90 min boil or 60 min boil ???

10 months ago | outlaw (Member)

Hi guys , do you have have to boil for 90 ?? Won't a 60 min boil do ? This is for all grain ,brew days seem to take forever with your 90 min mash time then your 90 min boil time after that , is 90 necessary ? Please help I want to try and speed things up alittle

Drinkin--buxton spa
plannin--galaxy pale
plannin--nelson bobek pale
fermentin--centennial pale 3.8%

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Hamish:

Posted 10 months ago by Moderator

We were just talking about this the other day.

60 minutes is the bare minimum I would suggest, provided its a vigorous boil.

http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/60-minutes-boil-or-90-minute-boil

What are you brewing?.

Planning: Wheat beer fermented with Schneider Weisse yeast, a Stout, lots of hoppy pale ales
Fermenting: Marynka pseudo-lager
Maturing/Conditioning:
Drinking: Wheat beer, ESB, Vienna lager & shop bought stuff

outlaw:

Posted 10 months ago by Member

hi there hamish ,
i am going to brew exmoor gold next or try and get close to it ,one of my favorite ales down the pub .so you say a 60 min boil will be ok ,i was also thinking that isnt a 90 min boil a bit long anyway for the boiler to be on ? also can i reduce mash time aswell hamish to say 60-70 mins or is 90 standard ?
thank hamish

Drinkin--buxton spa
plannin--galaxy pale
plannin--nelson bobek pale
fermentin--centennial pale 3.8%

Nath:

Posted 10 months ago by Moderator

I know a few people who boil for 60mins with no probs what so ever. As long as its a vigorus boil the hot break will happen and as long as its cooled nice and fast a cold break will happen, you just use moer hops. As for the mash the same goes really. You could leave it overnight or do a 60min mash. I do a 60 or 90 depending on how I think the days doing.

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Hamish:

Posted 10 months ago by Moderator

I haven't tried an overnight mash, doesn't it result in a very dry beer?.

If you want to shorten the mash time you could test the starch-end-point after an hour but its not something I do, standard 90 minutes for me.

So which yeast will you be using?.

saracen:

Posted 10 months ago by Moderator

The more brewery websites I read on the Net, the more I wonder about the mash times and temperature. We all accept that certain things happen at different temperatures and different times, but the small brewers don't seem to care too much. I read one a few weeks back and I can't remember who it was, which said "We mash the grain by hand, stirring all the time at a constant 75°c for an hour. Hard work!!" or something very similar.

While I was looking for the brewery the above quote(?) came from, I found this. Very interesting reading.

http://www.quaffale.org.uk/

If you're not living on the edge..... you're taking up too much space!!

Planning: - To get some more brews on now the weather's a bit cooler
Fermenting: - Ginger Beer experiment
Conditioning: - A normal bitter with Styrians
Drinking: - All of it!!

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James-Dylan:

Posted 10 months ago by Member

Yep.. I visited one of the breweries in norfolk a while back and I'm pretty sure they told me they only mashed for 45 mins... They also used S-04 for all their beers. I think that's what I love about brewing.. You can embrace the randomness or follow the very clinical approach. Seems either way will give you good beer.

Tony:

Posted 10 months ago by Member

I always do an overnight mash - set it going at around 9.30 and then get up at 5.30 to drain - with a timer on the HLT so that sparge water is already up to temp. I can start at 5.30 and be finished with everything cleaned up and yeast pitched by around 8am. Missus doesn't give me earache any more. I always do a 60 min boil too.

I read an article a few months back about whiteshield (I think) .... their mash was an overnighter.

Has anyone ever done two identical brews ... hold on, I think I feel a new thread coming on....

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Anonymous:

Posted 10 months ago by

Silly question Nath, if you cool "nice and fast" how do you steep your hops under those restrictions?

outlaw:

Posted 10 months ago by Member

Everybody has different and great ideas on here ha ha , think I will stick to 60 min boils then ,save the boiler element and leccy bill too cheers everyone :-)

Drinkin--buxton spa
plannin--galaxy pale
plannin--nelson bobek pale
fermentin--centennial pale 3.8%

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