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Brew UK Forum » Tag: Kit - Recent Posts http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Brew UK Forum » Tag: Kit - Recent Posts en Sat, 04 Feb 2012 23:45:36 +0000 Hamish on "Kit Enhancement - Black IPA" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/kit-enhancement-black-ipa#post-29961 Thu, 02 Feb 2012 21:42:52 +0000 Hamish 29961@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ I would think Carafa 3 is the stuff you want. Barracuda on "Kit Enhancement - Black IPA" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/kit-enhancement-black-ipa#post-29952 Thu, 02 Feb 2012 19:21:49 +0000 Barracuda 29952@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Hey all. If I wanted to take an IPA beer kit (For example, Coopers) and steep some malts to make it into a pseudo Black IPA, would you suggest Dark Crystal or Roasted Dark malts to add the colour? kaptinkurtz on "Using honey/ golden syrup / herbs with a kit brew?" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/using-honey-golden-syrup-herbs-with-a-kit-brew#post-29260 Wed, 25 Jan 2012 13:33:00 +0000 kaptinkurtz 29260@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ I tried making this: [url=http://www.brewuk.co.uk/store/beerkits/muntons-con/muntons-connoisseur-s-wheat-beer-1-8kg.html]null a couple of times, and having done the spiced honey beer recipe on the site as well, I decided to combine the two for Xmas Made the kit as per instructions, but added a big muslin "teabag" of dried orange blossom and coriander for the ferment, then gave it a good squeeze before siphoning off into a clean fermenter for bottling. I also substituted some of the sugar for a couple of big jars of decent honey. The end result was lovely, and I've got another one on already. Probably used too much sugar, and I think it was a bit stronger than normal, but didn't ruin it Nice in Winter, going to be nicer in Summer... Goliath on "Using honey/ golden syrup / herbs with a kit brew?" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/using-honey-golden-syrup-herbs-with-a-kit-brew#post-26395 Mon, 09 Jan 2012 14:56:08 +0000 Goliath 26395@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Fair enough <img src="http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_smile.gif" title=":)" class="bb_smilies" /> I've tried many meads, some I liked, some I really did not! Same as beer, wine etc. There are many types/flavours. I'm sure there's a mead for everyone! A friend primed his bitter bottles with honey recently. It gives a nice sweetness as opposed to sugar. Sqiffy on "Using honey/ golden syrup / herbs with a kit brew?" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/using-honey-golden-syrup-herbs-with-a-kit-brew#post-26390 Mon, 09 Jan 2012 14:52:16 +0000 Sqiffy 26390@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ I'm with Seamus on this one. I've not really liked the meads I've tried so I don't think I'll be brewing with honey any time soon. Good luck with your mead trials, I hear brewing mead can get rather addictive. Happy brewing <img src="http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_smile.gif" title=":)" class="bb_smilies" /> Cheers! mugins on "Using honey/ golden syrup / herbs with a kit brew?" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/using-honey-golden-syrup-herbs-with-a-kit-brew#post-26389 Mon, 09 Jan 2012 14:51:38 +0000 mugins 26389@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ found this <a href="http://www.wyrdwords.vispa.com/heathenry/mead/index.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.wyrdwords.vispa.com/heathenry/mead/index.html</a> Goliath on "Using honey/ golden syrup / herbs with a kit brew?" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/using-honey-golden-syrup-herbs-with-a-kit-brew#post-26386 Mon, 09 Jan 2012 14:45:41 +0000 Goliath 26386@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Well, I'm still reasonably new to this, but... It would depend on what honey you want to use. So far, as I'm still finding my way with mead, I've only used cheap honey. The great skill comes when you brew/ferment to bring out and compliment the subtle flavours different honeys have, for example clover honey vs apple honey, etc. This is where it gets more complicated and also more expensive, as purer and 'classier' honey costs more. So, if you were to use honey in ale, I'd say a cheaper one could be fine (although I've not tried it!) as the main flavours come from the hops and malt. It depends how deep you want to get into it I suppose. The comparison with homemade wine and mead follows the same thought I guess... if you use expensive honey, it will be more expensive than blackberries you have foraged, for instance. But, with my attempts so far, I have used cheap honey, so per gallon it is not expensive. Cheap additions like fruits, spices and herbs all change the taste of the mead, but don't add much to the price tag. I have a batch of traditional mead on the go right now (honey, water and yeast) and used Sainsbury's value honey, a wine yeast (I think, will check my notes if you'd like) and bottled water. It's cheap to make, but I have no idea how it'll turn out, so we'll see. If I were to use expensive honey in a traditional mead, I'd be a lot more cautious with regards to yeast selection, water, temperatures and conditioning times, as there would be more money invested in it. seamus48 on "Using honey/ golden syrup / herbs with a kit brew?" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/using-honey-golden-syrup-herbs-with-a-kit-brew#post-26384 Mon, 09 Jan 2012 14:43:02 +0000 seamus48 26384@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ <blockquote>aged for 6 years or so.</blockquote> No 2 son left his for over a year before first test... tried it again after 2 years ... still wasn't for me. Not sour or gone off or anything, just not for me thanks. <img src="http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_wink.gif" title=":wink:" class="bb_smilies" /> Sqiffy on "Using honey/ golden syrup / herbs with a kit brew?" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/using-honey-golden-syrup-herbs-with-a-kit-brew#post-26383 Mon, 09 Jan 2012 14:36:05 +0000 Sqiffy 26383@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ So, Goliath, is mead comparatively expensive to make or does it compare favourably with standard homemade (as opposed to kit) wines? If you use honey in ale as a sugar substitute does that cost much more? Goliath on "Using honey/ golden syrup / herbs with a kit brew?" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/using-honey-golden-syrup-herbs-with-a-kit-brew#post-26380 Mon, 09 Jan 2012 14:18:22 +0000 Goliath 26380@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ It's usually aged in bulk, so there is enough of the final product to make it worthwhile. That is for show meads and traditional meads, so I've read. They're not all aged that long. I have some quick mead recipes which are ready in a couple of months. If you have the patience I'm sure it's worth it <img src="http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_smile.gif" title=":)" class="bb_smilies" /> mugins on "Using honey/ golden syrup / herbs with a kit brew?" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/using-honey-golden-syrup-herbs-with-a-kit-brew#post-26373 Mon, 09 Jan 2012 13:53:28 +0000 mugins 26373@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ dont think i could age a drink that long.6 years come on Goliath on "Using honey/ golden syrup / herbs with a kit brew?" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/using-honey-golden-syrup-herbs-with-a-kit-brew#post-26370 Mon, 09 Jan 2012 13:51:04 +0000 Goliath 26370@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ <blockquote>Does anyone make mead on this forum?</blockquote> I do <img src="http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_smile.gif" title=":)" class="bb_smilies" /> Well... I'm trying. I've been doing 1 gallon batches of different recipes to find one I'd like to work on. My latest is a Braggot (honey brewed with hops, an 'Ale Mead' if you will). I've read a lot about meads and some of the nicest traditional meads are bulk aged for 6 years or so. Not sure mine will last that long! saracen on "Using honey/ golden syrup / herbs with a kit brew?" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/using-honey-golden-syrup-herbs-with-a-kit-brew#post-26366 Mon, 09 Jan 2012 13:21:21 +0000 saracen 26366@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Not me, and I haven't seen it referred to on the forum. mugins on "Using honey/ golden syrup / herbs with a kit brew?" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/using-honey-golden-syrup-herbs-with-a-kit-brew#post-26360 Mon, 09 Jan 2012 13:15:35 +0000 mugins 26360@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ as anybody on here made this.and what was it like saracen on "Using honey/ golden syrup / herbs with a kit brew?" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/using-honey-golden-syrup-herbs-with-a-kit-brew#post-26355 Mon, 09 Jan 2012 13:12:03 +0000 saracen 26355@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ here's always the Spiced Honey Beer recipe on this site. <a href="http://www.brewuk.co.uk/store/recipes-spiced-honey-beer" rel="nofollow">http://www.brewuk.co.uk/store/recipes-spiced-honey-beer</a> seamus48 on "Using honey/ golden syrup / herbs with a kit brew?" