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Brew UK Forum » Tag: Pale Ale - Recent Posts http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Brew UK Forum » Tag: Pale Ale - Recent Posts en Sun, 05 Feb 2012 00:22:40 +0000 Nath on "Brewing at end of the month..." http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/brewing-at-end-of-the-month#post-19942 Mon, 12 Sep 2011 19:55:53 +0000 Nath 19942@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Ohhhhh yeah baby! Cascade is a great hop, and your recent success reminds me that I must make a citrusy pale. Methinks cascade is the way to go (especially now I can grab some British Cascade from greg!) hammy1801 on "Brewing at end of the month..." http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/brewing-at-end-of-the-month#post-19936 Mon, 12 Sep 2011 19:01:49 +0000 hammy1801 19936@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Tasting time yesterday, brew fermented for 12 days and conditioned for 8 days and i couldn't take the wait any more. Had a bottle last night and the taste blew me away, nice and fresh with fruity undertones leaving a nice clean taste in the mouth. Needless to say that a couple more "test bottles" followed. Single hop pale ales all the way from now on. <img src="http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_biggrin.gif" title=":D" class="bb_smilies" /> :D hammy1801 on "Brewing at end of the month..." http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/brewing-at-end-of-the-month#post-19241 Thu, 25 Aug 2011 22:26:43 +0000 hammy1801 19241@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Looked at your recipe Nath, looks good mate!! Mines is bubbling away nicely, krausen was huge, not far off the top of the fermenter was wondering if this is a result of using a KG of DME wheat? Nath on "Brewing at end of the month..." http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/brewing-at-end-of-the-month#post-19160 Sun, 21 Aug 2011 21:17:23 +0000 Nath 19160@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Nice. Your my brewday brother! Woo! Glad yours went well hammy1801 on "Brewing at end of the month..." http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/brewing-at-end-of-the-month#post-19157 Sun, 21 Aug 2011 20:38:15 +0000 hammy1801 19157@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Brew day today, went for Hamish's idea with the hop schedule and used the whole pack. These hops smell amazing, cant wait till this is ready. <img src="http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_biggrin.gif" title=":D" class="bb_smilies" /> Nath on "Brewing at end of the month..." http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/brewing-at-end-of-the-month#post-18568 Thu, 04 Aug 2011 21:37:56 +0000 Nath 18568@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Plus you use the whole packet, though you may like to keep 1/2 packs here and there you always...ALWAYS end up with like, 15 1/2 packs of hops floating around! hammy1801 on "Brewing at end of the month..." http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/brewing-at-end-of-the-month#post-18563 Thu, 04 Aug 2011 20:08:28 +0000 hammy1801 18563@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Cheers guys that'll be the hop schedule increased then <img src="http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_lol.gif" title=":lol:" class="bb_smilies" /> Nath on "Brewing at end of the month..." http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/brewing-at-end-of-the-month#post-18550 Thu, 04 Aug 2011 13:38:46 +0000 Nath 18550@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Steeped hops will give your beer that amazing aroma, so its the more the merrier in most cases! (Especially a nice pale ale) Greg on "Brewing at end of the month..." http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/brewing-at-end-of-the-month#post-18549 Thu, 04 Aug 2011 09:12:16 +0000 Greg 18549@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ I agree with Hamish, Cascade are a lovely hop but you want at least 50g for aroma. Alternatively why not dry hop with some later on. hammy1801 on "Brewing at end of the month..." http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/brewing-at-end-of-the-month#post-18544 Wed, 03 Aug 2011 21:16:06 +0000 hammy1801 18544@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Cheers Hamish Why would you raise the amount of steeped hops?? Hamish on "Brewing at end of the month..." http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/brewing-at-end-of-the-month#post-18542 Wed, 03 Aug 2011 20:11:11 +0000 Hamish 18542@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Looks good, if it was mine I would change the hop schedule... Cascade hops (7.6%) 30gm 60 min Cascade hops (7.6%) 20gm 10 min Cascade hops (7.6%) 50gm steeped for 30 min <img src="http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_eek.gif" title="8O" class="bb_smilies" /> hammy1801 on "Brewing at end of the month..." http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/brewing-at-end-of-the-month#post-18541 Wed, 03 Aug 2011 19:53:46 +0000 hammy1801 18541@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Hi all Brewing at the end of the month (holiday to go on or would be brewing this weekend) and was considering doing a single hop ale like the brilliant Amarillo IPA. Recipe is going to be: Cascading Lights Pale Ale.