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Brew UK Forum » Tag: Lager - Recent Posts http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Brew UK Forum » Tag: Lager - Recent Posts en Sat, 04 Feb 2012 23:56:32 +0000 Hamish on "Help on lagering technique" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/help-on-lagering-technique#post-19359 Tue, 30 Aug 2011 15:28:07 +0000 Hamish 19359@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Thanks for that. Amanife on "Help on lagering technique" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/help-on-lagering-technique#post-19349 Tue, 30 Aug 2011 11:34:13 +0000 Amanife 19349@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Good to read source material as a basis for sure and right proportion measure of it. But, where lager yeast really came from? Before, it was used in Germany during the Sixteenth century to brew lager-style beers. However, a study that involved five years of fieldwork and genetic evaluation has observed where the stuff originated from. It turns out that beer invented by Germans uses yeast originated from Argentina. Discussing related article entitled <a href="http://www.newsytype.com/10483-lager-yeast">Origins of lager yeast tracked to Argentina</a> . Searching the truth for us to know behind its great use in beer. Tony on "Starapromen - who else has been there?" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/starapromen-who-else-has-been-there#post-13003 Thu, 03 Mar 2011 17:58:52 +0000 Tony 13003@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Hey .. that gives me an idea! I used to love Star .. 5 pints would really give you a buzz.... I'm not a lager drinker, but if there's nothing decent on tap, I'll go for one of these! Nath on "Starapromen - who else has been there?" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/starapromen-who-else-has-been-there#post-11693 Mon, 31 Jan 2011 21:47:33 +0000 Nath 11693@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Love it. Could you imagine the British equivilant - secondary shoolers going down to the fosters plant in wales! Classic! clongo on "Starapromen - who else has been there?" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/starapromen-who-else-has-been-there#post-11692 Mon, 31 Jan 2011 21:43:58 +0000 clongo 11692@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Has anyone else been to Prague's Starapromen brewery - went last year in sub sub zero temps and forgot all about the pics. Interesting tour - There is a link to my snaps of the old brewery that's no longer used but shown to visitors. They brew continuously for 6 days than give all their kit a thorough clean on day 7 ready for the next week. When I went there was a party of 14 year old school kids just finishing their tour - they were in the sample room supping Starapromens finest - couldn't happen here could it - think of the headlines in the Daily Mail. In the sampling room there was no limit on the number of beers you could sample and next door in the adjoined bar the food was excellent <a href="http://www.facebook.com/album.php?id=1235943926&aid=215143">The old kit at Starapromen in Prague - what a way to pass an hour or so!</a> Ian on "Becks Clone" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/becks-clone#post-10644 Wed, 05 Jan 2011 18:32:25 +0000 Ian 10644@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Maybe a 'slip' of the hand when adding in the hops....I brewed something that was aimed at the missus. Had some flavour but she still liked it. As you say, f you make something tasty at least you can enjoy it. Greg on "Becks Clone" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/becks-clone#post-10642 Wed, 05 Jan 2011 16:52:54 +0000 Greg 10642@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Yeah I know what you mean but for me its a bit of a challenge. Probably end up making something with too much flavour and drinking it all myself! simonb_13 on "Becks Clone" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/becks-clone#post-10641 Wed, 05 Jan 2011 16:42:03 +0000 simonb_13 10641@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ I used to drink Becks all the time (not literally!) because it was the only lager that was sold everywhere that actually tasted of anything. Not that I'll be trying out this recipe any time soon though! <img src="http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_smile.gif" title=":-)" class="bb_smilies" /> Ian on "Becks Clone" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/becks-clone#post-10629 Tue, 04 Jan 2011 23:21:03 +0000 Ian 10629@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ There's a reason why tesco can sell becks cheaper