http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Brew UK Forum » Forum: Recipes - Recent Posts en Sun, 05 Feb 2012 00:39:27 +0000 http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/pseudo-lager#post-30230 Sat, 04 Feb 2012 18:39:35 +0000 Hamish 30230@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ <p>I think I&#39;ll keep this one pretty much the same Nath, just tinker with the hops. I&#39;ve got a proper lager comming up (Wyeast 2206 Bavarian Lager) after a wheat beer tomorrow, which I might call Schnee Weiss as we&#39;ve got half an inch of the stuff already.</p> <p>ihatenissanmicras, for an extract brew replace the lager malt with 2200 grams of extra light DME and replace the pudding rice with 290 grams of normal household sugar, which you add half way through the boil. Everything else is the same. </p> http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/pseudo-lager#post-30227 Sat, 04 Feb 2012 18:02:43 +0000 ihatenissanmicras 30227@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ <p>Sounds good and looks tasty as well.<br /> How would you do this as a extract?<br /> I assume it would be different amounts and times. </p> http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/pseudo-lager#post-30225 Sat, 04 Feb 2012 17:53:40 +0000 Nath 30225@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ <p>So would you redo this recipe but with a true lager yeast to see what the difference would be or is this one staying as a quick n easy lager? </p> http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/pseudo-lager#post-30206 Sat, 04 Feb 2012 13:22:35 +0000 Hamish 30206@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ <p>Good, unmistakably lager-like, I&#39;m very pleased with it but it was very cold. I keep the corny kegs in an insulated box in the shed but it couldn&#39;t have been much above freezing inside the box. I suppose I should have put the keg in the brew fridge for a while.</p> <p>The Saaz have come through well though its perhaps lacking the complexity of some German type lagers but I think thats mainly down to the yeast. I was quite cautious with the late hops but I think it could probably stand more, maybe 10 grams of Mittlefruh at 5 minutes and flameout. </p> http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/pseudo-lager#post-30164 Sat, 04 Feb 2012 10:43:27 +0000 Nath 30164@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ <p><blockquote>What was the first sample like that you tasted?</blockquote></p> <p>Same question from me! </p> http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/pseudo-lager#post-30121 Sat, 04 Feb 2012 00:26:50 +0000 Mark 30121@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ <p>Way to go Hamish<br /> What was the first sample like that you tasted?<br /> You reckon it&#39;s gonna be a goodun? </p> http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/pseudo-lager#post-30118 Sat, 04 Feb 2012 00:18:44 +0000 Hamish 30118@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ <p>Its suffering from a bit of chill haze, the shed was -0.6C when I kegged it.</p> <p>After rolling it around on the floor for 10 minutes it seems to have carbonated well, I&#39;m very pleased with this.</p> <p>Mash tun to glass in less than 14 days, marvellous!.</p> <p><img src="http://i44.tinypic.com/11jmde8.jpg"> </p> http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/harveys-sussex-best-bitter-biab-recipe#post-29932 Thu, 02 Feb 2012 15:54:24 +0000 saracen 29932@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ <p>Glad you see how it works. When I say just 1 click, what I mean is that all the boxes should be ticked as a matter of course before you save your recipe, so it&#39;s just 1 click to change the volume box. </p> http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/harveys-sussex-best-bitter-biab-recipe#post-29930 Thu, 02 Feb 2012 15:45:49 +0000 grmski 29930@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ <p>that makes sense although the total liquid measurement doesn&#39;t match those I get from the Aussie spreadsheet which I&#39;m pretty confident is good so I will keep going using the 2 sources both beer engine and the spreadsheet.</p> <p>Just ordered the ingredients for the Sussex Best and Top Dog so along with this Proper Job clone I&#39;ve plenty of brewing to do. Need to get my arse in gear and finish the new boiler tonight. </p> http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/harveys-sussex-best-bitter-biab-recipe#post-29922 Thu, 02 Feb 2012 14:08:18 +0000 saracen 29922@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ <p>Hi Grmski.</p> <p>All you need to do is put the recipe in Beer Engine, adjust it so all the figures come right, then place a tick in the Original Gravity &#39;Fix&#39; box, and a tick in the Bitterness EBU &#39;Fix&#39; box, make sure you have the &#39;%Extract&#39; by the top panel and the &#39;%EBU&#39; by the lower panel highlighted, then go to the top of the screen and amend the Volume box to whatever volume you want to finish up with and it will adjust all the ingredients but keep the ratios the same.</p> <p>Not sure how the rest goes for BIAB. </p> http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/harveys-sussex-best-bitter-biab-recipe#post-29918 Thu, 02 Feb 2012 13:11:02 +0000 grmski 29918@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ <p>I also use a spreadsheet from biabrewer in Oz that you can put the original recipe (i.e. the one you came up with) into along with the size and capacity of the boiler vessel and it will re calculate the recipe and give out a list of figures such as cool water volume needed, post boil dilution quantities, efficiences, ratio&#39;s.</p> <p>I was just playing on beer engine and thinking that It must be possible to amend some of the defaults to get most of this info out of BE. So was amending things like the liquid:grist ratio, evaporation % and wort loss to see what I could come up with. </p> <p>How does beer engine adjust volume in one click? </p> http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/harveys-sussex-best-bitter-biab-recipe#post-29917 Thu, 02 Feb 2012 12:59:25 +0000 saracen 29917@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ <p><blockquote>...... scale the recipe for biab.</blockquote></p> <p>What exactly does that mean? Is it changing the volume?<br /> If it is, Beer Engine will do that automatically for you. Just 1 click. </p> http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/harveys-sussex-best-bitter-biab-recipe#post-29916 Thu, 02 Feb 2012 12:53:06 +0000 grmski 29916@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ <p>I think I shall start running his recipes through beer engine before using them to avoid these issues in future. Right I need to get a brew on this weekend or my list of beers to brew is going to start getting very long indeed. </p> http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/harveys-sussex-best-bitter-biab-recipe#post-29913 Thu, 02 Feb 2012 12:22:56 +0000 saracen 29913@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ <p>Seems that way. Everybody makes mistakes, especially printers. It&#39;s not the first one I&#39;ve found in the book by any means, which is why I don&#39;t just follow the recipe without running it through the software. Not only do you find problems like these, but you can also update the recipe for modern AA values. Most are things like EBU coming up at 22 with 20 gms of something when you need 33 EBU and get it with 30 gms. Often the OG doesn&#39;t line up with the predicted ABV, either. </p> http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/harveys-sussex-best-bitter-biab-recipe#post-29901 Thu, 02 Feb 2012 10:25:26 +0000 grmski 29901@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ <p>Well spotted that man. If I change the hop utilisation in defaults to 36% (down from 39%) and put in his recipe It comes up with 16 ebu (low) knock the hop bill up to 50gms and its an acceptable 40 ebu. But it seems were not the first to spot this...there&#39;s a thread over on jims about it from 2010. Still at least I know what was wrong with it now &lt;img src=&quot;http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_smile.gif&quot; title=&quot;:)&quot; class=&quot;bb_smilies&quot; /&gt; <br /> I guess this goes to show that even using GW&#39;s recipes it&#39;s worthwhile being vigilant and not just blindly following them. </p> http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/harveys-sussex-best-bitter-biab-recipe#post-29892 Wed, 01 Feb 2012 22:48:57 +0000 saracen 29892@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ <p>Hi Grmski</p> <p>This will interest you. See if you get the same figures.