[u] DME Light - 2kg DME Wheat - 1kg Cascade hops (7.6%) 30gm 90 min Cascade hops (7.6%) 20gm 15 min Cascade hops (7.6%) 10gm Flame out, steeped for 30 min Beer engine states this should give an ABV of 4.4% with an EBU of 51. Wondering if this is too much hops, what do you think?? Looking forward as always to any pointers, questions or queries. Cheers Hammy Tony on "Orangey Pale Ale" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/orangey-pale-ale#post-14857 Wed, 04 May 2011 14:21:42 +0000 Tony 14857@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Yes... I did make an orange beer and it didn't end well ... but that was down to a duff yeast, the actual orange part came out well. I've been meaning to give it another go, sounds like a plan. Copy the procedure from the recipe that varnish posted above. Keep me informed, love to know how it comes out! Greg on "Orangey Pale Ale" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/orangey-pale-ale#post-14855 Wed, 04 May 2011 07:51:37 +0000 Greg 14855@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ I would second Hamish, probably only 5 - 7.5% crystal maximum but I would probably give crystal a miss and go 100% Maris Otter. I would personally get the orange/citrus flavour from hops as orange peel gives quite a subtle taste normally for very low hopped wheat beers and you'll probably find those citrus hops dominate the flavour anyhow. How about trying Simcoe hops (gives a nice passion fruit flavour) or maybe Summit? Hamish on "Orangey Pale Ale" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/orangey-pale-ale#post-14850 Tue, 03 May 2011 20:32:35 +0000 Hamish 14850@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ You could add this stuff to the boil... <a href="http://www.brewuk.co.uk/store/ingredients/ingredientsadditives/orange-peel.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.brewuk.co.uk/store/ingredients/ingredientsadditives/orange-peel.html</a> Pale malt needs to be the majority with a maximum of 20% crystal but personally I think 10% is far too much. Varnish on "Orangey Pale Ale" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/orangey-pale-ale#post-14848 Tue, 03 May 2011 18:02:43 +0000 Varnish 14848@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Tony made an orange flavoured beer, but if I remember correctly it didn't end well. <a href="http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/christmas-orange" rel="nofollow">http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/christmas-orange</a> jonnycope on "Orangey Pale Ale" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/orangey-pale-ale#post-14847 Tue, 03 May 2011 18:00:52 +0000 jonnycope 14847@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Maybe for the malts 1kg Belgian pale malt and 2kg crystal malt? jonnycope on "Orangey Pale Ale" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/orangey-pale-ale#post-14846 Tue, 03 May 2011 17:40:15 +0000 jonnycope 14846@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Hey, I was thinking about making an orangey Pale ale and I was wondering if anyone can help me with my idea. I was thing 1) fill the brewing bucket up nearly full with water and put either a) orange peel or b) orange slices and let them infuse over night. 2) boil the malt (don't know which ones to use yet) adding the hops for these times Pacifica for 60 minutes, Progress for 30 minutes and Ahtanum for 30-15 minutes (don't know the amounts yet) 3) Add this to the water, let it cool then add the yeast and leave until ready. What do you think? Anyone got any ideas? Tony on "AG#9 Angry Armadillo" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/ag9-angry-armadillo#post-9327 Sat, 27 Nov 2010 09:55:38 +0000 Tony 9327@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ heh heh ... excellent! Greg on "AG#9 Angry Armadillo" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/ag9-angry-armadillo#post-9320 Sat, 27 Nov 2010 09:04:43 +0000 Greg 9320@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Would it clear that nagging wife problem. If of course I had one. Which I don't. Sorry love, I was only joking <img src="http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_lol.gif" title=":lol:" class="bb_smilies" /> Bazza on "AG#9 Angry Armadillo" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/ag9-angry-armadillo#post-9318 Sat, 27 Nov 2010 00:01:34 +0000 Bazza 9318@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ ...wonder would it cure that nagging liver problem. Nath on "AG#9 Angry Armadillo" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/ag9-angry-armadillo#post-9316 Fri, 26 Nov 2010 23:55:16 +0000 Nath 9316@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Pfffft... I drink VWP for cleaning my teeth. and tongue and cheeks and oesophagus etc etc. Bazza on "AG#9 Angry Armadillo" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/ag9-angry-armadillo#post-9313 Fri, 26 Nov 2010 22:40:41 +0000 Bazza 9313@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ <blockquote>How did you end up accidentally swigging VWP? </blockquote> Did it for a dare. It was either that, or snog my mate's granny with tongues. Just joking. 