than bottled water.......;-) But you have to earn beer points to get to brew day somehow and at least this way you can play with your new shiny. You could allways 'slip' when adding the hops and make a becks IPA. saracen on "Becks Clone" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/becks-clone#post-10628 Tue, 04 Jan 2011 21:18:50 +0000 saracen 10628@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Sorry. Got this completely wrong. Nath on "Becks Clone" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/becks-clone#post-10559 Mon, 03 Jan 2011 13:58:32 +0000 Nath 10559@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Half bottle and half corny surely? Gota see how fizzy you can get ya lager! Greg on "Becks Clone" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/becks-clone#post-10557 Mon, 03 Jan 2011 12:04:40 +0000 Greg 10557@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Tap water definitely but treated accordingly. Might have to bottle this one <img src="http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_cry.gif" title=":cry:" class="bb_smilies" /> Nath on "Becks Clone" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/becks-clone#post-10556 Mon, 03 Jan 2011 11:21:45 +0000 Nath 10556@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ looks like a beer! Are you sure 40ltrs will keep her happy for long enough! hehehehehe. On another note, will you be using Tap or going for a softer mineral water? Greg on "Becks Clone" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/becks-clone#post-10550 Mon, 03 Jan 2011 10:53:34 +0000 Greg 10550@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Okay before you ask the other half loves Becks so I really want to impress her by making something very similar or hopefully even better. Worst comes to worst and I'll have to drink it. Now I have temp controlled fermentation I also fancy having another crack at a lager. So recipe so far. Batch Size: 20.00 L Estimated OG: 1.046 SG Estimated IBU: 26 IBU Boil Time: 90 Minutes Est Abv: 4.6% Ingredients: ------------ 3.46 kg German Pilsner Malt 354 gm flaked barley 118gm carapils 22 gm Northern Brewer (90 min) 13 gm Hallertauer Hersbrucker (10 min) 13 gm Hallertauer Hersbrucker (1 min) Yeast TBC probably Wyeast 2042 Danish Lager although may go for an American yeast as she likes the lager to be dry and crisp. After yesterdays brew, I think that 20 litre batch size will cause a few problems so I'll probably up this to at least 40 litres. Anyone produced at crisp tasteless lagers? <img src="http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_biggrin.gif" title=":D" class="bb_smilies" /> Nath on "Help on lagering technique" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/help-on-lagering-technique#post-2168 Fri, 19 Feb 2010 11:24:00 +0000 Nath 2168@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ +1 to greg there. The first time I used s23 yeast and cold fermented I was amazed in the difference it it. Much more crisp and lager like, though I cant rememebr what kit I done. Greg on "Help on lagering technique" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/help-on-lagering-technique#post-2113 Sun, 14 Feb 2010 00:11:39 +0000 Greg 2113@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ If you make sure the kit has a lager yeast, or upgrade the yeast to a lager yeast then cold fermenting and lagering will definately improve your brews. andyjono1 on "Help on lagering technique" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/help-on-lagering-technique#post-2112 Sat, 13 Feb 2010 23:56:40 +0000 andyjono1 2112@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Hi guys Have just posted a question on lagering on another part, should have looked here first. Good points made, helps clear a few queries. Would techniques such as lagering be a bit lost on kit brews. I am doing kits at the mo, but wish to refine the product/taste wherever possible but wonder if the extra time / effort would make a noticeable difference to the end product rather than usingthe basic method. Great site thanks Greg on "The Lager with no name" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/the-lager-with-no-name#post-1732 Sun, 31 Jan 2010 14:11:54 +0000 Greg 1732@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ I've only just seen your post Varnish. I agree the name is rubbish but I was feeling very lazy at the time. I like your one and think I'll use it if I make this beer again. Greg on "Help on lagering technique" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/help-on-lagering-technique#post-1731 Sun, 31 Jan 2010 14:10:36 +0000 Greg 1731@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Hi Nath, I've