understand why would you want to see it in action?
Fermenting:
Conditioning:Pale with Styrians
Drinking:Cascade Pale Ale, Summer Lightning
Posted 1 year ago by Member
Hi Greg,
I wouldn't particularly want to see it in action. I am only after reassurance that it really is a safety device, and asking for others experience in this.Its construction is different to the usual rubber bands.
I kegged some Wherry at the weekend, which is still fermenting slowly. I still have to sort out which gas system to use. Meantime the lid has sealed with the fermentation pressure, which I hoped would push out most of the brew.
Posted 1 year ago by Admin
Okay, see what you mean but they would only kick in at over 100psi and that's a hell of a lot of pressure. Not sure you'll get any where near that even if your beer is still fermenting so I wouldn't be concerned. You could always manually vent it a bit if you are worried.
Fermenting:
Conditioning:Pale with Styrians
Drinking:Cascade Pale Ale, Summer Lightning
Posted 1 year ago by Member
Thanks again, Greg.
Posted 1 year ago by Member
hi
i see no option for PM on this forum so i'm posting here again,
Varnish, i realy need help understanding how to use my "welding regulator".
Could you drop me a line?
shibolet.brewery@gmail.com
Thanks
Posted 1 year ago by Member
Hi Gazz,
Where abouts in South Wales do you get your CO2 cylinder and refills from?
I am too thinking about moving from king keg to cornelius keg.
Many thanks,
Darren
Posted 1 year ago by Member
Im fairly new to home brewing (4 months ago) and started off with just a basic kit and keg. I was going to buy a second keg so I could have a lager and an ale on the go at the same time. I nearly bought a king keg the other week when I happened to come across the cornelious keg system. Having looked into it a bit more I think having a cornelious keg would proberly be a better option in the long run. What do you guys think? Or am I trying to run before I can walk?
I see there are two types of kegs available. A pin valve and an S30 valve which one is more widely used?
My may concern is the gasing. From what I understand I will need to buy a co2 cylinder, and regulator. What size cylinder would you recommend and how long would a 1 kg cylinder last, connected to just one keg?
Sorry for all the questions but I don't want to start paying out £££'s each month for refills when I can opt for the king keg at £ 45. However I do realise that the initial set up cost will be more.
Thanks for any help and advice.
Richard.
Fermenting : Spitfire Clone
Conditioning : Woodfordes Nelsons Revenge
Planning : Speckled Hen Clone
Posted 1 year ago by Moderator
Hi Rich,
If you want to do "proper" fizzy type lager then a corny keg is a must. The standard and king kegs dont hold enough pressure to carbonate the beer like a lager, where as cornys can. I would not saying your running before you walk as a lot of brewers start with a barrel, then get 40 bottles, then another barrel then a better built barrel then go and get a corny keg and so on and so on!
I started with 1 budget, then 2, then came a king keg, then 90+ bottle. Now I have 3 corny kegs and 40 bottles and if Im honest I wish I bought the cornys to start with!
The pin valve is standard on all cornys, that lets you release pressure. I wouldnt go for the s30 type as its had to tell how much its all regulated at.
I get my co2 canister from Andover and it costs about £15, cant remember the size, I think its 10-13kg. This lasts my 3 cornys ages. Im on the same bottle from when I started with cornys and that was about a year ago and it still has plenty left.
A regulator will set you back £30 but if (heaven forbid) you ever decide to sell cornys dont really seem to loose any value what so ever so its a good investment. Also 1 co2 canister can run say 4 cornys if you want -
look here for my diy beer fridge.
http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/kegregator-build-cornies-n-all and a piccy here:-
It rocks!
So lots of positives, the only negative is the set up cost.
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Conditionin' - Thwaits Nutty Black
Plannin' - A user upper!
Posted 1 year ago by Member
Thanks Nath for your help and advice.
Now to spread the cost, would it be possible to make my brew this month and corny keg it without the gas ? Or do you need the co2 to extract the remaining oxygen in keg to store ale.
Fermenting : Spitfire Clone
Conditioning : Woodfordes Nelsons Revenge
Planning : Speckled Hen Clone
Posted 1 year ago by Moderator
I suppose you could, and you could ad a small amount of sugar to produce a bit of c02 to make sure you can purge the air from the keg. The first lot of pints you pull will have yeasty cloudyness in them as you added the sugar, but it would ensure minimal oxidation.
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Posted 1 year ago by Member
Best place to buy a corny from? Can you buy new or are they always reconditioned?