'Swigging' was probably putting it a bit strongly. I accidentally tasted some when I was syphoning it through a tube. Forgot to take my lips away when it started flowing. Tried another bottle of the lager tonight with me fish and chips. Two sips and the taste was there strong as ever. Chucked the rest. The other 29 bottles are soon to follow. Gutted, but I reckon the wife will let me have an extra brew day very soon out of sympathy. If she doesn't, I'll just threaten to drink more steriliser <img src="http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_smile.gif" title=":)" class="bb_smilies" /> -Barry Greg on "AG#9 Angry Armadillo" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/ag9-angry-armadillo#post-9307 Fri, 26 Nov 2010 20:09:14 +0000 Greg 9307@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ <blockquote>The other night I was messing about with yeast starters and the like and accidentally took a tiny swig of WVP solution</blockquote> How did you end up accidentally swigging VWP? Bazza on "AG#9 Angry Armadillo" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/ag9-angry-armadillo#post-9301 Fri, 26 Nov 2010 14:27:50 +0000 Bazza 9301@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Well, I've been giving my lager time to see if the aftertaste mellows. It seemed to me that it had been mellowing over the past couple of weeks. It was still there, but not as in your face. Only thing is, I think I know now what the aftertaste is. The other night I was messing about with yeast starters and the like and accidentally took a tiny swig of WVP solution and the aftertaste from the lager came flooding back <img src="http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_sad.gif" title=":(" class="bb_smilies" /> I reckon I didn't properly rinse the steriliser from my priming bucket when I was bottling the lager. The WVP solution had been in the bucket for a fortnight before bottling, so I guess a few rinses with the garden hose wasn't enough. There really can't have been very much steriliser in the beer but enough to give it that taste. Bummer. Looks like I'll be freeing up 30 or so bottles sooner than I thought <img src="http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_sad.gif" title=":(" class="bb_smilies" /> -Barry Hamish on "AG#9 Angry Armadillo" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/ag9-angry-armadillo#post-9151 Mon, 22 Nov 2010 12:36:47 +0000 Hamish 9151@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ I use Carapils, it contains dextrins which are unfermentable and contrubute to head retention, its supposed to give the beer a fuller flavour too. The Germans refer to it as Carafoam. simonb_13 on "AG#9 Angry Armadillo" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/ag9-angry-armadillo#post-9150 Mon, 22 Nov 2010 12:02:37 +0000 simonb_13 9150@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ <blockquote>Carapils though, whats that like? Just for head retention or does it add colour or/and flavour also? </blockquote> Colour is 2.0 so not much. I've seen in other forums that it's used for head retention and I've not noticed any flavour characteristic from it. I use it for head retention and either it's working or the Maris Otter from Greg is doing it all on its own. I think I'll leave it out for the next one to see. Ian on "AG#9 Angry Armadillo" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/ag9-angry-armadillo#post-9148 Mon, 22 Nov 2010 11:44:17 +0000 Ian 9148@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ The Maris Otter that Greg gets from Warminster needs nothing adding to improve head retention. As long as you give enough time for 'maturing' the head is retained to the bottom of the glass. You even get little rings down the glass where some foam is retained on the glass. I find 3 to four weeks a good length of time to mature, but always have 'testers' after a week. I might take a bottle over to Greg for him to give an independant verdict on the taste etc. Nath on "AG#9 Angry Armadillo" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/ag9-angry-armadillo#post-9143 Mon, 22 Nov 2010 11:16:39 +0000 Nath 9143@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ That looks really really nice, bet its really crisp...mmmm..... already thinking of beer and its only just past 10. Borderline Alcoholism?????? Nahhh.... <img src="http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_confused.gif" title=":?" class="bb_smilies" /> Si - Ive used wheat it some beers and dont find the head retention that much different. Carapils though, whats that like? Just for head retention or does it add colour or/and flavour also? simonb_13 on "AG#9 Angry Armadillo" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/ag9-angry-armadillo#post-9134 Mon, 22 Nov 2010 09:28:08 +0000 simonb_13 9134@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Lovely clear beer Ian! I'm drinking an Amarillo extract and a Wherry at the moment (not right at the moment!). The Amarillo is way more interesting. Just Maris Otter and nothing else? What's the head retention like? I add CaraPils, wheat etc., because I thought it gives more mouthfeel and head retention so I'm interested to know what a brew is like with none of these things. Greg on "AG#9 Angry Armadillo" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/ag9-angry-armadillo#post-9131 Mon, 22 Nov 2010 08:56:14 +0000 Greg 9131@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Should be pretty easy. Just use the IMG button in the menu above and put the url of the photo. Ian on "AG#9 Angry Armadillo" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/ag9-angry-armadillo#post-9129 Mon, 22 Nov 2010 08:34:25 +0000 Ian 9129@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Sorry, pic now added. Is there an easy way to add pics from photobucket? Nath on "AG#9 Angry Armadillo" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/ag9-angry-armadillo#post-9121 Sun, 21 Nov 2010 18:05:04 +0000 