only done a lager once as I don't have a brew fridge so its difficult for me to get the temp right. I did it last summer by placing the fermenter in a container filled with water (which came about 1/2 way up the fermenter). I then filled some 1 litre PET bottles and froze them. I then placed around 4 in the water and replaced with frozen ones 2 / 3 times per day which got the temp down to 12c. I primary fermented at that temp for about a week (can't really remember) but when the fermentation was about 3/4 way through. I then took inside and left for 24 hrs for the diacytil rest before racking into a clean fermenter and sticking in the fridge for 2 weeks. I then bottled with the normal amount of sugar. It turned out nice, not as crisp as I was hoping I probably would have improved with a bit more time (shame I drank it all so quick!). I would have dropped the lagering temp more slowly if I had a temperature controlled brew fridge so you'll method looks good to me although you may want to the rest before fermentation is complete. Don't worry about having enough yeast in suspension for carbonation as this will not be an issue but you may find it takes a bit longer to carbonate. I would use about 120g/23 litres. You may want to make a starter up for the Wyeast as you'll need a fair amount of yeast when fermenting at lower temps. Probably worth doing a bit of research on that one. Would be good to know how it turns out. I've been thinking about doing another one myself. Nath on "Help on lagering technique" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/help-on-lagering-technique#post-1730 Sun, 31 Jan 2010 13:31:15 +0000 Nath 1730@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Hey everyone, Gonna do a lager for my next ag (the lager with no name from greg) I have been reading up on lagering and there seems to be multiple ways of doing it. I wanted to know if anyone has had the pleasure of lagering! Heres what I have planned after reading loads of bits n bobs:- AG as per norm. Cool wort to 14-15c and pitch yeast (wyeast activator 2278 Czeh pils). Put in brewfridge @ 11-12c and ferment as usual for 7-10 days until fg is reached. Raise to 18-19c for 2 days (for a diacytil rest - not sure if this is needed as I have constant Low temp and pitched at a low temp). Rack to secondary and seal with airlock @12c and drop 1-2c per day until 4c (lowest fridge will go) and lager for 2 weeks. Bottle as per norm. I think the biggest problems for me are (apart from the fact I have never erally lagered anything):- Wondering is there will be enough yeast in suspension after the long ferment and lagering. When to rack to secondary - at fermentation end or 3/4's into it so there is more yeast left for the secondary, and if so should I bring the temp up in the secondary for the diacytil rest instead. Also how much sugar to prime with. What do people think on this process? Ta, Nath Nath on "The Lager with no name" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/the-lager-with-no-name#post-1718 Sat, 30 Jan 2010 18:20:29 +0000 Nath 1718@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Hey greg as I wanna try this soon (fingers crossed for next week) any chance of going through your process from when the boil had finished. eg the lagering and such. Sorry to be a pain. Nath Varnish on "The Lager with no name" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/the-lager-with-no-name#post-319 Sat, 24 Oct 2009 19:56:41 +0000 Varnish 319@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ The lager with no name isn't particularly catchy. How about (I'm thinking Clint Eastwood in the dollar movies as "the man with no name"): "Sergio Lager-Onee". Tony on "The Lager with no name" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/the-lager-with-no-name#post-314 Sat, 24 Oct 2009 19:46:04 +0000 Tony 314@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ :o) Well said! Odd that 500g gave such a strong flavour, I'm quite a fan of the amber malt but I have always used it alongside crystal. I saw your recipe for the Rakau Rhino and was just wondering about trying it myself... but as I've just mentioned in another post, I'm limited to what I'm able to make by the missus! (I wonder just how many of us are in the same boat?) Sounds like a real good one though. I'll be making two brews this week - one being the Christmas Ale... maybe that one should be the other? :o) Greg on "The Lager with no name" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/the-lager-with-no-name#post-294 Sat, 24 Oct 2009 17:56:15 +0000 Greg 294@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ I've heard the tettnang is a really good hop although I haven't tried as