<br /> You say you thought there was something missing?<br /> I think we&#39;ve found a massive error in the book.</p> <p><strong>Burton Bridge Top Dog Stout</strong> (From GW recipe)</p> <p>Pale Malt. 5 EBC. 3770 grams. 74.1% of Extract<br /> Torrefied Wheat. 4 EBC. 1100 grams. 19.6% of Extract<br /> Chocolate Malt. 1050 EBC. 365 grams. 6.3% of Extract</p> <p>Challenger Whole. AA 8.2% 90 mins. 20 grams. 100% of EBU</p> <p><strong>Final Volume: 23 Litres</strong><br /> Original Gravity: 1.050<br /> Final Gravity: 1.013<br /> Alcohol Content: 4.8% ABV<br /> Total Liquor: 33.5 Litres<br /> Mash Liquor: 13.1 Litres<br /> Mash Efficiency: 75 %<br /> <strong>Bitterness: 15 EBU</strong><br /> Colour: 133 EBC </p> <p>Try 50 gms of hops. </p> http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/harveys-sussex-best-bitter-biab-recipe#post-29877 Wed, 01 Feb 2012 20:16:49 +0000 grmski 29877@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ <p>That&#39;s interesting I&#39;ll be making his top dog stout again soon so will apply these figures when I come to scale the recipe for biab. When I made it before I loved the beer but felt there was something lacking it could well have been too few hops...particularly as I didn&#39;t use any software just worked out the proportions for the grist manually and then ran it through a biab recipe spreadsheet I got from an Aussie site. </p> http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/harveys-sussex-best-bitter-biab-recipe#post-29866 Wed, 01 Feb 2012 19:04:27 +0000 saracen 29866@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ <p>Hi Grmski.</p> <p>I&#39;ve been working on Beer Engine again and I&#39;ve been trying to get to the bottom of why the EBU is always too high when you put in one of Graham Wheeler&#39;s recipes. Given that the book complements the software, and he published both at the same time using the same figures, it should be identical. In his book, &quot;Brew your own British Real Ale,&quot; he gives a table of hop utilisation figuires for different SGs. His figure for a wort of 1.040 is 26.8% efficiency, yet the default in Beer Engine is 39.75%. Nothing in his table gets near that figure, and it&#39;s baffling me. What I&#39;ve done is adjust the hop efficiency in the Defaults to 36% and now I&#39;m near enough right with his recipes. I think I&#39;ll go with that for now as it seems to make everything fit together. </p> http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/harveys-sussex-best-bitter-biab-recipe#post-29849 Wed, 01 Feb 2012 14:22:23 +0000 grmski 29849@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ <p>Thanks S I will install a new copy when I get home and have a play with it this evening just to see if I can match your numbers. Essentially I&#39;m happy to go with those that you&#39;ve got from the software but for myself I&#39;d like to recreate them just as a practice exercise. </p> http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/harveys-sussex-best-bitter-biab-recipe#post-29847 Wed, 01 Feb 2012 13:49:05 +0000 saracen 29847@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ <p>I don&#39;t underestand it at all.<br /> You have 150 gms of Brown Sugar as well, which will over-prime a barrel, and 13 gms of Northern Brewer, which gives me 39 EBU, not 38.<br /> You could try downloading the program again, just in case something crept it.</p> <p><img src="http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc440/paulws1953/Hydes.jpg"> </p> http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/harveys-sussex-best-bitter-biab-recipe#post-29845 Wed, 01 Feb 2012 13:25:01 +0000 grmski 29845@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ <p>Hi Saracen,</p> <p>That&#39;s a bit odd I will go with your figures for the recipe. I didn&#39;t change anything else and didn&#39;t touch the Set Defaults. However this has been very good practice for me using Beer Engine so as well as a recipe I&#39;ve started using the software finally. </p> http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/harveys-sussex-best-bitter-biab-recipe#post-29844 Wed, 01 Feb 2012 13:11:15 +0000 saracen 29844@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ <p>Hi Grmski</p> <p>I don&#39;t understand why you have a different figure. I&#39;ve just loaded it all up agin, this time with the sugar at 3% moisture, and the figures are exactly the same. If I up the Light Brown Sugar to 350 gms I get OG 1.039 and 4.3% ABV. When I added the sugar to the database, all I did was open the grain editor, select Sugar, Household White, and edited it to read; Sugar, Light Brown and left all the figures the same. ie: Extract 375 LDK, Moisture 0% and Fermentabilty 100%, on the basis that all sugar will perform the same except for colour. The EBC values are a guess.<br /> Did you change anything in the &#39;Set Defaults&#39; menu? </p> http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/harveys-sussex-best-bitter-biab-recipe#post-29840 Wed, 01 Feb 2012 12:04:15 +0000 grmski 29840@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ <p>Hi Saracen,</p> <p>Trying to re create your figures in Beer Engine (finally got this to function on my work PC) and I couldn&#39;t match your figure for the Light Brown Sugar. This is what I&#39;ve got out of it I&#39;m not sure why it&#39;s telling me to add an extra 100g of the Light Brown Sugar though. I did have to enter this into the Editor and put the values at 100% fermentable and 3% Moisture would this have an impact?</p> <p>Harveys Sussex Best Bitter </p> <p>Fermentable Colour Grams Ratio<br /> Pale Malt 5 EBC 3000 grams 78.20%<br /> Flaked Maize 0 EBC 250 grams 6.80%<br /> Light Brown Sugar 10 EBC 350 grams 10.80%<br /> Brown Sugar 25 EBC 135 grams 4.30% </p> <p>Hop Variety Type Alpha Time grams Ratio<br /> Golding Whole 5.70% 90 mins 32 grams 58%<br /> Northern Brewer Whole 10.50% 90 mins 13 grams 42%<br /> Golding Whole 5.70% 0 mins 15 grams 0%</p> <p>Final Volume: 23 Litres<br /> Original Gravity: 1.038<br /> Final Gravity: 1.006<br /> Alcohol Content: 4.10% ABV<br /> Total Liquor: 31.6 Litres<br /> Mash Liquor: 8.1 Litres<br /> Mash Efficiency: 75 %<br /> Bitterness: 38 EBU<br /> Colour: 8 EBC </p> http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/harveys-sussex-best-bitter-biab-recipe#post-29836 Wed, 01 Feb 2012 09:29:14 +0000 grmski 29836@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ <p>First apologies for the delay replying. Thanks Saracen I will take your advise for the dry hop. The cask abv is 4.1% so I&#39;m happy with the recipe you&#39;ve created here.<br /> I didn&#39;t use any software I was at work and was trying to do this with a pen and paper and websites. I thought hop utilisation was typically from 20 - 30 % o went the middle figure.</p> <p>Goliath if your dad was old enough to drink whilst in town he&#39;ll know the beer. You can&#39;t miss the brewery it sits on the river running through a pedestrianised town centre lovely old building on a cold morning the steam coming out of the boiler chimney is a beautiful sight.</p> <p>Vsat boiler will be the first trial of my new self build biab boiler. It&#39;s a 60 ltr plastic barrel with a 3kw 240v immersion element. I&#39;d had enough of diluting post boil and do decided to build my own big enough to big beer lengths without dilution. </p> <p>Thanks for the input lads I will take a bottle of this to the pub and o a taste and picture test and post my feedback.</p> <p>Grmski </p> http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/harveys-sussex-best-bitter-biab-recipe#post-29804 Tue, 31 Jan 2012 21:46:06 +0000 saracen 29804@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ <p>Hi Grmski</p> <p>Well, I&#39;ve done it. I got some really off-the-wall figures, but there&#39;s nothing unusual about that when it comes to converting Dave Line&#39;s recipes. It started off at 3.2% ABV and 69 IBU! The resipe was for 25 lts, but cutting it to 23 and including the priming sugar got it up to 4.1% ABV. I can&#39;t tell what hop AA figures he was using, but the shop has Goldings (East Kent are probably better) at 5.7% AA and Northern Brewer at 10.5% AA, so those are the figures I&#39;ve used at the normal utilisation Beer Engine defaults to. It&#39;s all done as a 90 minute mash and a 90 minute boil. All the hops go in at the beginning and Dave doesn&#39;t list any late additions. Personally, I think I&#39;d use 15 gms of Goldings post-boil.