Nath 9121@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Wheres the piccy then Ian? <img src="http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_confused.gif" title=":?" class="bb_smilies" /> Ian on "AG#9 Angry Armadillo" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/ag9-angry-armadillo#post-9115 Sun, 21 Nov 2010 17:06:15 +0000 Ian 9115@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ 1st attempt to add a picture. This brew has just come into its own. Best slightly chilled. Great hop flavour. <img src="http://i1235.photobucket.com/albums/ff433/Ianmartini/angryarm.jpg" /> Ian on "AG#10 Sunshine Shrew" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/ag10-sunshine-shrew#post-8621 Sun, 07 Nov 2010 23:52:27 +0000 Ian 8621@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ This is much less sweet than golden champion which I agree is a bit sickly after a few pints. I might have to drop a bottle off with Greg for an independant view. I need to pick up some supplies for a Christmas brew sometime anyway. I am planning both a fresh elderflower and peach blossom brew for the spring/summer, but a long winter stretches ahead.......something to look forward to. Bazza on "AG#9 Angry Armadillo" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/ag9-angry-armadillo#post-8614 Sun, 07 Nov 2010 17:42:18 +0000 Bazza 8614@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Thanks, Greg. I'll persevere with this one. It doesn't taste rotten or chemical-y, just not much flavour at all, giving the sediment more of a chance to show itself. Should really have used a lot more bittering hops. My usual recipe is 35 IBUs. This one was 25. -Barry Tony on "AG#10 Sunshine Shrew" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/ag10-sunshine-shrew#post-8603 Sun, 07 Nov 2010 11:53:13 +0000 Tony 8603@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ That looks lovely! And peach blossom ... what a fantastic idea! Nath on "AG#10 Sunshine Shrew" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/ag10-sunshine-shrew#post-8587 Sat, 06 Nov 2010 11:45:41 +0000 Nath 8587@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ I may have to nab this one matey! A few of my friends really like the flavour of Golden Champion. Its an easy beer to drink in the sun shine, I find it a lil bit too sickly if you have too many, but a great refresher. Ive yeat to add anything but malt n hops to my beer but Im gonna have to step up to it! Greg on "AG#10 Sunshine Shrew" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/ag10-sunshine-shrew#post-8583 Sat, 06 Nov 2010 11:39:48 +0000 Greg 8583@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Good stuff Ian, I've been thinking about something similar myself. Ian on "AG#10 Sunshine Shrew" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/ag10-sunshine-shrew#post-8580 Sat, 06 Nov 2010 10:18:12 +0000 Ian 8580@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ This is the second time I have brewed this, slightly revised this time with more aroma hops. The aim of this was to do something similar to Badger Golden Champion, flavoured with elderflower. A side by side comparison showed they were identical in colour, last time this recipe had better head retention and was more hopy and less sweet than Golden Champion. The elderflower flavour is subtle but compliments the hops This one is getting bottled today and tastes great from the sample I took yesterday to measure the FG. I plan to do a peach blossom version in the spring as I discovered that a tree in the garden I thought was a willow grew one big peach this year much to my surprise. Sunshine Shrew 2 Special/Best/Premium Bitter Type: All Grain Date: 30/10/2010 Batch Size: 20.00 L Mash 10 L @67 C 90 minutes Sparge 20 L @ 72 C Boil Size: 27.00 L Boil Time: 90 min Water treatment 0.5 campden tablet to mash and sparge water 4ml CRS for every 5 l water used teaspoon gypsum in mash 0.5 tsp in boil o.25 tsp epsom salts in mash Mash pH 5.4 Ingredients 3.65 kg Pale Malt, Maris Otter (5.9 EBC) 0.14 kg Crystal Malt 1 (105.0 EBC) 40.00 gm Fuggles [5.50 %] (90 min) 15.00 gm Challenger 2 [7.20 %] (15 min) 15.00 gm Elderflower (dried) (Boil 15.0 min) 6.00 gm Fuggles [5.50 %] (0 min) 6.00 gm Challenger 2 [7.20 %] (0 min) 5.00 gm Challenger 2 [7.20 %] @85 C 5.00 gm Fuggles [5.50 %] (0 min) @85 C 1.00 tsp protofloc (Boil 15.0 min) London Ale III (Wyeast Labs #1318) 3rd regeneration Fermentation 1 week Beer Profile Est Original Gravity: 1.045 SG Measured Original Gravity: 1.044 SG Est Final Gravity: 1.012 SG Measured Final Gravity: 1.010 SG Estimated Alcohol by Vol: 4.31 % Actual Alcohol by Vol: 4.43 % Bitterness: 33.9 IBU Est Color: 11.9 EBC Greg on "AG#9 Angry Armadillo" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/ag9-angry-armadillo#post-8473 Wed, 03 Nov 2010 19:45:57 +0000 Greg 8473@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Hi Barry, I wouldn't clear those drains just yet, I think time help this one out. On the other hand clearing the drains may keep the missus happy <img src="http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_lol.gif" title=":lol:" class="bb_smilies" /> Bazza on "AG#9 Angry Armadillo" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/ag9-angry-armadillo#post-8457 Wed, 03 Nov 2010 14:54:46 +0000 Bazza 8457@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ On the subject of funny aftertaste, and foretaste for that matter: I may have experienced my first bad batch. It's a lager that I've brewed for visitors, so I'm not