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Posted 1 year ago by Moderator
Always re-conditioned, and I got 2 of mine from ebay at a good price as they were a bit more tatty than normal and the other 2 have come from Greg (here!). Have a look round the net though as you never know some poor diluded bloke may have freecycled some etc etc.
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Posted 11 months ago by Member
Hey all I'm knew to EVERYTHING - my 1st 'project' (Buddy Lager Starter Kit) started its journey 2 days ago. I've been reading with great interest about Cornelius Kegs - I'm convinced it's the way to go.
Rich22 - I struggled to find a place that sells Cornelius kegs, it seems with Ebay it's just luck - but I came across this website http://www.homebrewcentre.co.uk/product.asp?pID=1556&cID=253
This is where I plan to buy my Corney at the end of the month.
I have a question appologies if it's in the wrong section, to force Carbonate using a Corney, do I need straight Co2 or does it need to be Co2/No2 mixture? I read alot of people talking about No2 mixtures but can't find any information on what the difference is. Is the mixture purely for dispensing, and will I be ok just using Co2 for carbonating and then dispensing my beverage once I'm set up?
Thanks in advance for any/all replies.
Posted 11 months ago by Moderator
Hey there!
You can use co2 or a mix if you want. I just use co2 for pressurising and dispensing its cheap, comes in a big bottle and does the job. Nitrogen will form smaller bubbles giving you better head (ahem) but will also induse a worse hangover if you have a lot!
If your getting the corny delivered you can buy it here cheaper - http://www.brewuk.co.uk/store/cornelius-keg-reconditioned.html
Ta,
Nath
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Posted 11 months ago by Member
Thanks for the quick reply fella, didn't realise BrewUk had cornys - I'll be getting mine from here in that case
I'm not a big fan of hangovers so the Co2 will in the long run show some mercy on my guinea pigs.
Is there anything I can read read up on how to achieve stronger percentages etc? I don't understand if this part is down to the hops you buy of the fermentation process itself.
Posted 11 months ago by Moderator
It depends on the amount of dissolved sugar in the wort and the amount of sugar the yeast converts to alcohol. (in simple terms - but it goes a lot deeper than that!)
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Conditionin' - Thwaits Nutty Black
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Posted 10 months ago by Member
When adding Co2 to a Corny to get the initial carbonation what is a good amount to add? And for how long ?
Would 2 bar/29.0 psi be about right and leave the corny pressured at this level for 1 day ?
I'm a bit confused as to why my Co2 cylinder reads as nearly empty on the regulator gauge as I haven't used it yet !?
Fermenting : Spitfire Clone
Conditioning : Woodfordes Nelsons Revenge
Planning : Speckled Hen Clone
Posted 10 months ago by Moderator
Everyone has their own way to be honest. It depends on temperature, style of beer, length of time at desired pressure etc etc. For my ales I find 15psi for 3 days (with a little shake 2-3 times a day) at 13c is enough for me. I suppose the best way would be to start with 10psi for 2 days, taste it and if its not right add a few more psi and keep on going until you find the best carbonation for you.
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Posted 10 months ago by Member
Thanks Nath for your reply.
I've got a Wherry, kegged it on Feb 11th. After carbonating for a couple of days, do I need to release the excess pressure and then just add enough pressure for serving about 2 psi ?
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Conditioning : Woodfordes Nelsons Revenge
Planning : Speckled Hen Clone
Posted 10 months ago by Moderator
I set mine to about 3-4psi after carbonation then just pour a few pints off instead of releasing the pressure! That way it goes to serving pressure and you get rewarded!
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Posted 9 months ago by Member
Most of these systems use "John Guest" connectors. When I got my corny I was not familiar with these.
Here is a handy, if American video on utube describing how to use them.
Obvious when you know how !!!
Posted 9 months ago by Member
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQ6U_g8H180&NR=1
Posted 9 months ago by Moderator
If there was a 23 litre Corny would peeps buy it?.
Fermenting: Wheat beer
Maturing/Conditioning:
Drinking: Pseudo-Lager, Oatmeal stout & Shop bought stuff
Posted 9 months ago by Moderator
23 litres, like this...
Fermenting: Wheat beer
Maturing/Conditioning:
Drinking: Pseudo-Lager, Oatmeal stout & Shop bought stuff
Posted 9 months ago by Moderator
Ugnnnnhhhhhhh.
Tissue time.