</p> <p>Pale Malt. 5 EBC. 3000 grams. 78.1% of Extract<br /> Flaked Maize. 0 EBC. 250 grams. 6.8% of Extract<br /> Sugar, Light Soft Brown. 10 EBC. 250 gram.s 10.8% of Extract<br /> Sugar, Brown. 25 EBC. 100 grams. 4.3% of Extract (Priming Sugar)</p> <p>Northern Brewer Whole. AA 10.5%. 90 mins. 13 grams. 41.8% of EBU<br /> Golding EKG Whole. AA 5.7%. 90 mins. 32 grams. 58.2% of EBU</p> <p>Final Volume: 23 Litres<br /> Original Gravity: 1.038<br /> Final Gravity: 1.006<br /> Alcohol Content: 4.1% ABV<br /> Total Liquor: 31.6 Litres<br /> Mash Liquor: 8.1 Litres<br /> Mash Efficiency: 75 %<br /> Bitterness: 38 EBU<br /> Colour: 7 EBC </p> <p>If you can get an ABV for the pub version we might get closer, but this will give a good beer and the accuracy depends on how close Dave Line was 35 years ago, and how much the recipe has been changed by the brewery since. </p> http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/harveys-sussex-best-bitter-biab-recipe#post-29798 Tue, 31 Jan 2012 21:05:44 +0000 Goliath 29798@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ <p>My Dad grew up in Lewes! I&#39;ve been there several times, never been drinking though. I&#39;ll ask him if he knows it! </p> http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/harveys-sussex-best-bitter-biab-recipe#post-29787 Tue, 31 Jan 2012 19:22:01 +0000 saracen 29787@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ <p>Hi Grmski</p> <p>I think you&#39;re a way out with that, especially the Hop AA figures. I have Dave Line&#39;s book and there&#39;s a recipe in it for &#39;Harveys (Lewes) Best Bitter&#39; that makes 5 gallons. It&#39;s basically the same as yours but the quantities are different. I&#39;m about to have my dinner, but give me an hour or so and I&#39;ll convert it in Beer Engine and post it for you. </p> http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/harveys-sussex-best-bitter-biab-recipe#post-29779 Tue, 31 Jan 2012 15:33:54 +0000 VSat 29779@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ <p>Not sure what boiler you have, but based on that weight of grain I would expect you to get around 23l in the FV, but then again I use a buffalo and the boil may not be as fierce as yours.</p> <p>Why 25% for the hop utilisation? Seems low, but not sure what software you used. Also check your AA as Goldings are normally less than Northern Brewer &lt;img src=&quot;http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_smile.gif&quot; title=&quot;:-)&quot; class=&quot;bb_smilies&quot; /&gt; </p> http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/harveys-sussex-best-bitter-biab-recipe#post-29770 Tue, 31 Jan 2012 13:23:33 +0000 grmski 29770@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ <p>Hi folks,</p> <p>I am planning a clone of Harveys Sussex Best which is the no 1 beer down here in Lewes. I am struggling to find an exact recipe but from scouring the net I have come up with this, I think the base recipe came from Dave Lines old brewing book and I have amended this in terms of yeast, grain and hop quantities. Now not being very experienced in recipe formulation I&#39;d appreciate any comments that the (and don&#39;t I use the word lightly) genius&#39; on this site have.<br /> Yeast is an issue as Harveys use their own strain and I don&#39;t have it so am thinking to go with Wyeast 1318 (London Ale III) anyone have experience with this?</p> <p>I will be using the biab method to brew this which will involve mashing the grain at 66c in 32 ltr of water for 90 mins. Followed by removing and draining the bag of grist and then conducting the boil as standard to end up with 19 ltr into bottles after fermentation.</p> <p>&#39;Harvey&#39;s Sussex Best Bitter&#39; </p> <p>3.1 kg (85%) Crushed Maris Otter Pale Malt Barley<br /> 275 g (7.5%) Flaked Maize<br /> 275 g (7.5%) Light Brown Sugar<br /> 18g Goldings Hops (10.5% aa)<br /> 9g Northern Brewers hops (5.9% aa)<br /> 1tsp Irish Moss<br /> WYEAST STRAIN: 1318  |  London Ale III™ </p> <p>OG 1041 ( 23l)<br /> SG 1010<br /> 30-35 ibu (based on 25% hop utilization)<br /> 4.1% abv<br /> 19 ltr </p> <p>Bring water to 60*C and add crushed malt and flakes<br /> Raise to 66*C &amp; mash for 90 min<br /> Disolve sugar in a little hot water<br /> Boil wort and add hops &amp; sugar and boil for 1.5 hours.<br /> Pitch irish moss as per instructions<br /> Ferment until SG reaches 1010 and rack to secondary.<br /> Disolve gelatin finings into hot water and add to secondary whilst racking<br /> Leave for 7 days<br /> Rack beer off sediment into keg or bottles and carbonate (use dissolved brown sugar for bottle carbonation)<br /> Leave in bottles for 7 days to condition before sampling. </p> http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/wye-valley-dorothy-good-body-query#post-29755 Mon, 30 Jan 2012 23:14:16 +0000 saracen 29755@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ <p>Hi there.</p> <p>This would be very difficult without a recipe. We need the colour and EBU at the very least.<br /> We thought Amber Malt couldn&#39;t be steeped, but Hamish contacted a brewer who said it steeps perfectly well. You can substitue Wheat Malt Extract for Wheat Malt, but you have to reduce the DME accordingly as Wheat Malt Extract is 50/50 Barley &amp; Wheat.</p> <p>Flaked Barley:</p> <p><blockquote>Flaked unmalted barley is often used in Stouts to provide protein for head retention and body.</blockquote></p> <p>Caramalt:</p> <p><blockquote>greatly improves body, foam retention and beer stability whilst adding little colour</blockquote></p> <p>Maybe? It also might be worth doing a mini-mash with the Wheat Malt and the Flaked Barley by bringing a corresponding quantity of water to the boil in a saucepan, let it cool to about 70°c, stir in the grains and leave it for 90 minutes. From there, proceed as Extract. </p> http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/wye-valley-dorothy-good-body-query#post-29753 Mon, 30 Jan 2012 21:36:29 +0000 Nath 29753@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ <p>I dont think you can steep amber, barley or wheat though...... </p> http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/lady-murasaki-pale-japanese-session-ale#post-29746 Mon, 30 Jan 2012 21:02:27 +0000 Nath 29746@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ <p>Coolest name of hops. EVER. &lt;img src=&quot;http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_cool.gif&quot; title=&quot;8)&quot; class=&quot;bb_smilies&quot; /&gt; </p> http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/wye-valley-dorothy-good-body-query#post-29744 Mon, 30 Jan 2012 20:58:24 +0000 Nath 29744@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ <p>Looking here for a few ideas on malt/hop combos - <a href="http://www.beer-pages.com/protz/tasting/wye.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.beer-pages.com/protz/tasting/wye.htm</a></p> <p><blockquote>Wye Valley, Dorothy Goodbody’s Country Ale (England)<br /> (RP) This is the same beer in two formats, sold seasonally as &#39;Christmas Ale&#39; - and Ms Goodbody looks especially appealing is her peek-a-boo Santa outfit. The strong ale is brewed with Maris Otter pale, crystal and amber malts with wheat malt and flaked barley. The hops are Bramling Cross and Fuggles. A splendid companion for tangy English cheeses, the beer has a ripe aroma of pear drops and ripe malt. Peppery hops make their presence felt in the mouth, balanced by a malt/toffee note. The finish is fruit and hoppy with a powerful underpinning of rich fruits. 6.0% ABV, 50cl, £1.99, brewery website, quite widely available</blockquote></p> <p>Not near my pc yet, but other may be able to help on a recipe. Food for thought???!?!?!?! </p> http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/wye-valley-dorothy-good-body-query#post-29740 Mon, 30 Jan 2012 20:01:02 +0000 Newgale 29740@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ <p>Hi all, just wondered if anyone has any ideas for a wye valley dorothy goodbody&#39;s country ale recipe malt extract brew? Thanks </p> http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/lady-murasaki-pale-japanese-session-ale#post-29735 Mon, 30 Jan 2012 18:29:46 +0000 saracen 29735@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ <p>You should reach your target of 1.010 with Ringwood, but 72% is right at the top of it&#39;s attenuation. Keep rousing. It&#39;s going to leave it quite sweet. I wonder if something a bit more neutral, like S-04, might be an option next time?