too distressed but curious. First thing I noticed, when bottling, was a few large yeasty clumps lying on top of the fermented brew, something I don't believe I've seen before. I measured the FG and it had fermented down to a final ABV of about 5.5%, so that was fine. The brew, however, had a real lingering taste of the yeast cake from which it was lifted. I'd changed the recipe to use less of the usual Hallertauer and Tettnang hops, lowering the IBU from 35 to 25. Anyway, it's been bottled 3 weeks ago, there's still this noticable sedimenty (there's a word for you) taste. Granted it's not 100% clear yet, so this taste may mellow given time, though my previous lagers have been very drinkable after 3 weeks. The only difference between this and all the previous lagers, apart from lowering the hops and IBU, was that this batch was 19L as opposed to the usual 8L, so maybe it takes longer to condition and I'm just being impatient. I have a pretty rigouous sterilization process, using WVP and plenty of rinsing, and this has never failed me before. The yeast was the usual cheapo Youngs lager yeast, but I was wondering if anyone else has experienced such clumps and a sedimenty-taste? If so, did it work out fine, or should I start clearing leaves from the bigger of my outside drains? Cheers, -Barry Tony on "AG#9 Angry Armadillo" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/ag9-angry-armadillo#post-8420 Tue, 02 Nov 2010 18:29:07 +0000 Tony 8420@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ <blockquote>This is a never ending quest to produce the perfect pint</blockquote> heh heh ... how true! Nath on "AG#9 Angry Armadillo" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/ag9-angry-armadillo#post-8415 Tue, 02 Nov 2010 08:55:40 +0000 Nath 8415@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Very true mate. <img src="http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_smile.gif" title=":-)" class="bb_smilies" /> Greg on "AG#9 Angry Armadillo" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/ag9-angry-armadillo#post-8411 Mon, 01 Nov 2010 23:23:13 +0000 Greg 8411@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Ian - good to see you got time to join the forum! This is a never ending quest to produce the perfect pint and your your own worst critic Nath. Ian on "AG#9 Angry Armadillo" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/ag9-angry-armadillo#post-8408 Mon, 01 Nov 2010 22:59:55 +0000 Ian 8408@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Hi Nath I treat all my water with crs. I fill 5l mineral water bottles and add 4ml using a syringe. I think I know the taste you mean. The first few brews I did were Woodfordes kits. They were great but developed an aftertaste that I would describe as 'plasticky' (if that is a word). I have not had the problem since moving to all grain brewing but never treated water for the kits so no proper control to use to judge more scientifically. Your approach in changing only one variable is much more scientific and valid! I did a version of exmoor gold. I'll stick the recipe up as I think it was one of the nicest I have tried. saracen on "AG#9 Angry Armadillo" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/ag9-angry-armadillo#post-8378 Mon, 01 Nov 2010 18:12:19 +0000 saracen 8378@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Hi Nath. Good thought. I would think it unlikely, because the temperature probably isn't high enough, but worth having a go at replacing. I think you need to look at the whole set-up and replace whatever might be suspect. Could there be something nasty stuck in a tube or a tap somewhere? You could always try a small batch using different kit, such as kitchen utensils and size the batch to fit the utensils. That would eliminate the whole set-up in one go. Good luck. Nath on "AG#9 Angry Armadillo" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/ag9-angry-armadillo#post-8344 Mon, 01 Nov 2010 11:53:46 +0000 Nath 8344@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Hi Ian, The exmoor is ok, but its my damn aftertaste! Its starting to dissapper now so maybe I just need to condition for longer (though its 5weeks old now) You said you used 4ml/5l - is that 4mls per 5 lts of water? Did you treat all the water or just the mash water? Saracen, Ive gone down most routes but I may be thinking about a tube Im using in my mashing and what I use to get the wort from the mash tun to the boiler or water (could be a non-food standard where the hot water is "stripping" the pvc from the tube very slowley). RE Diacetly - Im pretty sure its not this as there is no initial taste of butterscotch and it never turns to the point of being totally undrinkable. I also thought about the ph of my sparge water as my water must be around 7 and I have heard from sommewhere that this can also effect taste. Loads a variables, just knocking em off 1 by 1! saracen on "AG#9 Angry Armadillo" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/ag9-angry-armadillo#post-8309 Sun, 31 Oct 2010 18:16:55 +0000 saracen 8309@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Ian. That looks interesting. Let us now how it develops, especially the bitternes. HI Nath<blockquote> My last few brews have had a certain aftertaste that I cant pin anything on so im researching and asking loads of questions!