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/using-honey-golden-syrup-herbs-with-a-kit-brew#post-26352 Mon, 09 Jan 2012 13:10:02 +0000 seamus48 26352@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ My son had a crack at it.. the final product wasn't up to much by his own admission. I don't like honey so only had a few tasters. Not my cup of tea if you will excuse the expression. <img src="http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_redface.gif" title=":oops:" class="bb_smilies" /> Sqiffy on "Using honey/ golden syrup / herbs with a kit brew?" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/using-honey-golden-syrup-herbs-with-a-kit-brew#post-26350 Mon, 09 Jan 2012 13:08:07 +0000 Sqiffy 26350@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ I know a winemaker on the south coast who loves making Mead. He works in the haulage trade and a contact brought him a huge bucket of Polish honey (supposed to be the bees knees?!?) back from a trip to Poland and he almost wet himself with joy. Obviously there is a long tradition of brewing with honey but it is a fringe activity these days. Probable due to the cost of the honey against white sugar, spraymalt or brewing sugar. Does anyone make mead on this forum? saracen on "Using honey/ golden syrup / herbs with a kit brew?" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/using-honey-golden-syrup-herbs-with-a-kit-brew#post-26346 Mon, 09 Jan 2012 12:59:49 +0000 saracen 26346@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Not sure why no-one replied. Personally, I didn't see it because I was probably away at the time. Yes, you can alter kits, but you need to be careful as you can upset the balance between the ABV and Bittering. I've no experience with herbs, but honey or golden syrup, brown sugar, other types of highly flavoured sugar or molasses etc work fine either as an additive or a substitute for household sugar in a single can kit. Premium kits are slightly different and need a bit of working out depending on the circumstances at the time, eg. make of kit, effect required, etc. mugins on "Using honey/ golden syrup / herbs with a kit brew?" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/using-honey-golden-syrup-herbs-with-a-kit-brew#post-26339 Mon, 09 Jan 2012 12:43:26 +0000 mugins 26339@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ what no reply was this because.it would not work.or what seamus48 on "It's Christmas Brew Time!" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/its-christmas-brew-time#post-23057 Tue, 29 Nov 2011 14:23:21 +0000 seamus48 23057@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Saracen's Wifey tweak??? <img src="http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_eek.gif" title="8O" class="bb_smilies" /> <img src="http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_eek.gif" title="8O" class="bb_smilies" /> <img src="http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_eek.gif" title="8O" class="bb_smilies" /> Mark on "It's Christmas Brew Time!" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/its-christmas-brew-time#post-23050 Tue, 29 Nov 2011 13:35:27 +0000 Mark 23050@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Good news Phil on the newborn congratulations. What did you find most enjoyable making the wherry with Saracens help or making the baby hopefully not with Saracens help? lol <img src="http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_lol.gif" title=":lol:" class="bb_smilies" /> PMA on "It's Christmas Brew Time!" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/its-christmas-brew-time#post-23035 Tue, 29 Nov 2011 12:49:26 +0000 PMA 23035@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ I suppose I could add talc and poo to a standard kit? saracen on "It's Christmas Brew Time!" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/its-christmas-brew-time#post-23029 Tue, 29 Nov 2011 12:24:31 +0000 saracen 23029@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Hearty congratulations, Phil and Mrs Phil. Very pleased the beer has gone well. You'll have to brew a "Baby Special". Nath on "It's Christmas Brew Time!" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/its-christmas-brew-time#post-23010 Tue, 29 Nov 2011 09:49:18 +0000 Nath 23010@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Congrats dude, great way to wet the head! LORDWALNEY on "It's Christmas Brew Time!" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/its-christmas-brew-time#post-23009 Tue, 29 Nov 2011 03:30:28 +0000 LORDWALNEY 23009@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Congratulations. Remember to put the wherry down when you pick him up. <img src="http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_wink.gif" title=":wink:" class="bb_smilies" /> seamus48 on "It's Christmas Brew Time!" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/its-christmas-brew-time#post-22943 Mon, 28 Nov 2011 21:31:52 +0000 seamus48 22943@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Hoorah!!!!! Congrats on both fronts!! <img src="http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_wink.gif" title=":wink:" class="bb_smilies" /> Best wishes to the proud mum too... PMA on "It's Christmas Brew Time!" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/its-christmas-brew-time#post-22942 Mon, 28 Nov 2011 21:21:38 +0000 PMA 22942@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Update: beer tastes bloody grand already, and it's been sat in the warm! Only just put it out in the shed today so hoping for a lovely result <img src="http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_smile.gif" title=":)" class="bb_smilies" /> And in other news, I am now the proud father of a wonderful boy named Jacob <img src="http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_biggrin.gif" title=":D" class="bb_smilies" /> PMA on "It's Christmas Brew Time!" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/its-christmas-brew-time#post-21502 Wed, 02 Nov 2011 11:17:53 +0000 PMA 21502@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Aah, coolio. In that case, I'll just leave the whole thing alone until a couple of weeks has elapsed. I'm not all that fussed about taking a hydro reading this time round. I'm crap at reading them anyway so I doubt I'd be that accurate if I did bother. I would imagine that two weeks would be plenty time for fermentation to have completed in any case, so I'm not worried about barreling it then! I'm going to get myself a plastic sieve this week to fish the hops out with when the time comes as well. Ooh, and some more CO2 bulbs while I'm at it. I'm happy that fermentation has slowed down LOTS, the airlock is no longer bubbling and the lid is no longer going convex, so hop(e)fully the aromas aren't being driven away. All seems to be good in the hood! saracen on "It's Christmas Brew Time!" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/its-christmas-brew-time#post-21501 Wed, 02 Nov 2011 10:33:40 +0000 saracen 21501@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Morning to you, too. Yes, it doesn't quite add up. Often it takes 24 or more hours for the fermentation to start, depending on temperature, then 3 or 4 days for it to die down. Add that to the 7 days and you're at 11 - 12. Adding hops after 3 days is a rough guide. It also says; "after the primary fermentation has slowed." It could be after 2 days, or 5. The wait is so that the large volumes of CO2 produced initially don't drive off the aroma elements. Leave them in for the full 2 weeks, but if the beer is clear after the seven days, barrel it from there. The idea of the 2 weeks is to; a) Make sure the fermentation has finished. b) Ensure that when using some of the Liquid Yeasts, adequate time has elapsed for any undesireable elements, like Diacetyl, to be eliminated, and c) To allow the beer to clear a lot more before you barrel it leading to less sediment in the barrel. All a bit academic really. The only time you might risk getting off flavours from dry hopping would be if they were left in for a couple of months. PMA on "It's Christmas Brew Time!" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/its-christmas-brew-time#post-21498 Wed, 02 Nov 2011 10:15:19 +0000 PMA 21498@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Morning Saracen...yup, another question <img src="http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_smile.gif" title=":)" class="bb_smilies" /> You say above to leave the hops in the fv for 7 days, which is all good. But later you also say that the best practice is to leave it all in the fv for two weeks? Do I remove the hops after 7 days then leave the beer to sit where it is for a further 4 days (having waited 3 days to put the hops in), or leave them there for the full two weeks (10 days dry hopping), removing them just before I barrel? Sorry to be a pain in the proverbial! saracen on "It's Christmas Brew Time!" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/its-christmas-brew-time#post-21404 Mon, 31 Oct 2011 13:04:44 +0000 saracen 21404@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Hi PMA I'll mail you this afternoon. Yes, best left alone. Everyu time you open the lid, that's another cvhance for the nasties to get in. I do an OG reading at the start, then nothing until it goes in the barrel..... and STILL it goes wrong sometimes. EKG should give you a good flavour and 'nose' at that quantity without turning it into paint stripper. PMA on "It's Christmas Brew Time!" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/its-christmas-brew-time#post-21402 Mon, 31 Oct 2011 11:56:03 +0000 PMA 21402@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Hi Saracen, I did indeed use Goldings, East Kent Goldings specifically. I do like a hoppy beer so I thought I'd hit the high end of the scale <img src="http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_smile.gif" title=":)" class="bb_smilies" /> Everything is setled down now, I'm just going to ignore it for two weeks then barrel the bugger. I'm not sure I'm even going to bother with gravity reading, should be well over and done with by two weeks! And yes, on your other note, here is my email addy (spaced out to avoid spammers!) pmurrillsart at yahoo dot co dot uk. Hope that makes sense <img src="http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_smile.gif" title=":)" class="bb_smilies" /> saracen on "It's Christmas Brew Time!" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/its-christmas-brew-time#post-21398 Mon, 31 Oct 2011 10:34:56 +0000 saracen 21398@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ <blockquote>I hate this worry! It's like having a child!</blockquote> Reminds me of the old joke about the girl who went to the Dentist. "Oh dear," she said as the walked into the surgery, "I think I'd rather have a baby than have a tooth drilled." The Dentist looked at her. "Well, could you make up your mind please, so I can adjust the chair" 30 gms might be an awful lot of hops depending on which hop you used. If it's Goldings it'll be hoppy and good. If it's something New World, you could be sailing uncharted territory. The whole point of waiting 3 days before dry hopping is to let the initial fermentation die down so that the CO2 doesn't drive off the aroma. On another note, PMA, copuld you let me have an e-mail address to contact you on a matter entirely unrelated to brewing. PMA on "It's Christmas Brew Time!" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/its-christmas-brew-time#post-21397 Mon, 31 Oct 2011 00:07:33 +0000 PMA 21397@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ I like it hoppy! You sure you think it'll be ok? Out of my last three brews this ones crust has disappeared quickest, I hate this worry! It's like having a child! Nath on "It's Christmas Brew Time!" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/its-christmas-brew-time#post-21388 Sun, 30 Oct 2011 22:06:09 +0000 Nath 21388@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Don't be concerned mate if it's at room temp I'd expect that dried yeast would have done most of its main job and now the heads died down its probably 3/4s of the way through. 30g of hops - GOOD MAN! PMA on "It's Christmas Brew Time!" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/its-christmas-brew-time#post-21379 Sun, 30 Oct 2011 19:52:00 +0000 PMA 21379@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Evening gentlefolk, Dry hopped the Saracen wherry tonight <img src="http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_smile.gif" title=":)" class="bb_smilies" /> put about 30g in. Before I did so, I gently stirred the wherry with a sterilised spoon because the fermentation looks a bit too dormant to me, no krausen left at all by day three is a worry. Hope it kicks off again, bit concerned now! saracen on "It's Christmas Brew Time!" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/its-christmas-brew-time#post-21331 Fri, 28 Oct 2011 17:41:23 +0000 saracen 21331@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Hi Chibly. Those caps are a nuisance. When it's fitted you should be able to see through the translucent top of the cap whether the seal has slipped or not. If you go by Post 8 above it usually works fine. Make sure you get the seal cold. To get the groove out of the seal you may have to pour boiling water over it a couple of times. Nath on "It's Christmas Brew Time!" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/its-christmas-brew-time#post-21321 Fri, 28 Oct 2011 10:38:17 +0000 Nath 21321@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Nah, it'll be fine and dandy mate! PMA on "It's Christmas Brew Time!" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/its-christmas-brew-time#post-21318 Fri, 28 Oct 2011 09:49:21 +0000 PMA 21318@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Cheers Chibly, nice to know somene else is doing the same thing <img src="http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_smile.gif" title=":)" class="bb_smilies" /> This morning the krausen seems to have died down a bit, and the airlock isn't exactly going crazy, although it's still bubbling now and again. Bit concerned now that due to yesterday's airlock lid popping off at some undisclosed time during the day that this may have had a detrimental effect on the fermentation. I hope not... <img src="http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_sad.gif" title=":(" class="bb_smilies" /> chibly on "It's Christmas Brew Time!" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/its-christmas-brew-time#post-21310 Thu, 27 Oct 2011 20:57:54 +0000 chibly 21310@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Hi PMA I meant to post a reply last night, but did not have time. I am conditioning Saracens Wherry Mod at the moment. I also used SO4 yeast and it does go like an absolute train. It went from 1042-1016 in just under 5 days. On Saracens advice, I left it in the FV for 2 weeks and got it down to 1012, which is the lowest I have got a Wherry yet. I am having a bit of a mare with the conditioning. I think that I have failed to get a decent seal on the Keg cap seal (since I did not put the seal in boiling water and then cool to allow it to re-shape). Beer tastes great (given it is still young) but it is a bit flat. Plan to re-prime it at the weekend after I have sorted out the seal. Set me back 2 weeks on drinking it <img src="http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_sad.gif" title=":(" class="bb_smilies" /> PMA on "It's Christmas Brew Time!" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/its-christmas-brew-time#post-21308 Thu, 27 Oct 2011 20:43:11 +0000 PMA 21308@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Hmmmm, came home tonight to find a 2 inch head on my brew and the lid of my airlock halfway across the room! It's fermenting then <img src="http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_biggrin.gif" title=":D" class="bb_smilies" /> PMA on "It's Christmas Brew Time!" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/its-christmas-brew-time#post-21279 Thu, 27 Oct 2011 10:16:00 +0000 PMA 21279@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Yay! The brew is on! Everything went smoothly this morning, I'd nearly forgotten that wonderful, malty smell <img src="http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_mrgreen.gif" title=":mrgreen:" class="bb_smilies" /> I followed Mr. Saracen's tweak to the letter, so far so good. Come Sunday I'll wang the hops in and then it's that bloody awful 'waiting' part! saracen on "It's Christmas Brew Time!" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/its-christmas-brew-time#post-21256 Wed, 26 Oct 2011 16:29:47 +0000 saracen 21256@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Hi PMA. I remember you having trouble with a cap seal or the valve. They can be difficult and I find I need to replace them sometimes. You need to be very careful with the cleaning and fitting, otherwise the seal slips out of the recess, or to one side, and the gas leaks out. The seals can be hard to find, but Youngs do supply them. I have to go to a local shop as I can't find them in anything other than a pack of all sorts of seals online. This is how I do it and it is usually OK. When you take the cap off, clean it in the following way. Prise the seal out of the recess inside the cap and drop it into some water from the kettle in something like a glass measuring jug. The hot water will make the seal go back to it's original shape and any groove left by the neck of the barrel will disappear. You may have to do this a couple of times. Then give the cap itself a good dose of boiling water to clean any traces of Vaseline from inside the cap. That is, of course, if you used Vaseline to help it seal in the first place. Cool the cap and the sealing ring in the fridge/freezer, then put the ring back in the recess. Apply a THIN film of Vaseline to the SURFACE OF THE SEAL ONLY. Excess Vaseline can make the seal slip out of the groove when tightening. Make sure the cap is cold, fit it and screw it down until the seal just touches the neck, then give it a maximum of a quarter of a turn. It needs to be on firmly, but not screwed down too tight or the seal can distort. PMA on "It's Christmas Brew Time!" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/its-christmas-brew-time#post-21225 Tue, 25 Oct 2011 19:07:48 +0000 PMA 21225@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Just spoken to the mrs... my pimping kit has arrived! <img src="http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_biggrin.gif" title=":D" class="bb_smilies" /> That's me sorted for this week then, got some graphic work to do tonight but hopefully I can get onto it tomorrow! PMA on "It's Christmas Brew Time!" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/its-christmas-brew-time#post-21174 Mon, 24 Oct 2011 19:10:20 +0000 PMA 21174@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Mate, I don't really know where it all went wrong. In my opinion I don't think it was infected, it didn't taste vinegary or anything, it was probably drinkable but it just wasn't nice at all and nothing like how I expected it to taste. I did have a lot of bother with escaping Co2 and dodgy valves etc, but I managed to get that sorted in the end. Perhaps it did get contaminated at some point, especially if all the Co2 had gone out of it at some point. Oh well, you live and you learn. Next time I'll be just as careful with my prep (I am always scrupulous with my cleaning beforehand) but maybe think ahead about storage and conditioning (the fridge didn't work, I think the low temp was what made the valve contract and leak the gas in the first place). Next time I'm more likely going to have to put up with warmer beer in order to keep the Co2! saracen on "It's Christmas Brew Time!" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/its-christmas-brew-time#post-21150 Mon, 24 Oct 2011 11:13:19 +0000 saracen 21150@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Another bonus of using hot water is that quite a lot of the chalk is in your water cylinder and not in your brewing water. You'll need 65 - 80 gms of DME for priming purposes and it won't make much difference. Sugar is just as good and in such small quantities has no detremental effect, so use either. No! Not the Amarillo! What happened to it? The key to getting it right is: Be scrupulously clean. Be methodical. Be patient. Plenty of steriliser, on everything that goes near the beer, and once it's in the FV, leave the lid shut (except for dry hoppinmg) until you're ready to barrel. Forget the hydromemter. It's another potential source of infection. Check the OG when you come to barrel it by all means, but drink that bit, don't put it in the barrel. PMA on "It's Christmas Brew Time!" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/its-christmas-brew-time#post-21149 Mon, 24 Oct 2011 10:01:15 +0000 PMA 21149@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Thanks again pal, I think I'm going to go straight to FV with everything, cut out an unnessesary middleman so to speak. I remember having trouble with DME when I did the Amarillo - didn't half catch me by surprise when it all started solidifying on the bag! I'll be a bit cautious and do as you say. I never thought about boiling up already hot water! What a dingbat. I will also take heed of this advice! Ooh, just a thought - will it harm the overall effect if I take a little DME away for priming purposes later on when I barrel? That should be it for the questioning now, thanks again for youe support! I had a sad morning today - had to pour over half a barrel of Amarillo down the sink <img src="http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_sad.gif" title=":(" class="bb_smilies" /> That hurt a bit I tells ya. Fingers crossed this one turns up trumps <img src="http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_smile.gif" title=":)" class="bb_smilies" /> saracen on "It's Christmas Brew Time!" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/its-christmas-brew-time#post-21146 Mon, 24 Oct 2011 09:49:48 +0000 saracen 21146@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Hi PMA. It doesn't really matter whether it goes in a stockpot or the FV bucket. One thing you will find is that trying to add DME to boiling water is not easy. It turns to a glue all round the pack. Let the water cool off a bit and the steam subside, then stir it in. I use a balloon egg whisk and thrash it around like crazy as it goes in. So long as the stuff in the cans and the DME all end up as one solution, that's fine. I never use hop bags. The poor things have been cooped up in a bag, stored in a freezer and generally missed out on the Geneva Convention, so a bit of freedom before chucking them in the bin does no harm, and may even buy you a place in that Great Brewery in the Sky when the time comes. I scoop them all out with a sterile plastic seive before syphoning and I've never had a problem. Dunno about the yeast. It will probably be quite active. I'm waiting for someone to try a Wyeast 1968 or similar in a Wherry. That should be a good beer. Best practice, leave it all in the FV undisturbed for 2 weeks at 20°c and you'll find it's almost clear when you barrle.bottle it. I know what you mean about the kettle. I always draw hot water from the tap, even with the AG boiler. After all, I've been heating it up all night with cheap lecky, so why not cash in on it. It cuts the time down dramatically, and if you start before the cheap rate goes off, it heats up all over again! PMA on "It's Christmas Brew Time!" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/its-christmas-brew-time#post-21144 Mon, 24 Oct 2011 09:35:42 +0000 PMA 21144@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Many thanks for that Saracen - you are a legend. Regarding point number 2) - When you say FV here, are you referring to the actual FV bucket, or do you mean to use a stockpot on the stove, much like an extract brew? With my first Wherry, I boiled tap water in my kettle (about six bloody times as I only have one!) and poured that into the FV, then added the extract cans (I think it was in that order). Obviously this was before I owned a stockpot anyway. Reading back on this now, this question is probably a moot point. Secondly, I've read about gauze bags for the hops to go in to keep things a little tidier, but do you reckon I'd be ok without one? I like the idea of the hops going in as they are rather than in a giant teabag tbh. I'm interested to see how the Safale yeast cracks on with the Wherry - it went mental in my Amarillo, much more so than the Wherry yeast in the pack. Should be fun <img src="http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_smile.gif" title=":)" class="bb_smilies" /> Thanks again fella, I'll be back if anything else pops into my head! saracen on "It's Christmas Brew Time!" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/its-christmas-brew-time#post-21090 Fri, 21 Oct 2011 17:22:03 +0000 saracen 21090@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Hi PMA. Nice to see you again. I've done this so many times I keep a copy of it in Word now. Here you are. 1) Make the kit to 37 pints 2) Add 250 gms of Dried Malt Extract to the boiling water in the FV, then the cans of Malt Extract. 3) Proceed as per the Wherry instructions from here and get it all into the FV, temperature to 20°c and pitch the yeast. 4) Throw 10 to 30 gms of Goldings hops (depending on how ‘hoppy’ you like it) into the FV after 3 days when the initial (primary) fermentation has slowed and leave them there for 7 days while the beer ferments. NOTE: Yeast. I've only ever done this with the Wherry yeast, but you could have a look here and see if any of the Wyeast strains appeals to you. 1968 London ESB (Fullers strain) is always great in an English Special Bitter. <a href="http://www.wyeastlab.com/hb_yeaststrain.cfm">Wyeast Yeast Strain Guide</a> Using hops at this stage is known as “Dry Hopping” which involves adding hops to the fermenter or keg after fermentation. The technique adds the fragile aromatic oils that are normally lost in the boiling process. Dry hops are allowed to soak in the finished beer for anywhere from several days to several weeks. The result is a burst of hoppy aroma but it does not affect the bitterness of your beer. It doesn’t have to be Goldings hops. They will give you the traditional English bitter aroma, but something like Nelson Sauvin will give you a crushed gooseberry aroma, or Amarillo for a flowery, citrus aroma This method really does lift the beer and gives it a lovely hoppy 'nose'. Regarding the water, you could draw as much as you'll need in to a container, add a crushed Campden tablet and leave to stand for 24 hours before using. Alternatively, just leave to stand, or, just use it from the tap. Make sure the tap outlet is clean and give it a wipe with bleach to make sure. Bottled water is fine and if you want to go this route, use the cheapest you can find. Tesco's in 5.0 lt bottles is good, plus you end up with 5 x Demijohns for future use, or for splitting up a beer batch to experiment with different yeasts, etc. PMA on "It's Christmas Brew Time!" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/its-christmas-brew-time#post-21083 Fri, 21 Oct 2011 10:04:52 +0000 PMA 21083@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Morning all, It's that time of year where I'm going to get my Christmas brew underway! Yippee! I'm going to use my Wherry Kit (freebie from last year's Christmas present!) but I've also just ordered: 500gm Light Spraymalt Safale S-04 yeast 100gm Goldings I want to do the Saracen Wherry Pimp to really get something good to drink over the festive period. I know there is information regarding this method around here somewhere, but if anybody would be so kind as to give me a laymans terms breakdown of what to do to get it spot on I'd be really in your debt. I forget now what I did with my first Wherry, and I'm a little concerned that I haven't ordered any Campdens (although i didn't use any last time, I'm not sure if I could get a better result with them) or should I use bottled water instead? Lots of questions, lots of hope. Please let me get this right! I don't want another failure (like my Amarillo!) Thank you BrewUk folk <img src="http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_smile.gif" title=":)" class="bb_smilies" /> Loz on "Using honey/ golden syrup / herbs with a kit brew?" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/using-honey-golden-syrup-herbs-with-a-kit-brew#post-18433 Sun, 31 Jul 2011 21:03:16 +0000 Loz 18433@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Hi, I'd really like to try using honey &/or golden syrup in my kit brews. Seen a lot of info regarding extract & all grain brewing, but none for kits. Would simply priming a few bottles with it work ok? How much to use per bottle? (I've heard to go light with honey to avoid explosions!) Also I have Lovage herb growing in my garden & think it would work well with beer. Should I go for a secondary & steep it for a few days before priming? Or put it in the primary? (I suspect not...) I'm not going to risk a whole 5gallon brew with this, just a few bottles worth at first... Cheers! Nath on "New Brewer" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/new-brewer-1#post-15596 Sun, 29 May 2011 12:43:16 +0000 Nath 15596@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ The summer ale kit is great - its an extract kit tho so you will need a large stockpot to boil the ingredients with (11 ltrs+ should be fine). I will guarantee you that the summer ale extract will better any kit you will have done. It impressed me so much that after that extract kit I stopped kit brewing and bought all the all grain gear! Bernie on "New Brewer" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/new-brewer-1#post-15594 Sun, 29 May 2011 11:15:27 +0000 Bernie 15594@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ I think that I will try the summer ale kit with all the rave reviews. Might be nice to think about summer while drinking it and its pouring with rain outside! <img src="http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_biggrin.gif" title=":D" class="bb_smilies" /> Glad to hear that the lack of water treatment shouldn't affect it too much. At least its something else to go on the wish list. beerlover1983 on "New Brewer" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/new-brewer-1#post-15593 Sun, 29 May 2011 10:48:28 +0000 beerlover1983 15593@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Wherry was my first and without a campden tablet im sure it will be fine mine was.Tbh i had nothing but praise for the wherry most people couldnt belive it was a beer kit. Im tempted to do another wherry but improve it like others have done. Bernie on "New Brewer" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/new-brewer-1#post-15591 Sun, 29 May 2011 10:29:32 +0000 Bernie 15591@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Thanks for the link. Will follow the barrelling advice. Unfortunately no campden tablets. I'll have to see what untreated corporation pop does to the brew! Nath on "New Brewer" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/new-brewer-1#post-15589 Sun, 29 May 2011 09:09:00 +0000 Nath 15589@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ The last kit I did before moving to all grain was Woodfords Wherry and that was a really nice pint - just make sure the water is treated for removal of chlorine (use 1/2 a campden tablet for 5gal) and then its good to go. If you want to add a bit more zing to your kits then check this out - its not hard to do and will do EVERYTHING to a kit! <a href="http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/barrelling-wherry-question#post-11134" rel="nofollow">http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/barrelling-wherry-question#post-11134</a> - post number 7 is the one you want to look at - all credit to saracen for this - loads of people swear by it! Bernie on "New Brewer" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/new-brewer-1#post-15588 Sun, 29 May 2011 08:57:18 +0000 Bernie 15588@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Thanks Nath, Probably a lager, but maybe a summer type ale... the choices are endless! Thanks for the tip, will probably start the next one a week or two after this one has gone into the keg to keep a production line going. I did think that I would struggle to drink the 40 pints in the keg quick enough to put the next batch in, but I made the "mistake" of informing my mate who lives locally and my dad of course, and i can see 40 pints disappering quickly once its ready! My dad is very interested to see what the quality is like compared to the kits he did in the 80s. And Nath on "New Brewer" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/new-brewer-1#post-15587 Sun, 29 May 2011 08:51:02 +0000 Nath 15587@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ So whats next on the cards then? More ales...a lager...a cider??? When youve finished the beer in the keg make sure you clean it out asap otherwise the yeasty residue is way harder to clean off (plus you can fill it up faster! - Always good to have a "rolling stock") Bernie on "New Brewer" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/new-brewer-1#post-15586 Sun, 29 May 2011 08:48:43 +0000 Bernie 15586@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Hi Greg. I suspected as much, which means I will have to re-sterilise my keg then! Thanks Andrew Greg on "New Brewer" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/new-brewer-1#post-15582 Sun, 29 May 2011 08:22:20 +0000 Greg 15582@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Hi Andrew, clean for now then sterilise before using again as it won't stay sterile. Welcome to the forum <img src="http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_smile.gif" title=":-)" class="bb_smilies" /> Bernie on "New Brewer" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/new-brewer-1#post-15581 Sun, 29 May 2011 08:10:12 +0000 Bernie 15581@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Hi all, Just set up the Micro Brewery kit with the St Peter's Ruby Ale and have to say very impressed so far. Delivery just in time for the bank holiday weekend. All set up and really brought some memories of my dad doing his real ale. He can't wait to get one of his own on the go after a 20 year gap! The fermentation bin is set up and down in the cellar. At the bottom end of the recommended temp on the box (17o) for the fermenation but hope things are just a bit cold after the night. One question - after measuring the gravity using the trial jar and hydrometer, should you clean and sterilise both now, or clean for the meantime, and then sterilse before the next use? Thanks Andrew Hamish on "Can't decide on wheat beer kit" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/cant-decide-on-wheat-beer-kit#post-13640 Fri, 25 Mar 2011 20:28:30 +0000 Hamish 13640@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Both the liquid and dried wheat extracts are 55% wheat/45% barley, you can steep 250g-ish of Carapils and add that too if you like. But its the yeast thats the most important part of a wheat beer. Danstar Munich is good, haven't tried WB-06 but Wyeast 3068 will give you the most authentic Weizen. Beware though, 3068 fermentation is volcanic!. I think fermenting at 18C will give you a nice balance of clove/banana flavours if using 3068. What do you think about this?... Wheat Malt Extract 4000 grams 100% Hallertauer Hersbrucker 3 %AA 60 mins 34 grams 50% Hallertauer Hersbrucker 3 %AA 30 mins 17 grams 25% Hallertauer Hersbrucker 3 %AA 5 mins 17 grams 25% Final Volume: 23 Litres Original Gravity: 1.054 Final Gravity: 1.012 Alcohol Content: 5.4% ABV Bitterness: 15 EBU Colour: 14 EBC simonb_13 on "Can't decide on wheat beer kit" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/cant-decide-on-wheat-beer-kit#post-13617 Fri, 25 Mar 2011 12:14:39 +0000 simonb_13 13617@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Well here's a recipe for Erdinger: <a href="http://www.beertools.com/html/recipe.php?view=4378&fvu=gallons&u=metric&unitBttn=Change+Units&fv=5">Erdinger Recipe</a> Not tried the recipe so can't comment on whether it's authenticate. There aren't any instructions but I would think that you would have to steep the German Wheat Malt Light and the German Light Crystal as a specialty grain. You would also have to adjust the extract quantity if you use dried instead of liquid extract. Good luck! Hairy badger on "Can't decide on wheat beer kit" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/cant-decide-on-wheat-beer-kit#post-13615 Fri, 25 Mar 2011 11:35:55 +0000 Hairy badger 13615@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Sorry for the tardiness of this reply had a hectic week. yes Hamish I am interested in doing an extract brew as the plan is to move from kits to extract and then onto all grain using either BIAB or or more conventional methods. When i was first looking at making a wheat beer i was initially looking to make something close to Hoegaarden, but a friend at work gave me a selection of beers one of which was a wheat beer called Erdinger this and a beer called Fruh really took my fancy. Any assistance that could be given to brew either of these great beers would be great though my preference is too try and brew a wheat beer that is as close to Erdinger as possible using extract. Guidance on timing for hop additions Fermentation temps and any and all tips and tricks for wheat beer extract brewing will be gratefully received. Thanks Badger P.S. My largest pot in a heavy based 10ltr stock pot will that be sufficient? Hamish on "Can't decide on wheat beer kit" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/cant-decide-on-wheat-beer-kit#post-13446 Fri, 18 Mar 2011 21:03:51 +0000 Hamish 13446@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Welcome along, for a wheat beer I would add Noble hops, either Hallertauer, Tettnang, Spalt or Saaz. But if you're going to enhance the kit why don't you have a go at an extract brew?, we can help formulate the recipe if you like. Hairy badger on "Can't decide on wheat beer kit" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/cant-decide-on-wheat-beer-kit#post-13444 Fri, 18 Mar 2011 20:36:35 +0000 Hairy badger 13444@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Thanks for the responses and definitely intrigued by the breferm kit, can u tell me if it comes with an actual Wheat/Wit beer yeast? Also what would be the best additional sugars too add? Am i right in thinking all wheat DMW or LME or should i go 50/50 and would adding the Hallertauer Hersbrucker i got from brewuk be good or EK goldings? thanks again for ur help Badger Nath on "Can't decide on wheat beer kit" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/cant-decide-on-wheat-beer-kit#post-13436 Fri, 18 Mar 2011 20:09:38 +0000 Nath 13436@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ A big hello from me! Cant really help you on the wheat beers, they arnt really my cup of tea (or should that be mug of beer <img src="http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_confused.gif" title=":?" class="bb_smilies" /> ) Greg on "Can't decide on wheat beer kit" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/cant-decide-on-wheat-beer-kit#post-13421 Fri, 18 Mar 2011 08:35:26 +0000 Greg 13421@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Welcome to the forum! Difficult as they are all pretty good. I would probably favour the brewferm as they are from Belgium and specialise in those styles of beer. Hairy badger on "Can't decide on wheat beer kit" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/cant-decide-on-wheat-beer-kit#post-13413 Thu, 17 Mar 2011 22:08:27 +0000 Hairy badger 13413@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Hi Everyone 1st time post after reading this forum and others for a month or so as you may gather from the title looking for a good starting point for a wheat beer, have only just started brewing and my 1st two brews turned out smashing. really want to try my hand at a wheat beer but even after tralling the forums can't decide which kit or even extract recipe to go for Coopers seems popular but the Brewpaks either Brewferm Tarwebier Wheat or West riding wheat also look good any and all help and advice would be appreciated Thanks Badger Neil on "What should my Wherry taste like?" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/what-should-my-wherry-taste-like#post-9976 Thu, 16 Dec 2010 23:03:28 +0000 Neil 9976@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ James... If it tastes anything like this? Fresh and zesty with crisp floral flavours. A background of sweet malt and a hoppy ‘grapefruit’ bitter finish characterises this champion bitter (taken from the Woodfordes website) then i think you'd be on to a winner. Patience is indeed a virtue and in this great hobby of ours unfortunately you need a lot of it.... Nath on "What should my Wherry taste like?" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/what-should-my-wherry-taste-like#post-9965 Thu, 16 Dec 2010 22:05:06 +0000 Nath 9965@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Mate, you will soon find out I of all people have no patience. Its just lucky there is 40 pints to keep me going till the end! Every day is a "sample" to me! PMA on "What should my Wherry taste like?" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/what-should-my-wherry-taste-like#post-9964 Thu, 16 Dec 2010 21:58:03 +0000 PMA 9964@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Patience - I have none! I tasted another teeny drop tonight, smell and taste has improved since last night already...can't wait to pull a pint in a couple of weeks time. Even though it won't be fully ready I don't care! Christmas baby! Nath on "What should my Wherry taste like?" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/what-should-my-wherry-taste-like#post-9952 Thu, 16 Dec 2010 21:17:02 +0000 Nath 9952@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ As takethat said - Patience! Give it time, we are all too critical over a beer we have made, especially when its a few days old. Give it a few weeks before judging. <img src="http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_wink.gif" title=":wink:" class="bb_smilies" /> saracen on "What should my Wherry taste like?" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/what-should-my-wherry-taste-like#post-9942 Thu, 16 Dec 2010 20:05:48 +0000 saracen 9942@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ I haven't brewed a Wherry kit for a while but I used to do them for a friend. We tweaked it a bit and got very good results. Make the 40 pint kit to 38 pints. Add 200 gms of Dried Malt Extract. Add 5 gms of Goldings hops to the fermenter and leave them there throughout the whole fermentation. Kits do suffer from a lack of ooomphh, and this tends to brighten them up a bit. James-Dylan on "What should my Wherry taste like?" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/what-should-my-wherry-taste-like#post-9929 Thu, 16 Dec 2010 14:48:59 +0000 James-Dylan 9929@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ First time I ever brewed I was checking the FV every ten minutes after pitching my yeast and getting stressed cos it didn't start bubbling. PMA on "What should my Wherry taste like?" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/what-should-my-wherry-taste-like#post-9928 Thu, 16 Dec 2010 14:38:52 +0000 PMA 9928@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Cheers James, I'm still wet behind the ears! James-Dylan on "What should my Wherry taste like?" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/what-should-my-wherry-taste-like#post-9927 Thu, 16 Dec 2010 14:07:41 +0000 James-Dylan 9927@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ I think you're just expecting too much too soon.. It's only been in the barrel for 2 days. My memory of kits is it takes at least 2 weeks before they begin to come into their own. If you added the right volume of water and followed things as required then it will be fine. It just needs to do it's thing still as it will still be secondary fermenting / conditioning. I've never tried a wherry kit but a hear only good things about it so i'd give it time. PMA on "What should my Wherry taste like?" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/what-should-my-wherry-taste-like#post-9926 Thu, 16 Dec 2010 13:21:54 +0000 PMA 9926@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Howdy, as some of you know my first Wherry is now in the barrel, has been for a couple of days now. I drew a wee sample out this morning and it's not quite what I expected. It's rather bitter and not ad full bodied as I'd have thought it would be? Do you think I may have fluffed it somehow or am I expecting too much? Nath on "Priming/ Bottling Question" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/priming-bottling-question#post-7388 Fri, 01 Oct 2010 20:46:11 +0000 Nath 7388@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Unsure mate, Ive never done turbocider though I know ya have to be careful as Tony had some bottles explode on him (think it was ginger beer) and turbocider has a nasty habbit of continously fermentin'. Hopefully a peep will be be on here soon with the answer. beerlover1983 on "Priming/ Bottling Question" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/priming-bottling-question#post-7379 Fri, 01 Oct 2010 19:54:35 +0000 beerlover1983 7379@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Need to prime some 1tr coke bottles for turbo cider how much should i use 2 teaspoons? BarrelMonkey on "Priming/ Bottling Question" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/priming-bottling-question#post-7294 Wed, 29 Sep 2010 22:30:05 +0000 BarrelMonkey 7294@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ <blockquote>You will still need to prime if you want to bottle. I would transfer it to the keg if you want, wait a week then transfer to bottles and prime. I normally ferment for a week (plus a few days to ensure fermentation has stopped) then into a secondary (keg or fv will be fine) Batch prime the lot and bottle (eg add 80g sugar that has been boiled with a bit of the beer or water to the 2nd fv then syphon the beer in before bottling)</blockquote> So does that mean I should not bother priming it until I'm about to bottle it then? I can just transfer it into my barrel without priming, leave it another couple of weeks to clear, and then prime it and transfer straight into the bottles? Or will it need priming in order to clear properly? beerlover1983 on "Priming/ Bottling Question" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/priming-bottling-question#post-7268 Wed, 29 Sep 2010 14:28:34 +0000 beerlover1983 7268@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ <blockquote>I use the little botller on a tube now. Makes life so much easier as I can line up my bottles in a rectangle on the floor and just move the little bottler to where it needs to go! No more back ache! Yippeee! </blockquote> Going to bottle my next batch i already have the the little bottler and a 25ltr fv with tap is it a simple case of running a bit of clear hose from the fv to the bottler ? cliffgil on "Priming/ Bottling Question" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/priming-bottling-question#post-7257 Wed, 29 Sep 2010 12:27:29 +0000 cliffgil 7257@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ I've messed up then, after 2 weeks I went from Primary to primed Secondary, left another 2 weeks and bottled about a dozen, the rest I Cornelius kegged. The bottles after a week seem to have a permanent cloud, that you can see when you tilt the bottle, looks like a swirling mist, opened a few and no psst, so pours like flat beer, not sure about the taste either ( Wherry ). The keg I haven't tried yet, but I can only imagine that the forced Co2 will make it cloudy. Still no wherries. Nath on "Priming/ Bottling Question" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/priming-bottling-question#post-7253 Tue, 28 Sep 2010 23:28:28 +0000 Nath 7253@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ You will still need to prime if you want to bottle. I would transfer it to the keg if you want, wait a week then transfer to bottles and prime. I normally ferment for a week (plus a few days to ensure fermentation has stopped) then into a secondary (keg or fv will be fine) Batch prime the lot and bottle (eg add 80g sugar that has been boiled with a bit of the beer or water to the 2nd fv then syphon the beer in before bottling) BarrelMonkey on "Priming/ Bottling