</p> <p>Also, in light of our recent discussions about Campden tablets, 2 might be a bit over the top. Graham Wheeler wrote something and most now seem to think 1/2 a tablet in 25 lts is plenty. </p> http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/lady-murasaki-pale-japanese-session-ale#post-29728 Mon, 30 Jan 2012 14:22:47 +0000 Matty 29728@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ <p>Wyeast 1187 Ringwood Ale, simply because I had it in the fridge and it needed using pronto. Never used it before, and no idea if it&#39;ll complement or clash with the style of beer. </p> http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/lady-murasaki-pale-japanese-session-ale#post-29721 Mon, 30 Jan 2012 13:27:32 +0000 saracen 29721@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ <p>Comgratulations on the new arrival, Matty.<br /> For the beer, you&#39;re in uncharted territory for me. Good luck, and let us know how it goes.<br /> What yeast are you planning on using? </p> http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/lady-murasaki-pale-japanese-session-ale#post-29717 Mon, 30 Jan 2012 11:37:33 +0000 Matty 29717@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ <p>My first recipe in *ages* (due mostly to the birth of our new little assistant brewer Joseph).</p> <p>I&#39;ve gone against my usual strong-beer tendencies and attempted to create a session ale rather than a head-cracker.</p> <p>Grain:<br /> 2800g Maris Otter Pale Malt<br /> 500g Pale Wheat Malt<br /> 250g Cooked White Rice<br /> 150g Light Crystal<br /> 100g Torrified Wheat</p> <p>Hops:<br /> Sorachi Ace [14.9%] - 5g - 90 minutes (First Wort Hops)<br /> Sorachi Ace [14.9%] - 10g - 20 minutes<br /> Sorachi Ace [14.9%] - 55g - 5 Minutes</p> <p>Profile:<br /> Original Gravity 1.036<br /> Estimated Final Gravity 1.010<br /> Estimated Abv: 3.4%<br /> Bitterness: 39.8 IBU<br /> Colour: 8.5 EBC</p> <p>Full details: <a href="http://beerkitchen.blogspot.com/2012/01/lady-murasaki-pale-japanese-session-ale.html">Lady Murasaki - Pale Japanese Session Ale</a> </p> http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/pseudo-lager#post-29589 Sat, 28 Jan 2012 17:11:11 +0000 Nath 29589@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ <p>I hear ya guys, Ive yet to brew this year and my yummy pale and nice mildly-stout is all gone. Bad times. </p> http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/pseudo-lager#post-29585 Sat, 28 Jan 2012 16:06:42 +0000 Goliath 29585@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ <p>I need to do another brew, I&#39;m well on my way to running out in the Spring! </p> http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/pseudo-lager#post-29580 Sat, 28 Jan 2012 15:30:59 +0000 Hamish 29580@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ <p>It was a stock control issue. </p> http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/pseudo-lager#post-29576 Sat, 28 Jan 2012 15:19:22 +0000 saracen 29576@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ <p><blockquote>I&#39;ve only got 8 bottles of home brew left</blockquote></p> <p>Was it a good party?...... or a glitch in the stock control. </p> http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/pseudo-lager#post-29570 Sat, 28 Jan 2012 14:57:19 +0000 Goliath 29570@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ <p>Ahh I see... I&#39;m working on temp control at the moment, am going to get one of those controller things next time I get paid. As for the corny, I&#39;m going to stick with bottles for now. I don&#39;t mind waiting really, it&#39;d just be nice to reap the rewards a bit sooner sometimes &lt;img src=&quot;http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_smile.gif&quot; title=&quot;:)&quot; class=&quot;bb_smilies&quot; /&gt; </p> <p>Hope it&#39;s good for you! </p> http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/pseudo-lager#post-29560 Sat, 28 Jan 2012 13:28:23 +0000 Hamish 29560@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ <p>Thanks Goliath.</p> <p>Lets see how it turns out. If you want a quick brew you&#39;ll have to force it, so that means temp control and corny kegs (nothing to do with full mash, you could do this as an extract brew, just use DME and sugar.) but its not necessarily the way to produce the best beer.</p> <p>I&#39;ve only got 8 bottles of home brew left so as long as it turns out to be beer I&#39;ll be happy. </p> http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/pseudo-lager#post-29557 Sat, 28 Jan 2012 13:11:34 +0000 Goliath 29557@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ <p>Nice one, Hamish!<br /> Sounds like a good recipe. I&#39;ve always wanted a beer that is ready quickly, I&#39;m always disappointed when I try them after 3 weeks (so far). My thinking is, it&#39;s probably down to keg conditioning and AG? At the moment I&#39;m using extracts and bottling.</p> <p>Also, I used the Nottingham yeast once and thought it was great too! </p> http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/pseudo-lager#post-29555 Sat, 28 Jan 2012 12:58:22 +0000 Hamish 29555@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ <p>Well, its done, Nottingham really is a fantastic yeast.</p> <p>Very pleased with the initial taster, much more lager-like than the previous attempt.</p> <p>Dropped the temperature to 10°C and will probably rack it on Monday when it&#39;ll go back in the fridge. I may drop the temp further so when it goes into the corny it&#39;ll absorb the co2 better. Could be drinking this a week tomorrow if I get the carbonation right. </p> http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/experimental-imperial-stout#post-29506 Fri, 27 Jan 2012 00:19:26 +0000 paul 29506@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ <p>Cheers pal, i was being a little facetious about the conditioning, i hate waiting for beer as i am sure most on here do. As for the next brew i have some sorachi ace and citra hops so gonna use them for something. Hav&#39;nt used either before but i really like Oakhams Citra beer and sorachi ace is supposed to be a bit lemony so i think they may go together fairly well.<br /> Oh and of course i want to get in on this proper job comp that i have read so much about. </p> http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/news-flash-proper-job-comp#post-29483 Thu, 26 Jan 2012 21:40:20 +0000 Tebb 29483@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ <p>Proper job can be purchased at Duncan Murray wines in Market Harborough which is in Leicestershire . I tried this last summer after a really shitty day at work and that was forgotten about by the time a got half way down the glass. Truly a wonderful premium iPa. I learnt a very valuable lesson that evening and that was never buy only 1 bottle of the stuff, so bloody morish... : </p> http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/news-flash-proper-job-comp#post-29473 Thu, 26 Jan 2012 20:19:57 +0000 grmski 29473@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ <p>C&#39;mon beer lover do it. Ur ahead of me I haven&#39;t even tried the beer yet! </p> http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/news-flash-proper-job-comp#post-29471 Thu, 26 Jan 2012 20:16:31 +0000 beerlover1983 29471@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ <p>Juat drinking my first proper job .Wow what can i say thats one hell of a beer im in love very nice.