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Posted 9 months ago by Moderator
Fermenting: Wheat beer
Maturing/Conditioning:
Drinking: Pseudo-Lager, Oatmeal stout & Shop bought stuff
Posted 8 months ago by Member
Is that really a 23ltr cornie do you own one hamish?
Right havent even bottled a beer yet but am considering cornys.
Question though im keen to buy http://www.brewuk.co.uk/store/cornelius-keg-starter-set.html
From my understanding thats regulator cornys and lines all ready just gas.But reading back in this post says some gas bottles have differnet fittings.
So how do i make sure i get one that will fit this setup do i need to specify something to place that sells gas thread etc ?
Fermenting:
Conditioning: Elderflower wine,Dandelion wine,Ribena wine,summer ale
Drinking: Turbo Cider/summer ale/way to amarillo/funked up wherry
Posted 8 months ago by Moderator
Yes it really is a 23 litre one, I'm thinking about importing a container load of them but I'm not sure how well they would sell as they would be much more expensive than the standard ones.
Fermenting: Wheat beer
Maturing/Conditioning:
Drinking: Pseudo-Lager, Oatmeal stout & Shop bought stuff
Posted 8 months ago by Member
The threads (fittings) on all Carbon dioxide cylinders are the same everywhere in Europe.
If you have a co2 regulator it will fit every co2 gas cylinder from anywhere you can get one.
CO2 will be the gas you need for 99.9% of beers
If you want to use different gas, such as nitrogen/carbon dioxide mix (aka Beer gas) you need a different style regulator.
But there is no need to use "beer gas" unless you want to pour a beer with a Guinness style creamy head.
You also need a special tap to pour Guinness style pints.
Posted 8 months ago by Moderator
Or unless you want a sore head too.
Fermenting: Wheat beer
Maturing/Conditioning:
Drinking: Pseudo-Lager, Oatmeal stout & Shop bought stuff
Posted 8 months ago by Member
Lol at the quote varnish.Never thoaght i would consider them but im liking the idea.Just getting the gas to solve now i see machine mart does bottles but they rather small 600g which im guessing wont last long.
One other thing whats the safety around storing the gas bottles is there any regulation etc (just to keep the mrs happy)
And hamish maybe a forum group buy on that container im sure quite a few would be intrested in them suprised no one is already selling them in the uk.
Fermenting:
Conditioning: Elderflower wine,Dandelion wine,Ribena wine,summer ale
Drinking: Turbo Cider/summer ale/way to amarillo/funked up wherry
Posted 8 months ago by Member
Those machine mart mini bottles are good for hobby welders.
However, they do not have the same thread size/type/pitch as regular co2 bottles, and will not fit a standard co2 regulator.
You could run them with the small regulator they are designed to be used with, and use john guest fittings to step up the line size to the keg.
No regulations about keeping them at your own home as far as I'm aware.
They have a pressure blow off valve. If the pressure become too high, a disc ruptures and all the gas is vented to atmosphere.
Where abouts are you?
Posted 8 months ago by Member
Im west london tw13
Fermenting:
Conditioning: Elderflower wine,Dandelion wine,Ribena wine,summer ale
Drinking: Turbo Cider/summer ale/way to amarillo/funked up wherry
Posted 8 months ago by Moderator
It would be several hundred units.
Fermenting: Wheat beer
Maturing/Conditioning:
Drinking: Pseudo-Lager, Oatmeal stout & Shop bought stuff
Posted 8 months ago by Member
Best get on dragons den then.
I'd watch it.
Posted 8 months ago by Moderator
I haven't even persuaded myself its a good idea yet. They would be more than twice the price of the standard corny, so I'm not sure how well they would sell.
Would you buy one?.
Fermenting: Wheat beer
Maturing/Conditioning:
Drinking: Pseudo-Lager, Oatmeal stout & Shop bought stuff
Posted 8 months ago by Member
At that price, no.
Not if you could get two normal ones and still have change for the same price.
Posted 8 months ago by Member
How tall is a corny keg with fittings and hoses connected im on amajor hunt for a 2nd fridge now.
Fermenting:
Conditioning: Elderflower wine,Dandelion wine,Ribena wine,summer ale
Drinking: Turbo Cider/summer ale/way to amarillo/funked up wherry
Posted 8 months ago by Moderator
Minimum I would have is 27 inches (68cm). That would allow for tubes and wotnot
Conditionin' - LEB Pale
Conditionin' - Thwaits Nutty Black
Plannin' - A user upper!
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