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Cloudy beer - hot/cold breaks???
Hi all,
Well Im ok with my ag process now and I dont get heart fluctuations anymore but there is one thing I get with my beer:-
I have no wort chiller and I chill naturally before pitching yeast. By the time its ready to drink it seems to make my beer crystal clear at room temp (or when a beer has been chilled a little, 15-20mins in a fridge) but if its cooled to fridge temp its cloudy. Is this due to the fact I dont have a wort chiller of sorts?
I hear about cold and warm breaks and protiens but I am yet to understand it fully.
On the plus side my other ag which is barreled and have had for 5 weeks now is crystal clear so maybe its a problem which does die down but takes longer due to my non existant chilling process.
Conditionin'/Drinkin' - OPA Pale
Conditionin' - LEB Pale
Conditionin' - Thwaits Nutty Black
Plannin' - A user upper!
Conditionin' - LEB Pale
Conditionin' - Thwaits Nutty Black
Plannin' - A user upper!
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Posted 2 years ago by Member
I'm not really sure what causes chill haze.
I know it's proteins that are not soluble at lower temperatures, but I don't know what causes them to be present.
I have an intercooler I use on all my brews to chill to about 20*ish before pitching.
At the moment I have two AG's I'm drinking.
A lager and bitter. The lager is perfect at cold temperatures and is star bright.
The bitter is cloudy at colder temps. but clears at room temperature.
Both beers followed the same brewing procedure (i.e boil time).
The only difference is the lager had 8 weeks of cold storage before I tapped it.
SO....I don't know. The lager may have had chill haze, which setted out over the lagering period.
It's a mystery to me too. Although I don't really find it a problem, I would like all my bears to be star bright.
Posted 2 years ago by Moderator
Cheers Varnish, im with you - dont mind drinking my hazyish beer but it would be nice to be crystal for those summer bbq moments with mates.
Conditionin' - LEB Pale
Conditionin' - Thwaits Nutty Black
Plannin' - A user upper!
Posted 2 years ago by Member
Hey Nath
I'm drinking an IPA at the moment which has the same trouble and I do have a wort chiller!
No idea what causes this (as Varnish has said) but when I take a bottle from storage (its cold in the shed), rather than the kitchen cabinet), its cloudy. Not a problem though - taste-wise it's probably the best AG I've ever done - except, I used just Bramling Cross and while it has wonderful fruit overtones, it is a little 'sweet'. Greg mentioned this about an earlier brew he did. If I use these hops again (if...? Who am I kidding.., when!), I'll use a storming high alpha hop up front!
Sorry - drifting off the point again!
Edit: It may have something to do with an afternoon of drinking a few 'off the shelf' but an observation: If the beer is 'hazy' when poured, it makes little difference if you pick up a little sediment from the bottom .. therefore getting more out of the bottle :o)
(with grateful thanks to the Fabulous Furry Freak Brothers and slightly adapted)
Posted 2 years ago by Admin
There is a product called polyclar that I have read on other forums removes Chill haze really well. Its a brupaks product so I'll get some in if any wants to try it.
People seem to use in conjunction with Gelantine, added a couple of days after in the secondary. I know there is split views on finnings but I've started using gelantine since the great success on my Xmas beer.
Tony - I agree with regard to the bramlings. Nice flavour but a little overpowering in volume.
Fermenting:
Conditioning:Pale with Styrians
Drinking:Cascade Pale Ale, Summer Lightning
Posted 1 year ago by Admin
Afternoon all, saw a link to this on another forum and thought it would be useful as we were talking about the very thing.
Link
Has a good explanation of what causes chill haze and how to combat it.
Fermenting:
Conditioning:Pale with Styrians
Drinking:Cascade Pale Ale, Summer Lightning
Posted 1 year ago by Moderator
Nice read, thanks greg. Looks like a wort chiller of sorts for my birthday then!
Conditionin' - LEB Pale
Conditionin' - Thwaits Nutty Black
Plannin' - A user upper!
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