</p> <p>Wish i had the skill to enter this comp. </p> http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/experimental-imperial-stout#post-29458 Thu, 26 Jan 2012 18:38:03 +0000 Nath 29458@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ <p>Crackin&#39; pics mate. But how can you look forward to conditioning, and what are you brewing next??? </p> http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/experimental-imperial-stout#post-29449 Thu, 26 Jan 2012 16:48:37 +0000 paul 29449@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ <p>Hi got this one fermenting away now so thought i would just share a couple of pics from the brew day. </p> <p><img src="http://img600.imageshack.us/img600/760/sl370001.jpg"><br /> the mash</p> <p><img src="http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/2033/sl370005.jpg"><br /> the boil (sorry you cant see much apart from steam)</p> <p><img src="http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/4412/sl370007.jpg"><br /> Transferring the cooled wort</p> <p><img src="http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/6748/sl370009.jpg"><br /> after 2 days fermenting</p> <p>Obviously now i am looking forward to the months and months of conditioning. </p> http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/old-peculiar-extract-recipe-wanted#post-29345 Wed, 25 Jan 2012 20:35:17 +0000 saracen 29345@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ <p>Hi Iceman.</p> <p>This is taken fronm Graham Wheeler&#39;s book and it&#39;s just about spot on with the specifications. I&#39;ve adjusted the amounts of hops in line with current AA values to maintain the Hop EBU ratio so the recipe is as near as it&#39;s possible to get to GW&#39;s original.</p> <p>It uses Styrian Goldings for Dry Hopping but ordinary East Kent Goldings will be just as good. Use 5 gms more if using EKG.</p> <p>Check the Alpha Acid figures on your hop packs. They have been varying a lot lately. If they are very different to the figures I have here, let me know and I&#39;ll sdjust the recipe. The values I&#39;ve used are Challenger AA 8.2%, Fuggles AA 4.9% and East Kent Goldings AA 5.7%.</p> <p>This is formulated for a full 23 lt boil. If you are boiling a smaller quantity, say 8.0 lts, use only 1.2 KG of Dried Malt Extract in the initial boil and add the rest at the end of the boil.</p> <p>The colour is right but you need to use both extracts to get it right. If you want you can use all Light DME but it will be a little dark.</p> <p>Note the 75 minute boil.</p> <p>Dried Malt Extract Pale. 10 EBC. 1770 grams<br /> Dried Malt Ext. Xtra Pale. 5.5 EBC. 1770 grams<br /> Crystal Malt. 130 EBC. 295 grams<br /> Chocolate Malt. 1050 EBC. 215 grams</p> <p>Yeast: S-04, Wyeast 1098 or WLP 007</p> <p>Challenger Whole. AA 8.2% 75 mins. 25 grams<br /> Fuggle Whole. AA 4.9% 75 mins. 15 grams<br /> Golding EKG Whole. AA 5.7%. 10 mins. 14 grams<br /> Styrian Goldings (Celia) Whole. AA 4.2%. 0 mins. 10 grams 0% </p> <p>Final Volume: 23 Litres<br /> Original Gravity: 1.058<br /> Final Gravity: 1.014<br /> Alcohol Content: 5.7% ABV<br /> Bitterness: 29 EBU<br /> Colour: 95 EBC </p> http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/old-peculiar-extract-recipe-wanted#post-29272 Wed, 25 Jan 2012 15:21:55 +0000 oldbrewer 29272@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ <p>I did Old Peculier from GW&#39;s book. Just finished condioning in the bottles and has turned out extreamly good. I used the extract version wityh 50% DME. </p> http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/old-peculiar-extract-recipe-wanted#post-29214 Wed, 25 Jan 2012 09:37:43 +0000 IPA 29214@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ <p>Hi there is an extract recipe for OLD PECULIER in Dave lines book BREWING BEERS LIKE THOSE YOU BUY. I have not tried it but have tried lots of others in the book and they all tasted good. </p> http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/pseudo-lager#post-28969 Mon, 23 Jan 2012 21:42:57 +0000 Hamish 28969@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ <p>Fermenting nicely between 13 &amp; 14°C. </p> http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/news-flash-proper-job-comp#post-28961 Mon, 23 Jan 2012 20:27:38 +0000 Nath 28961@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ <p>Just gave Greg a quick message on this and he should have some details up soon for us all....</p> <p>Cant wait to do this, Imagine brewing Proper Job at St Austell Brewery.</p> <p>Uber cool &lt;img src=&quot;http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_cool.gif&quot; title=&quot;8)&quot; class=&quot;bb_smilies&quot; /&gt; </p> http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/news-flash-proper-job-comp#post-28819 Mon, 23 Jan 2012 02:10:16 +0000 seamus48 28819@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ <p>That&#39;s like asking what does an apple taste like, or a banana, or a mango, they&#39;re all fruit but could you <em>really</em> describe the difference between &#39;em for someone who has never been there? It&#39;s a lovely brew IMHO and you ought to try to find one... or I will send you one &lt;img src=&quot;http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_smile.gif&quot; title=&quot;:-)&quot; class=&quot;bb_smilies&quot; /&gt; </p> http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/news-flash-proper-job-comp#post-28745 Mon, 23 Jan 2012 00:44:39 +0000 Mark 28745@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ <p>Never tasted proper job Seamus wots it like? </p> http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/news-flash-proper-job-comp#post-28723 Mon, 23 Jan 2012 00:17:22 +0000 seamus48 28723@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ <p>Ah... Ok... </p> <p>Brew up or shut up Loretta... &lt;img src=&quot;http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_mrgreen.gif&quot; title=&quot;:mrgreen:&quot; class=&quot;bb_smilies&quot; /&gt; </p> http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/news-flash-proper-job-comp#post-28714 Mon, 23 Jan 2012 00:07:39 +0000 Mark 28714@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ <p>Seamus - ALI was 70 last week and the greatest boxer of all time, he used to wind all the opponents up and come out with alot of Bull, hence i compared you to him. &lt;img src=&quot;http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_biggrin.gif&quot; title=&quot;:D&quot; class=&quot;bb_smilies&quot; /&gt; </p> http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/news-flash-proper-job-comp#post-28712 Mon, 23 Jan 2012 00:04:23 +0000 saracen 28712@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ <p>I&#39;ve order a special yeast from Norway that ferments down to 14°c and is guaranteed to get 88% attenuation. That definitely won&#39;t be sweet. Bloody hard to find, though. </p> http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/news-flash-proper-job-comp#post-28707 Sun, 22 Jan 2012 23:58:19 +0000 seamus48 28707@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ <p>What the ferk&#39;s an ALI? &lt;img src=&quot;http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_eek.gif&quot; title=&quot;8O&quot; class=&quot;bb_smilies&quot; /&gt; </p> http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/news-flash-proper-job-comp#post-28706 Sun, 22 Jan 2012 23:56:34 +0000 Mark 28706@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ <p>YES i know it does but i know it&#39;s a favourite of yours.</p> <p> Saracen take no notice of Seamus&#39;s usual gumph he just trying to do an ALI on you &lt;img src=&quot;http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_cool.gif&quot; title=&quot;8)&quot; class=&quot;bb_smilies&quot; /&gt; </p> http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/news-flash-proper-job-comp#post-28705 Sun, 22 Jan 2012 23:55:33 +0000 saracen 28705@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ <p>I still can&#39;t get hold of any. There seems to be a few online sellers, but none of the supermarkets have any at all. Tribute, yes, all over the place, but no PJ. </p> http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/news-flash-proper-job-comp#post-28702 Sun, 22 Jan 2012 23:54:17 +0000 seamus48 28702@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ <p>No... it ain&#39;t sweet... believe me &lt;img src=&quot;http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_eek.gif&quot; title=&quot;8O&quot; class=&quot;bb_smilies&quot; /&gt; </p> http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/news-flash-proper-job-comp#post-28700 Sun, 22 Jan 2012 23:52:18 +0000 saracen 28700@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ <p>No. Not enough attenuation. Leaves the beer too sweet. </p> http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/news-flash-proper-job-comp#post-28699 Sun, 22 Jan 2012 23:51:53 +0000 seamus48 28699@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ <p>The girl is a St Austell brewer... or at least she knows a couple... intimately &lt;img src=&quot;http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_eek.gif&quot; title=&quot;8O&quot; class=&quot;bb_smilies&quot; /&gt; ... either way I think I&#39;m closer to the original yeast strain than you are.... MWahhaaa Haaa Ha.... &lt;img src=&quot;http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_mrgreen.gif&quot; title=&quot;:mrgreen:&quot; class=&quot;bb_smilies&quot; /&gt; </p> http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/news-flash-proper-job-comp#post-28698 Sun, 22 Jan 2012 23:50:21 +0000 Mark 28698@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ <p>1968????????? </p> http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/news-flash-proper-job-comp#post-28697 Sun, 22 Jan 2012 23:50:06 +0000 johnh 28697@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ <p>Well its been 1 week since greg last posted about base recipe...maybe he is still trying to sort something out for the extract brewers....i&#39;ll leave it to the experienced brewers because for one i wouldn&#39;t know where to start myself or be able to get down to the brewery anyhow if i was lucky enough to win!...ha.ha..