Question" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/priming-bottling-question#post-7252 Tue, 28 Sep 2010 22:08:16 +0000 BarrelMonkey 7252@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Hi, my first ever post and my first ever brew so I'm still learning. I have some wherry brewing right now and I want to bottle it. It is in the FV right now. I also have a pressure barrel. My plan is to leave the brew in the FV for a week or 2 until it's done its thing, then I will syphon it across into the pressure barrel, priming it with sugar and leave it for another couple of weeks whilst it clears. I then want to transfer it into bottles. The reason I want to transfer into the pressure barrel first is so that I can keep my eyes on the clearing process before I commit to my bottles. If I don't breach the pressure barrel at all until I am ready to bottle, will I still need to prime again in the bottles, or can I just pour straight from the barrel into the bottles, since the stuff coming out of the tap by then would be ready to drink? Thanks for help. nicksonic on "Priming/ Bottling Question" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/priming-bottling-question#post-6597 Mon, 13 Sep 2010 16:08:27 +0000 nicksonic 6597@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ great, thank you <img src="http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_smile.gif" title=":)" class="bb_smilies" /> Nath on "Priming/ Bottling Question" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/priming-bottling-question#post-6594 Mon, 13 Sep 2010 15:53:48 +0000 Nath 6594@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Its such a small amount it wont effect the flavour, so not to worry there then. <img src="http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_cool.gif" title="8)" class="bb_smilies" /> nicksonic on "Priming/ Bottling Question" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/priming-bottling-question#post-6588 Mon, 13 Sep 2010 14:02:20 +0000 nicksonic 6588@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ nath, a question about your reply saying that i'll need to reprime the bottles once i want to transfer the beer from the barrel - i've been using spraymalt instead of sugar to improve the flavour. if i do this twice (once for the barrel and again for the bottles) won't this affect the taste? nicksonic on "Priming/ Bottling Question" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/priming-bottling-question#post-5578 Wed, 18 Aug 2010 21:49:14 +0000 nicksonic 5578@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ sorry to hear that neil, how incredibly annoying <img src="http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_sad.gif" title=":(" class="bb_smilies" /> Neil on "Priming/ Bottling Question" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/priming-bottling-question#post-5576 Wed, 18 Aug 2010 21:17:35 +0000 Neil 5576@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Nath i hope so... Will hopefully, have some beer left by the time my bottles arrive. I might just have to drink loads of coke and bottle it that way and fast too. I am still reeling! Grrrrrr! Oh well you learn the hard way. Neil Nath on "Priming/ Bottling Question" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/priming-bottling-question#post-5574 Wed, 18 Aug 2010 20:55:01 +0000 Nath 5574@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Bummer dude, nothing worse than spilt beer. Save as much as ya can, drink it/bottle it. Ya never know, it may not be a total loss. Neil on "Priming/ Bottling Question" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/priming-bottling-question#post-5571 Wed, 18 Aug 2010 20:12:53 +0000 Neil 5571@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Actually rather than <img src="http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_sad.gif" title=":(" class="bb_smilies" /> more like :'( I am gutted! Neil on "Priming/ Bottling Question" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/priming-bottling-question#post-5570 Wed, 18 Aug 2010 20:12:12 +0000 Neil 5570@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Nath, Like Nicksonic you've answered my questions too. Thank you really appreciated that. Although looks like i may have lost one of barrels of beer.... <img src="http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_sad.gif" title=":(" class="bb_smilies" /> There was a split that appeared in it over night and it has leaked all over my kitchen work surface. I've still got some left but i suspect it will be too late to save. Neil Nath on "Priming/ Bottling Question" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/priming-bottling-question#post-5563 Wed, 18 Aug 2010 15:53:55 +0000 Nath 5563@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ <blockquote>Just note that the little bottler doesn't fit on a standard barrel tap. You'll have to butt the tap and bottler together and secure the joint. I used some insulation tape and it worked fine. </blockquote> I use the little botller on a tube now. Makes life so much easier as I can line up my bottles in a rectangle on the floor and just move the little bottler to where it needs to go! No more back ache! Yippeee! nicksonic on "Priming/ Bottling Question" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/priming-bottling-question#post-5562 Wed, 18 Aug 2010 15:46:43 +0000 nicksonic 5562@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ > You will have to re-prime the bottles though as the priming you would have done for the keg would have done its stuff by then. thanks, a key piece of info since i wouldn't have done that. and yes, i did mean barrel <img src="http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_smile.gif" title=":)" class="bb_smilies" /> cheers! simonb_13 on "Priming/ Bottling Question" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/priming-bottling-question#post-5560 Wed, 18 Aug 2010 13:42:56 +0000 simonb_13 5560@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Just note that the little bottler doesn't fit on a standard barrel tap. You'll have to butt the tap and bottler together and secure the joint. I used some insulation tape and it worked fine. Nath on "Priming/ Bottling Question" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/priming-bottling-question#post-5558 Wed, 18 Aug 2010 13:01:36 +0000 Nath 5558@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ By pressure Vessel I assume you mean keg/barrel?? If so then yes. You can drink it out of the keg and then if you want to bottle the rest when you have enough bottles then just use the little bottler on a pipe connected to the tap to fill up the bottles. You will have to re-prime the bottles though as the priming you would have done for the keg would have done its stuff by then. Remember you have to fill those bottles as soon as you have primed your beer. nicksonic on "Priming/ Bottling Question" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/priming-bottling-question#post-5556 Wed, 18 Aug 2010 10:24:07 +0000 nicksonic 5556@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ ah i see, that's very helpful. with my first brew i left it in the primary for a couple of weeks then bottled it using a syphon, which turned out to be quite messy. using the secondary and the little bottler was much more effective and took a lot less time too. i have a pressure vessel but i haven't used it so far. since i have about 50 bottles, 40 of which are conditioning my last brew, is there anything to stop me starting another brew, using the pressure vessel to bulk prime and then bottling it (by which time i'll have some free bottles)...? Nath on "Priming/ Bottling Question" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/priming-bottling-question#post-5551 Wed, 18 Aug 2010 10:17:19 +0000 Nath 5551@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ The reason to prime is to build up pressure so if you keg and prime the pressure builds in the keg as it cant escape making the beer carbonated (over time) and able to squuirt out of the tap. If you bottle the its the same thing, its under pressure thus carbonating the beer and giving you a lovely Psssst sound when you open the cap. If you prime in a secondary and leave for a few days the co2 produced will escape out of the airlock and when you put your beer into a keg or bottles it wont have any pressure build up. So if you are batch priming in a secondary (best way) then prime with the sugar soloution and then bottle immediatly. Hope this helps! Ta, Nath nicksonic on "Priming/ Bottling Question" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/priming-bottling-question#post-5539 Tue, 17 Aug 2010 13:21:17 +0000 nicksonic 5539@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ thanks for the reply greg, your response meant a late night bottling session swung into action! so for my benefit could you explain how the c02 would've escaped from the secondary? Neil on "Priming/ Bottling Question" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/priming-bottling-question#post-5529 Tue, 17 Aug 2010 08:14:11 +0000 Neil 5529@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Thanks Greg, I will be ordering the little bottler and all other stuff tomorrow. Hopefully, by Friday the beer will be in the bottles. Does it matter that it's been in the barrel for a week? Neil Greg on "Priming/ Bottling Question" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/priming-bottling-question#post-5525 Mon, 16 Aug 2010 22:40:20 +0000 Greg 5525@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Bottle straight away otherwise all the Co2 from the fermentation will escape and you're beer will be flat. The whole point of priming the bottles/keg is to get another fermentation happening