</blockquote> In Suffolk we don't seem to have too much water quality problems and I never do anything other than boil the chalk out. In certain parts it often tastes like TCP, but not here. I've had a couple of aftertaste problems associated with ingredients, though. I used Muntons Liquid Malt Extract and made 2 test batches. They were both foul and eventually went very bad. I'm sure it had to be the extract, although no-one believes me. I'm not sure how you brew or what yeast you use, but WYeast advise a thorough Diacetyl rest for several of their yeasts. You can Google 'Diacetyl Rest' and there's loads of info, but this is an extract from one of them: It (Diacetyl) is detectable in beer at concentrations as low as fifty parts per billion. At low levels, it gives beer a slick mouthfeel; at higher levels, the flavor becomes buttery — diacetyl is in fact what they make artificial butter out of — then like butterscotch, and eventually downright rancid. There are loads of other things which could cause it, one of them being sparging at too hot a temperature (over 90) and extracting tanins. Have a good look in Dave Line's 'The Big Book of Brewing.' It covers just about everything. Ian on "AG#9 Angry Armadillo" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/ag9-angry-armadillo#post-8308 Sun, 31 Oct 2010 16:38:35 +0000 Ian 8308@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Hi Nath I knew I'd forget to include some details. Water treatment 4ml/5l water of CRS 1tsp gypsum in mash + 1 tsp in boil 0.25 tsp epsom salts in mash half a campden tablet in mash water and in sparge water when heating Fermentation was for a week at 21C, I haven't used a secondary yet and just went straight from primary to kegs/bottles. A bit of yeast in the botles, but nothing unpleasant. The sparge water went in at 75 but settled to 70 by the end of a fifteen minutes batch sparge. The water treatment makes a huge diference to Wessex waters wiltshire effort. Following Gregs advice I got the analysis and then used Graham Wheelers calculator to work out the additions depending on style. I had problems when I started with kits having a funy taste, I have not had the problem since treating and going all grain. I will post some of my other recipes. I did the exmoor gold recipe with golden promise malt. It was absolutely great. How is your version? Nath on "AG#9 Angry Armadillo" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/ag9-angry-armadillo#post-8303 Sun, 31 Oct 2010 14:58:41 +0000 Nath 8303@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Looks like great Pale, cant go wrony with classic challenger and great aroma hops, a few questions:- 1. How long did you ferment for and did you use a secondary? 2. What temp did you ferment at? 3. 70c sparge water - why the low temp and was it fly or batch? 4. Did you use any water treatmets? I only ask lots as I learn something new everyday on here! My last few brews have had a certain aftertaste that I cant pin anything on so im researching and asking loads of questions! Tony on "AG#9 Angry Armadillo" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/ag9-angry-armadillo#post-8301 Sun, 31 Oct 2010 14:24:28 +0000 Tony 8301@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Nice, very very nice. I've yet to try Amarillo hops but by all accounts they are wonderful. Hope the brew conditions well! Ian on "AG#9 Angry Armadillo" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/ag9-angry-armadillo#post-8300 Sun, 31 Oct 2010 14:21:25 +0000 Ian 8300@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ 1st recipe post from me. I wanted to make a pale ale with big hop character. Amarillo seemed to fit the bill. Angry Armadillo Extra Special/Strong Bitter (English Pale Ale) Type: All Grain Batch Size: 23.00 L Mash temp 67C 90 min 12.5l Sparge 70C total boil volume 29l Boil Time: 90 min Ingredients 5.00 kg Pale Malt, Maris Otter (5.9 EBC) 21.00 gm Challenger 1 [7.60 %] (90 min) Hops 25.00 gm Challenger 2 [7.20 %] (60 min) Hops 20.00 gm Amarillo [9.40 %] (15 min) Hops 20.00 gm Amarillo [9.40 %] (0 min) 1.00 tsp protofloc (Boil 15.0 min) 3rd generation British Ale (Wyeast Labs #1098) Beer Profile Est Original Gravity: 1.052 SG Measured 0riginal Gravity: 1.051 SG Est Final Gravity: 1.013 SG Measured Final Gravity: 1.010 SG Estimated Alcohol by Vol: 5.04 % Actual Alcohol by Vol: 5.34 % Bitterness: 43.1 IBU Est Color: 9.4 EBC This is now conditioning in mini kegs and bottles. Couldn't resist a taster after a week. It's a bit young but shows good promise. I'll update some tasting notes in due course. Any comments questions gratefully received. Greg on "Citrus Golden Ale" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/citrus-golden-ale#post-2912 Thu, 01 Apr 2010 19:24:46 +0000 Greg 2912@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Well this one is in the Barrel. Had to go for a standard barrel as the beer couldn't wait any longer the hadn't had a chance to get the Co2 for the Cornie yet. Its tasting really promising and its got a really deep orange colour to it which is unexpected as it was 100% pale grains. I guess it must have come from the hops in the steep. Its almost the colour of St Austell Tribute and it's clear so I can see it changing. They have styrians too so I'm guessing its these which are giving the colour. Tony on "Citrus Golden Ale" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/citrus-golden-ale#post-2749 Sat, 20 Mar 2010 10:55:54 +0000 Tony 2749@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ what's the maximum amount of times you can reuse Greg? I heard that the yeast mutates after a while, is that right? Greg on "Citrus Golden