(Hmmm...i wonder what the odds of every other brewer on this site being killed?)...thats not gonna happen...(unless Seamus48 brings his &#39;Weapon of Choice&#39; home from work)...but the best of luck to all who enter and hopefully someone will come close to the &#39;PJ&#39;...win the competition...have the most fantastic day/experience in the brewery... pass on the recipe...(converted for extract obviously)...and greg to sell the &#39;Kit&#39;....job done!...(or should that be &#39;Proper&#39; job done!...)<br /> Will definately buy the kit tho...Good luck everybody who enters...<br /> might just have a real one now....got 8 bottles of the stuff.....yuummm..yuummm.. </p> http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/news-flash-proper-job-comp#post-28695 Sun, 22 Jan 2012 23:48:10 +0000 saracen 28695@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ <p>God Almighty, Seamus! When were you in St Austell?</p> <p>There was some talk of cultivating the yeast from a bottle of PJ, and although Roger was quoted as saying the conditioning yeast is the main brewery yeast, I still have my doubts. Brewers just don&#39;t say things like that. I know which yeast I&#39;m going for. </p> http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/news-flash-proper-job-comp#post-28691 Sun, 22 Jan 2012 23:43:39 +0000 seamus48 28691@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ <p>Yeast ain&#39;t a problem for me... I made a starter off the pants of a girl from St Austell... It don&#39;t get much more authentic than that... that stuff is WILD! &lt;img src=&quot;http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_eek.gif&quot; title=&quot;8O&quot; class=&quot;bb_smilies&quot; /&gt; </p> http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/news-flash-proper-job-comp#post-28690 Sun, 22 Jan 2012 23:40:16 +0000 saracen 28690@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ <p>Post 10 talks about a sample recipe, but I don&#39;t think Greg had decided anything at that point.<br /> I think the plan was to leave the research alrady done into it on the forum, and publish some clues from St Austell.<br /> I might be wrong.<br /> Incidentally, Outlaw&#39;s idea has already been thought about. </p> http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/news-flash-proper-job-comp#post-28689 Sun, 22 Jan 2012 23:40:14 +0000 outlaw 28689@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ <p>have a go guys , this forum seems not to be helpin the would be and homebrewers anymore ,ITS ALL ABOUT THIS BEER PROPER JOB it seems and dont forgot the one word and movie games &lt;img src=&quot;http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_lol.gif&quot; title=&quot;:lol:&quot; class=&quot;bb_smilies&quot; /&gt; </p> http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/news-flash-proper-job-comp#post-28678 Sun, 22 Jan 2012 23:15:08 +0000 simonb_13 28678@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ <p>Hi y&#39;all</p> <p>When is this going to kick off?</p> <p>I&#39;m holding back on my next brew so I can participate. </p> http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/news-flash-proper-job-comp#post-28669 Sun, 22 Jan 2012 22:33:32 +0000 kilconlea 28669@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ <p>So I&#39;m not going mad! thought that&#39;s what&#39;d been said.<br /> +1 to your kit question. </p> http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/news-flash-proper-job-comp#post-28667 Sun, 22 Jan 2012 22:30:25 +0000 seamus48 28667@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ <p>Ha... thought there would be one... &lt;img src=&quot;http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_mrgreen.gif&quot; title=&quot;:mrgreen:&quot; class=&quot;bb_smilies&quot; /&gt; </p> <p>By the way, I <em>thought</em> we had sort of agreed to all work to a common recipe? Am I mistaken? Any tips from Greg and is he doing a quick extract kit of all the ingredients we need to encourage participation? </p> http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/news-flash-proper-job-comp#post-28666 Sun, 22 Jan 2012 22:25:53 +0000 outlaw 28666@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ <p>i know what ill do :evil:, ill buy a bottle proper job,, empty it into one of my brown 500ml bottles cap it and send it in to the comp , &lt;img src=&quot;http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_lol.gif&quot; title=&quot;:lol:&quot; class=&quot;bb_smilies&quot; /&gt; </p> http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/news-flash-proper-job-comp#post-28649 Sun, 22 Jan 2012 21:40:41 +0000 seamus48 28649@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ <p>It is genuinely lush IMHO... but everyone has their own taste buds... &lt;img src=&quot;http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_smile.gif&quot; title=&quot;:-)&quot; class=&quot;bb_smilies&quot; /&gt; </p> http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/news-flash-proper-job-comp#post-28648 Sun, 22 Jan 2012 21:39:22 +0000 Technotrucker 28648@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ <p>I&#39;ve never had PJ, but if possible I&#39;d like to give it ago..fill the numbers out. </p> http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/news-flash-proper-job-comp#post-28624 Sun, 22 Jan 2012 20:32:56 +0000 saracen 28624@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ <p>That&#39;s to come in the future, but if the winnig recipe is a good clone, and the author is willing to share it, I don&#39;t see why not. There doesn&#39;t seem to be anything in PJ that can&#39;t be replicated with Extract. </p> http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/news-flash-proper-job-comp#post-28620 Sun, 22 Jan 2012 20:26:21 +0000 kilconlea 28620@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ <p>......... and will that recipe be available as a kit? </p> http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/news-flash-proper-job-comp#post-28619 Sun, 22 Jan 2012 20:25:25 +0000 saracen 28619@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ <p>As far as I know all the hops are in stock. No, there isn&#39;t a recipe but I believe Greg got a few tips from St Austell that he will post. Yeast? Well, that&#39;s part of the competition, working out which one. </p> http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/news-flash-proper-job-comp#post-28618 Sun, 22 Jan 2012 20:13:38 +0000 seamus48 28618@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ <p>Ok... so is everything we need back in stock now? Do we have a final recipe that we are gonna work to? &lt;img src=&quot;http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_mrgreen.gif&quot; title=&quot;:mrgreen:&quot; class=&quot;bb_smilies&quot; /&gt; </p> http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/pale-ale-recipe-critiquesugestionsthoughts#post-28480 Sat, 21 Jan 2012 00:47:47 +0000 saracen 28480@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ <p>Hi Zega.</p> <p>It&#39;s not going to make any difference which sugar you use, except Sainsbury&#39;s own label. It has some sweeteners in that don&#39;t ferment, so avoid it. Tate &amp; Lyle or Silver Spoon is the way to go. Brewing sugar should ferment out a bit quicker, but the end result is the same. Not worth the extra outlay, in my opinion.