yet. I made a APA with Rakau and NZ Cascade last week and they both smell amazing. First taste out of the fermenter is a little disappointing but I think it will improve as it was quite bitter. I also used a Wyeast which I didn't prep up with a starter and there was quite long lag time so I'm hoping nothing nasty got it there. Time will tell. I also used some Amber malt in a brew quite a while ago, as we discussed. That didn't turn out well. The Amber is actually a really strong flavour, much stronger than I had anticipated. I only used 500g but its not what I was after. It's drinkable but definitely not one of my better brew's. You've got to try this things though. I think it would be better in smaller qty and matched up with some crystal malt and some fuggle/EKG. I used single hop (first Gold) and again I think this hop was too neutral for the amber malt. Life would be boring though if I only made a safe beer which I knew I liked. Tony on "The Lager with no name" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/the-lager-with-no-name#post-288 Sat, 24 Oct 2009 15:09:53 +0000 Tony 288@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Ha! Well remembered! Excellent thanks... I used Tettnang in the first and Hallertauer in the second. There isn't the big difference that I originally expected, but the Hallertauer has a much crisper and fruitier taste. Both have now been in the bottle 4 weeks and are just about ready to drink but I'm delaying it as much as is physically possible :o) It was a good experiment using the more traditional lager hops in an IPA, but I think in future, I'll stick to something with a little more b*lls :o) Greg on "The Lager with no name" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/the-lager-with-no-name#post-282 Sat, 24 Oct 2009 08:42:00 +0000 Greg 282@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ No I have never tried Saaz in an IPA but I do have a half opened pack in my fridge and planning a pale this weekend so might bung some in at the end. How did you hop experiment go? Last time we spoke you had done 2 batches with slightly different hop, can't remember which ones? Tony on "The Lager with no name" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/the-lager-with-no-name#post-277 Sat, 24 Oct 2009 08:07:32 +0000 Tony 277@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Ever used the Saaz in an IPA Greg? Pretty low on the aa's so could get a nice lot in there! Greg on "The Lager with no name" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/the-lager-with-no-name#post-214 Wed, 21 Oct 2009 22:57:02 +0000 Greg 214@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Hi Nath, yes this is the one I gave you, turned out pretty good, in fact I just finished the last bottle! Both hops at the same time. Cheers Greg. Nath on "The Lager with no name" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/the-lager-with-no-name#post-212 Wed, 21 Oct 2009 21:51:27 +0000 Nath 212@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ I take it this is the one that I tried? Yeah i really liked it. I rekon its a summer crowd pleaser. More flavoursome that any of the lagers I have tasted but at the same time deffinatly had that "summer drink quenchability" that a lager has. A quick question - When you boil the hops do you add the sazz and hallertuer at the same time or are they boiled 1 after the other? Ta, Nath Greg on "The Lager with no name" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/the-lager-with-no-name#post-195 Mon, 19 Oct 2009 23:46:11 +0000 Greg 195@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ As promised here is my first attempt at lager. Brewed it about 2 months ago now and struggled to keep the temp low as I don't have a brew fridge but did okay by freezing PET bottles filled with water then placing them around the fermenter (which was sitting in a bigger container) filled with water. Changed them 2 or 3 times a day and managed to get to about 12c most of the time. Not too bad bearing in mind it was high of summer, although not exactly a scorcher. Turned out pretty good. Very flavoursome and not as dry as I would like but really nice. Improved and mellowed with age, started out quite bitter but this subsided just as the last bottles were consumed. Recipe Specifications -------------------------- Batch Size: 20.00 L Estimated OG: 1.047 SG Estimated FG: 1.011 SG Alcohol Content:4.6% Estimated Color: 4 EBC Estimated IBU: 32 IBU Boil Time: 90 Minutes Ingredients: ------------ Amount Item 3500.00 gm Lager Malt 400gm Wheat malt 45.00gm Hallertauer Hersbrucker [3 %] (90 min Boil) 45.00 gm Saaz [2.2 %] (90 min Boil) 15.00 gm Saaz [2.2 %] (15 min Boil) 2038 Wyeast Munich