Ale" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/citrus-golden-ale#post-2748 Sat, 20 Mar 2010 10:51:23 +0000 Greg 2748@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ It makes the cost of the liquid yeast much more palatable. They will keep for quite a while if you make them up in a starter before using again. I'm planning 1318 for all of my pale ales now so planning to recycle this one over 4 or 5 brews. Tony on "Citrus Golden Ale" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/citrus-golden-ale#post-2747 Sat, 20 Mar 2010 08:51:01 +0000 Tony 2747@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ I must try keeping some yeast, I keep saying that I will but never do. Can't wait to see how your beer turns out! Greg on "Citrus Golden Ale" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/citrus-golden-ale#post-2736 Fri, 19 Mar 2010 21:48:27 +0000 Greg 2736@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ I racked this into secondary the other day and they are not kidding about this yeast being a true top fermenter, hardly any sediment and massive head. I think I should have left it for a couple of days longer. Anyway, got what was left of the sludge in a lemonade bottle in the fridge but its definitely still fermenting as it bubbling. Been gently opening the cap to release the pressure so I don't get a yeast bomb going off. Planning on using it in a couple of weeks so I will make up a 1 litre starter (100g spraymalt/1 litre boiled water) before pitching to make sure its okay. Leave for a couple of days and see if it ferments. The beer is tasting pretty good, really fruity but very cloudy and fermenting still. Greg on "Citrus Golden Ale" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/citrus-golden-ale#post-2649 Sun, 14 Mar 2010 10:22:07 +0000 Greg 2649@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Will do. I am concerned by the low IBU, hope its not too sweet but I had to follow the recipe so I'll let you know how it turns out. I love brewing beer, especially when the sun is shining. Planning another brewday in a couple of weeks, hopefully get round to the Vanilla Porter which I've been planning for a few weeks now. Tony on "Citrus Golden Ale" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/citrus-golden-ale#post-2648 Sun, 14 Mar 2010 10:17:37 +0000 Tony 2648@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ That looks wonderful Greg, keep us posted on the progress! Love to know how the citrus comes through in the finished beer! Greg on "Citrus Golden Ale" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/citrus-golden-ale#post-2647 Sun, 14 Mar 2010 09:31:04 +0000 Greg 2647@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Here's the sneaky brew I put together yesterday. I was testing the recipe out as it was one given to me by a very experienced brewer. The Brewers Gold were an unexpected delight. Very similar aroma to Cascade which I wasn't expecting but very nice. I did a pretty laid back approach to this one as I was doing lots of stuff in the Garden at the same time. I didn't even check the gravity until it was in the fermenter but turned out okay. I decided to switch back to Protofloc to see if I could get a clearer wort out of the boiler but came out the same as Irish Moss to be honest. I did have a really clear wort with lots of visible break material until I added the steep hops which seemed to cloud it up again. Ended up with 20 litres at 1.050 as I lost quite a bit again to the extra hops. I'm planning to ferment for 4 days, then rack to a secondary for a week. I don't normally do this but I want to recover the yeast for a future brew and also I want the beer to clear as much as possible before I add to the Cornie keg. I really like that Wyeast 1318 as I used it in a beer a while ago with great results and I'm think I'm going to use it for all pale ales from now on. This beer is lot lower IBU than my normal Pales but I'll see how it turns out. Looking good so far. Recipe: Citrus Golden Ale Style: Pale Ale TYPE: All Grain Recipe Specifications -------------------------- Batch Size: 23.00 L Estimated OG: 1.050 SG Estimated Color: 5.6 EBC Estimated IBU: 22 IBU Boil Time: 75 Minutes Est Abv: 5.2% Ingredients: ------------ 4980.00 gm Pale Malt, Maris Otter (4.5 EBC) 120g Wheat Malt 10 gm Rakau [12.00 %] (75 min) 20 gm Brewers Gold [8.20 %] (15 min) 60 gm Styrian Goldings [2.5 %] (Steep 1 hr) 80 gm NZ Cascade [7.6 %] (Steep 1 hr) Wyeast 1318 London Ale III Yeast. Greg on "House Pale" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/house-pale#post-1544 Sun, 17 Jan 2010 10:21:25 +0000 Greg 1544@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ So I thought I would do 2 brews in one day and see how that went. Its the way forward and everyones a lot happier all round. Longer brew day but needed less often. I didn't get the water on until gone 8 and was all done by 6.30, although still have some clearing up to do as dinner got in the way after the second one was in the fermenter. I've also been given a small burco by Nath which I will be able to use on the next day after a thorough descaling. Not sure what size it is but I think its about 15 litre which means with my large pan I should be able to heat enough water for the second sparge while the first is still boiling which will cut about 1.5 hrs off the total brew day. Anyway here's the recipe. No name for this one as this is basically my standard house pale ale which I just adjust each time to try different hops and yeast in the safe knowledge that I'm going to like