</p> <p>Priming sugar can be worked out at 3.0 gms per pint for bottling and 2.0 gms per pint for barreling. The amount of fizz you&#39;ll get depends on a few things. First, glass bottles will force Co2 into the beer better than plastic because it can&#39;t expand. The next consideration is storage temperature. You need to keep the bottles at 20°c for 2 weeks before storing them at a lower temperature. Not too low, no lower than about 8 - 10c. The lower the temperature, the more the Co2 will be absorbed into the beer, until at very cold temperatures it disappears altogether. Next, when you open the bottle, the lower the temperature the less &#39;head&#39; you&#39;ll get. Rather than losing all the fizz when you pop the cap, the Co2 will be released into the beer as the temperature rises, giving, hopefully, a fairly constant feel to the beer as you drink it. </p> http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/pale-ale-recipe-critiquesugestionsthoughts#post-28477 Fri, 20 Jan 2012 23:36:32 +0000 ZegaBrew 28477@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ <p>I&#39;m using brewing sugar if it makes a difference. </p> http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/pale-ale-recipe-critiquesugestionsthoughts#post-28476 Fri, 20 Jan 2012 23:36:01 +0000 ZegaBrew 28476@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ <p>Back for more...</p> <p>Looking at the recipes on this site they go for 120 g sugar for priming in bottles.</p> <p>My last, and only, brew I used 1 tsp per litre in the bottling bucket which would work out as about 80g in total. 1/2 tsp per botle as seems the norm.</p> <p>It turned out pretty flat.</p> <p>I&#39;m bottling the lot so is 120g about the right amount to have some but not to much fizz?</p> <p>Cheers,</p> <p>Zegs. </p> http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/pseudo-lager#post-28001 Mon, 16 Jan 2012 22:05:49 +0000 Hamish 28001@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ <p>Your stance maybe, I&#39;m quite happy to spend money with the evil capitalist pigs &lt;img src=&quot;http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_wink.gif&quot; title=&quot;:wink:&quot; class=&quot;bb_smilies&quot; /&gt; </p> <p> &lt;img src=&quot;http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_smile.gif&quot; title=&quot;:-)&quot; class=&quot;bb_smilies&quot; /&gt; </p> http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/pseudo-lager#post-27988 Mon, 16 Jan 2012 18:58:32 +0000 saracen 27988@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ <p>In view of our current political stance, would Sainsbury&#39;s flaked pudding rice be OK? &lt;img src=&quot;http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_lol.gif&quot; title=&quot;:lol:&quot; class=&quot;bb_smilies&quot; /&gt; </p> http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/pseudo-lager#post-27978 Mon, 16 Jan 2012 16:46:19 +0000 Hamish 27978@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ <p>Stocks are getting low so its time for the first brew of the year, this weekend if everything goes to plan. I want something that&#39;ll be ready quite quickly, so no lagering and as soon as it&#39;s dropped bright its going into the corny. I&#39;ll be dissapointed if I&#39;m not drinking this within 3 weeks.</p> <p>Pseudo-Lager</p> <p>Lager Malt 3800 grams 88.4%<br /> Tesco flaked pudding rice 500 grams 11.6%</p> <p>Northern Brewer 9% 23 grams 75 minutes<br /> Saaz 3.1 % 10 grams 5 minutes<br /> Saaz 3.1 % 10 grams 0 minutes</p> <p>Protafloc 10 minutes</p> <p>2 packs of Nottingham fermented at 14°C</p> <p>Final Volume: 23 litres<br /> Original Gravity: 1.042<br /> Final Gravity: 1.010<br /> Alcohol Content: 4.2% ABV<br /> Mash Efficiency: 75%<br /> Bitterness: 25 EBU<br /> Colour: 3 EBC </p> http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/anyone-up-for-a-properjob-recipe-challenge#post-27964 Mon, 16 Jan 2012 14:38:24 +0000 Technotrucker 27964@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ <p>£30 quid a day.... &lt;img src=&quot;http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_cry.gif&quot; title=&quot;:cry:&quot; class=&quot;bb_smilies&quot; /&gt; and I moan about £60-65 month. </p> http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/experimental-imperial-stout#post-27942 Mon, 16 Jan 2012 09:49:22 +0000 paul 27942@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ <p>thanks for the feedback. The DME is only in there because i have had half a pack lying round for a while so thought i would use it up- also helps get it up to 9%. Im gonna do this later on this week so hopefully i will upload some pics after i sort out the ten gallons thats waiting to be bottled, but that all may be a bit trickier than usual because i broke my thumb at the weekend playing rugby. </p> http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/anyone-up-for-a-properjob-recipe-challenge#post-27744 Sun, 15 Jan 2012 21:29:19 +0000 kilconlea 27744@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ <p>Gonna try the M&amp;S Cornish Ale first, it&#39;s possible I won&#39;t like it, doubt it though.<br /> Don&#39;t mention fuel, doin £30 a day in diesel at the mo. </p> http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/anyone-up-for-a-properjob-recipe-challenge#post-27739 Sun, 15 Jan 2012 21:13:01 +0000 chef 27739@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ <p>You can buy Proper Job online <a href="http://www.beersofeurope.co.uk/acatalog/Beers_of_Europe__St__Austell_177.html#aUKSA105">here</a>. But it&#39;s out of stock at the moment - I think the brew uk forum regulars have bought up the whole uk supply.<br /> The St Austell website has a <a href="http://www.staustellbreweryshop.co.uk/acatalog/Bottled_Beers.html">shop</a> too - £20.75 for a case of 12 (plus £10 courier delivery) - might still be cheaper than the petrol spent driving from store to store. </p> http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/anyone-up-for-a-properjob-recipe-challenge#post-27722 Sun, 15 Jan 2012 20:15:01 +0000 Technotrucker 27722@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ <p>Well who knows...I have the odd night out there every now and then...maybe a bottle could survive for a while in the cab &lt;img src=&quot;http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_lol.gif&quot; title=&quot;:lol:&quot; class=&quot;bb_smilies&quot; /&gt; </p> http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/anyone-up-for-a-properjob-recipe-challenge#post-27716 Sun, 15 Jan 2012 20:01:02 +0000 kilconlea 27716@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ <p>I was only kidding really, hardly likely you&#39;d go past me on the way to any of the ferry ports to France. Mind you I&#39;ve seen on another post that you pass South Mimms while working, I&#39;m only 5 mins from there.... </p> http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/anyone-up-for-a-properjob-recipe-challenge#post-27711 Sun, 15 Jan 2012 19:25:51 +0000 Technotrucker 27711@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ <p>Kilconlea...if I can get a bottle to you I will..if poss.. </p> http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/experimental-imperial-stout#post-27672 Sun, 15 Jan 2012 17:00:30 +0000 saracen 27672@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ <p>+1 and 2.</p> <p>Why the Dark DME? Maybe some High Colour Crystal, Lot cheaper. </p> http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/anyone-up-for-a-properjob-recipe-challenge#post-27657 Sun, 15 Jan 2012 16:22:43 +0000 kilconlea 27657@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ <p>Gonna bring me back some?<br /> You&#39;ll probably have to come past my house anyway. </p> http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/anyone-up-for-a-properjob-recipe-challenge#post-27655 Sun, 15 Jan 2012 16:05:51 +0000 Technotrucker 27655@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ <p>kilconlea:<br /> &quot;And why is french beer dreadful and belgian beer (mostly) nice? Or am I ignorant and not had any nice french beers?&quot;</p> <p>Kilconlea Hi..There is one French beer that I love &quot;Pelforth&quot;, it&#39;s big on malt..