but this time in a sealed environment to the Co2 produces cannot escape the will be absorbed into the beer and give it carbonation. nicksonic on "Priming/ Bottling Question" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/priming-bottling-question#post-5524 Mon, 16 Aug 2010 21:55:46 +0000 nicksonic 5524@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ hmm, so i didn't check to see if there were any replies before i went ahead :/ i boiled up the spraymalt, added it to the secondary FV then transferred the brew over (it had stopped fermenting). i have a little bottler attached to the secondary so should i leave it for a couple of days and then bottle? or bottle pretty much straight away? Neil on "Priming/ Bottling Question" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/priming-bottling-question#post-5520 Mon, 16 Aug 2010 21:37:22 +0000 Neil 5520@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Can i hijack this thread with a question of my own please? Like Delvey i am looking to bottle my beer soon. Order coming in soon Greg <img src="http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_smile.gif" title=":)" class="bb_smilies" /> I've made up the Amarillo kit and wow! I digress.... I moved the ale into my barrel and adding the priming sugar too. Obviously the co2 will have built up as it should do. However, have i peaked too soon by adding the priming sugar early? Or if i use the little bottler will it still be ok to bottle and negate the need to add priming sugar to the bottles? Sorry again Delvey for hijacking this thread.... Neil Greg on "Priming/ Bottling Question" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/priming-bottling-question#post-5504 Mon, 16 Aug 2010 18:28:29 +0000 Greg 5504@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ I do the same as Tony as I like the beer to be as clear as possible before kegging but with kits you won't get as much shite in the fermenter so its fine to just ferment in one vessel then transfer when ready to bottle. Either way your beer will turn out fine. Tony on "Priming/ Bottling Question" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/priming-bottling-question#post-5499 Mon, 16 Aug 2010 17:55:13 +0000 Tony 5499@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ I rack from primary to secondary, leave it in there for at least a week and the add priming sugar to the secondary. A week in the secondary is usually long enough for particles to be fairly well settled and they don't stir up <img src="http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_smile.gif" title=":-)" class="bb_smilies" /> simonb_13 on "Priming/ Bottling Question" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/priming-bottling-question#post-5497 Mon, 16 Aug 2010 12:51:28 +0000 simonb_13 5497@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ The priming sugar goes in to the Bottling FV not the secondary. To be honest, for your second kit, I would skip secondary fermenting. Just ferment in the primary until all fermentation has ceased. Move it to the bottling FV add the priming sugar and bottle. Secondary fermenting is not something that's needed for a kit. nicksonic on "Priming/ Bottling Question" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/priming-bottling-question#post-5496 Mon, 16 Aug 2010 12:34:12 +0000 nicksonic 5496@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ interesting question. i'm onto my second brew, the first being a wherry kit i bottled straight from the primary vessel and used normal sugar to condition. it tasted ok, not bad at all although a bit fruity/leffe like. this time i'm doing a muntons old english bitter kit and have a secondary FV, a little bottler and some spraymalt. so my question is should i add the spray malt when i move the brew to the secondary FV or a couple of days before i bottle it? cheers, nick Tony on "Priming/ Bottling Question" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/priming-bottling-question#post-5350 Wed, 11 Aug 2010 07:23:36 +0000 Tony 5350@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Good advice above! I siphon mine into a secondary and leave it in there for a week ... allows me to be sure fermentation is complete and most particles to drop out. Nath on "Priming/ Bottling Question" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/priming-bottling-question#post-5331 Tue, 10 Aug 2010 15:57:49 +0000 Nath 5331@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Like Si says the little bottler and a second fv is great, I'd grab them as you have a few days to spare. Its the easiest way to do things by far. simonb_13 on "Priming/ Bottling Question" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/priming-bottling-question#post-5330 Tue, 10 Aug 2010 14:44:10 +0000 simonb_13 5330@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ in my opinion it's much easier to bottle with another fermentation vessel fitted with a Little Bottler. Syphon from the primary FV into the the bottling FV into which you can add the priming sugar. This way you remove the beer from the yeasty deposit on the bottom of the FV before you bottle and you can bulk prime your sugar. delvey on "Priming/ Bottling Question" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/priming-bottling-question#post-5329 Tue, 10 Aug 2010 14:03:22 +0000 delvey 5329@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Hi, Just started my first kit and I have a question about priming and bottling it. I only have the one fermentation tank, and was planning to bottle from that, but all instructions say to add priming sugar to a secondary one and transfer. Is this for ease and simplicity, or can I add the sugar to my primary FV and bottle straight from it? I still have a few days to bottling, so should be enough time to grab another if needed! Thanks, dandan on "Dangarrden Lager Kit mod" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/dangarrden-lager-kit-mod#post-70 Sat, 03 Oct 2009 23:09:21 +0000 dandan 70@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ I know its mind boggleing! Greg on "Dangarrden Lager Kit mod" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/dangarrden-lager-kit-mod#post-69 Sat, 03 Oct 2009 22:42:25 +0000 Greg 69@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ There are too many things to choose from and not enough hours in the day! dandan on "Dangarrden Lager Kit mod" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/dangarrden-lager-kit-mod#post-64 Sat, 03 Oct 2009 20:24:46 +0000 dandan 64@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ I'm also planning a wheat beer! Cant decide on hops and adjuncts though! Greg on "Dangarrden Lager Kit mod" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/dangarrden-lager-kit-mod#post-61 Fri, 02 Oct 2009 22:53:40 +0000 Greg 61@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ I'm definitely planning a AG wheat beer soon. There is a great range of Wyeast available for this type of beer. I might try a fruit beer, perhaps with Raspberries. dandan on "Dangarrden Lager Kit mod" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/dangarrden-lager-kit-mod#post-58 Fri, 02 Oct 2009 21:50:52 +0000 dandan 58@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Not too bad! Would up the Corriander and Curacao Orange Peel next time. you have pour the the Hoegarrden way (Pour 2/3’s into glass, Swirl bottle (to disturb yeast bed in the bottle), Pour rest to form head) if you don't you get a clear wheat beer! makes a normal beer kit into something different! Greg on "Dangarrden Lager Kit mod" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/dangarrden-lager-kit-mod#post-56 Fri, 02 Oct 2009 20:53:37 +0000 Greg 56@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ How did this one turn out Dan? dandan on "Dangarrden Lager Kit mod" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/dangarrden-lager-kit-mod#post-49 Fri, 02 Oct 2009 19:01:40 +0000 dandan 49@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Heres how I turned a Lager kit into a Wheat beer! Ingredients: ------------ Amount Item 1000.00 gm Wheat Dry Spray Malt 1800.00 gm Lager Kit 15.00 gm Styrian Goldings [3.20 %] (15 min) 15.00 gm Saaz [2.80 %] (5 min) 3.00 tsp Coriander Seed (Boil 15.0 min) 15.00 gm Orange Peel, Bitter (Boil 15.0 min) 200.00 gm Sugar, Table (Sucrose) (2.0 EBC) 2 Pkgs Munich (Danstar) Method: ------------ Remove lid and label off the can of the larger, and soak the can in hot water to loosen the contents! Use a stock pot to dissolve the one kg of DWSM and the Sugar in three litres of boiling water. Keep the pot on the boil, add coriander seed, orange peel and Striyan Golding hops and Boil for 10 minutes. After the 10 minutes I add the Saaz hops into pot and boil for another 5 minuites. Then turn off the hob and remove all hops, seeds and peel (for simplicity you can use muslin bags or strain through a sieve) from pot. Put some cold water into sterilised fermentation bucket and add the liquid from the stock pot. Then carefully open the gordies larger kit and add to bucket and stir in using sterilised paddle/spoon. Top up the bucket to the 23L mark. Give the wort (liquid) a good stir for 5min to get air into it. Then wait till the wort gets to pitching temperature take the SG and pitch the yeast. Let it ferment for 10days (approx) or until you have a Gravity reading the same for three consecutive days. <img src="http://i560.photobucket.com/albums/ss46/dandansince1986/dangaarden2.jpg" /> <img src="http://i560.photobucket.com/albums/ss46/dandansince1986/DSC_1465.jpg" /> <img src="http://i560.photobucket.com/albums/ss46/dandansince1986/DSC_1472.jpg" /> <img src="http://i560.photobucket.com/albums/ss46/dandansince1986/DSC_1476.jpg" />