it. Just Pale malt, around 5% ABV with 38 IBU. Variety is the spice of life (or should that be hop of life) and not sure I can make the same beer twice. There are too many hops/yeast combinations. Recipe: House Pale 16/1 Style: English Pale Ale TYPE: All Grain Recipe Specifications -------------------------- Batch Size: 23.00 L Estimated OG: 1.049 SG Estimated Color: 4.8 EBC Estimated IBU: 38 IBU Boil Time: 60 Minutes Est Abv: 4.7% Ingredients: ------------ 5000.00 gm Pale Malt, Maris Otter (3.0 EBC) 21.55 gm Challenger [6.30 %] (60 min) 26.73 gm Goldings [4.00 %] (60 min) 4.61 gm Challenger [6.3 %] (30 min) 9.29 gm Goldings [4.00 %] (30 min) 9.35 gm Challenger [6.3 %] (15 min) 26.35 gm Challenger [6.3 %] (5 min) 20.00gm Challenger [6.3 %] (Steep 80c 30 min) Wyeast 1318 London Ale III (Propagator made up to 2 litre starter 24 hrs previous). Choice of hops was simply to use up some stuff I had in the fridge but so far so good. My new brewing plan is to always make a batch based on this criteria and then make something a little more experimental. Double brew days from now on and it will ensure I always have a easy drinking pale ale in supply. Next time I want to try and emulate St Austells Tribute which says it uses fuggles, Willamette and Styrian Goldings in the hops (qty and times unknown). I guessing fuggles in the copper with Willamette and Styrians as the late additions. It has nice citrus aroma but not like cascade type APA's which I'm guessing comes from heavy Styrians in the steep. I'm also keen to experiment further with heavy weighting towards late hop additions with very little copper hops but we'll see how the Rocker comes out first. I also have some draft Black Sheep the other night which was lovely. Hoping to sneak another brew day in a couple of weeks to really give stocks a boost then go back to once a month. Greg on "Pale ale with Willamette and Cascade" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/pale-ale-with-willamette-and-cascade#post-39 Fri, 02 Oct 2009 10:28:51 +0000 Greg 39@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ I don't know about the NZ hops to be honest but I'm going to get a pale ale on the go this weekend with some so watch this space. I think they are going to be similar to American hops, lots of fruit and spice. I'll post the recipe once I've finished. dandan on "Pale ale with Willamette and Cascade" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/pale-ale-with-willamette-and-cascade#post-36 Thu, 01 Oct 2009 23:39:17 +0000 dandan 36@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ I think its part of being northern to find as many uses for one item as you can! like a turkey baster from a certain high street store makes a great attachment to a Basic Barrel (<a href="http://www.brewuk.co.uk/store/index.php/containers/barrelsbarrels/5-gal-basic-white-barrel-with-s30-cap.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.brewuk.co.uk/store/index.php/containers/barrelsbarrels/5-gal-basic-white-barrel-with-s30-cap.html</a>) and gives you a pub style tap for about £1!! I haven't tried the Nelson Sauvin! but a Beer Brewed with Nelson Sauvin hops in Nelson, Lancashire must be done! I'm loving the APA! I'm going to be brewing more with american hops they are so flavorsome! now that i've used up all the hops i've had in the freezer for the last seven months! I need to order more! I can see a brew day coming up in the next few weeks just a choice between Pale ale or Wheat beer now! What are the NZ hops like? Greg on "Pale ale with Willamette and Cascade" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/pale-ale-with-willamette-and-cascade#post-35 Thu, 01 Oct 2009 23:12:36 +0000 Greg 35@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Dan you are a great one for gadget suggestions. The second pint seems to have less floating hops so hopefully it will be okay. To be honest I'm not too bothered anyhow. Dry hopping certainly gives a great hop aroma. The cascade and willamette have given a lovely grapefruit style flavour, spicy and dry without too much fruitiness. Have you tried the nelson Sauvin? dandan on "Pale ale with Willamette and Cascade" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/pale-ale-with-willamette-and-cascade#post-34 Thu, 01 Oct 2009 22:40:11 +0000 dandan 34@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ I bought a spice ball from lakeland plastics to dry hop, hopefully that will prevent any floating hops! I'm drinking a pint of my latest beer (APA) with Simcoe, Glacier and those fantastic Amarillo Golds and its got a really nice fruity flavor! Greg on "Pale ale with Willamette and Cascade" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/pale-ale-with-willamette-and-cascade#post-32 Thu, 01 Oct 2009 22:32:18 +0000 Greg 32@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ My lastest pale ale has cleared, only been in the barrel 2 weeks. Lovely hoppy flavour which I'm hoping won't fade. First time I have dried hopped straight into into the barrel and do seem to have a few bit of hops floating in the beer, hoping these will sink over time. Definitely the hoppiest beer I have made so far. The Willamette and Cascade give a really nice, distinct flavour. I also used a Wyeast English Ale which has given a lovely crisp flavour. Going to try some Rakau this weekend although not sure what to go with it. Perhaps some East Kent Goldings or use up the cascade and willamette from a couple of weeks ago. There are so many combinations. Oh the joy of home brewing!