<br /> Alcohol Content 6.5 %<br /> Bitterness 21. EBU<br /> Gravity 16.7 °<br /> Colour 70.0 EBC<br /> Copper to dark brown. Medium body. Nutty, toasted, chocolate like malty sweetness in aroma and flavor. Medium bitterness. Low &quot;noble-type&quot; hop flavor and aroma. No fruitiness or esters.<br /> It&#39;s a Dunkel...and we&#39;re off to France in 6 weeks for holls... ain&#39;t I glad I&#39;ve got a estate car...yipee. </p> http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/news-flash-proper-job-comp#post-27557 Sat, 14 Jan 2012 20:07:28 +0000 seamus48 27557@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ <p><blockquote>I hope lots of people enter</blockquote></p> <p>If you stock it, they will brew... &lt;img src=&quot;http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_wink.gif&quot; title=&quot;:wink:&quot; class=&quot;bb_smilies&quot; /&gt; </p> http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/news-flash-proper-job-comp#post-27556 Sat, 14 Jan 2012 19:34:29 +0000 Greg 27556@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ <p>I hope lots of people enter. Whatever happens your get your beer tasted by one of Britains great brewers and I&#39;m sure he will be able to give feedback on all beers.</p> <p>I&#39;m trying to get a way for those who have never tasted or have access to the real thing to get an idea of the taste so they can enter, maybe a base recipe or something for guidance. </p> http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/any-good-extract-stout-recipes#post-27546 Sat, 14 Jan 2012 18:06:12 +0000 saracen 27546@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ <p>Here&#39;s one.</p> <p>Ringwood XXXX Porter. Extract Recipe. Final Volume 23 lts.</p> <p>Hop Alpha Acids: Challenger 8.2%, Goldings EKG 5.7%, Progress 5.5%</p> <p>Yeast: S-04, or Wyeast 1187 Ringwood Ale</p> <p>Sanitise all equipment and rinse before using.<br /> Bring 6 litres of water to between 65-70 C and steep the Chocolate Malt &amp; Crystal Malt for 30 mins. Monitor the temp and add heat if it drops below 65 C. Remove the grains with a strainer and bring the liquid to the boil. Dissolve 1.0 kg of malt extract into it. Bring back to the boil and add the Challenger hops. Boil for 65 mins then add 10 gms of Progress hops and boil for a further 10 minutes. Turn off the heat, let the liquid cool to 80°c and add the rest of the hops and allow to steep for 30 minutes then add the rest of the Dried Malt Extract, stirring vigorously to dissolve it. Add 8 litres of water to the fermenting bin then strain the boiled liquid into the water. Top up the fermenting bin to the 23 Litre mark pouring the remaining water through the strainer to extract maximum flavour from the hops. Add the yeast when the liquid has cooled to 15-24C. Use a thermometer to check the temperature. Take a hydrometer reading and record starting gravity. Place the lid on (ensuring one corner is not fully clipped down) or use a lid with airlock. Move to a suitable area in the house and leave until fermentation is complete. Bottle/Barrel and wait approx 1 - 2 weeks to clear. As with all beers, it will continue to improve with age.</p> <p>Dried Malt Extract Pale 10 EBC 2500 grams<br /> Wheat Malt Extract 8 EBC 400 grams<br /> Crystal Malt 130 EBC 400 grams<br /> Chocolate Malt 1050 EBC 200 grams</p> <p>Challenger Whole 8.2 % 75 mins 35 grams<br /> Progress Whole 5.5 % 10 mins 10 grams<br /> Golding EKG Whole 5.7 % 0 mins 7 grams</p> <p>Final Volume: 23 Litres<br /> Original Gravity: 1.049<br /> Final Gravity: 1.012<br /> Alcohol Content: 4.8% ABV<br /> Bitterness: 32 EBU<br /> Colour: 98 EBC </p> http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/any-good-extract-stout-recipes#post-27543 Sat, 14 Jan 2012 17:51:28 +0000 garrycav 27543@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ <p>Give this a try, I love it!</p> <p><a href="http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/stout-extract-recipe">Extract Stout Recipe</a></p> <p>I think it&#39;s been in the bottle about 6 weeks and every time I try one it just seems to get better and better. </p> http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/any-good-extract-stout-recipes#post-27541 Sat, 14 Jan 2012 17:43:40 +0000 Kilifin 27541@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ <p>Hi I&#39;d like to do a stout from extract. Was wondering if anyone has a good recipe? I saw the oatmeal stout but don&#39;t really fancy that, just a good old fashioned stout please! </p> http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/proper-job-recipe#post-27519 Sat, 14 Jan 2012 15:29:21 +0000 Greg 27519@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ <p>Chinook, Amarillo and Centennial will all be back in stock next week.</p> <p>They will be quite short in supply this year, especially Amarillo.</p> <p>I&#39;ll see if Roger can give us some clues re the recipe. </p> http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/news-flash-proper-job-comp#post-27507 Sat, 14 Jan 2012 13:19:24 +0000 saracen 27507@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ <p>Not yet, Mark. Wating for fresh stock of hops. Might as well use fresh for the best chance. Hopefully I can get something on the go for next weekend. </p> http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/news-flash-proper-job-comp#post-27506 Sat, 14 Jan 2012 12:56:11 +0000 Mark 27506@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ <p>Saracen are you all prepared to make this and when will you be doing so? </p> http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/news-flash-proper-job-comp#post-27501 Sat, 14 Jan 2012 12:42:57 +0000 saracen 27501@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ <p><blockquote>Where is Hamish havn&#39;t seen him on here for a while?</blockquote></p> <p>He&#39;ll show up when you least expect it, like a shadow from the forest, just in time to claim the prize.</p> <p>No, I think he might be off skiing .... or off piste .... or apres ski. See I know all the techy terms. I can speak Polish, too.... Warsaw. How&#39;s that? </p> http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/proper-job-recipe#post-27495 Sat, 14 Jan 2012 12:23:56 +0000 saracen 27495@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ <p>Exactly. What would you estimate the colour at? I got 9 EBC, but that seems very light. Like many others, if I could find a bottle, I might get a better idea. </p> http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/proper-job-recipe#post-27492 Sat, 14 Jan 2012 12:18:18 +0000 Nath 27492@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ <p>As do I. There was a Brewing Network show in which they were told that PJ is only pale malt (as it also says on the bottle), but the gumpf on their site says its brewed with a blend of malts including Cornish Gold.</p> <p>Hmmmmmm. </p> http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/proper-job-recipe#post-27490 Sat, 14 Jan 2012 12:15:01 +0000 saracen 27490@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ <p>In the interests of fairness and all that, I was going to delete the recipe I posted but leave all the info I&#39;d gathered about the beer as it&#39;s all easily available on the net. Then I thought, why bother, it&#39;s only a guess, .... especially when I spotted the glaringly obvious mistake in it. I also have very good reason to believe the info St Austell put out may be flawed. </p> http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/news-flash-proper-job-comp#post-27484 Sat, 14 Jan 2012 12:04:36 +0000 seamus48 27484@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ <p>Losers... beat that you crappy speller!!! </p> <p>You are soooo gonna have fun up on G Wing.... &lt;img src=&quot;http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_eek.gif&quot; title=&quot;8O&quot; class=&quot;bb_smilies&quot; /&gt; </p> http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/news-flash-proper-job-comp#post-27483 Sat, 14 Jan 2012 12:04:04 +0000 Nath 27483@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ <p>Or maybe this one that clearly states I am the head brewer of this particular beer I brewed, fermented and bottled this morning</p> <p><img src="http://i739.photobucket.com/albums/xx39/nath812/48e49d39.jpg"> </p> http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/news-flash-proper-job-comp#post-27482 Sat, 14 Jan 2012 12:01:42 +0000 Nath 27482@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ <p><img src="http://i739.photobucket.com/albums/xx39/nath812/a321afbb.jpg"></p> <p>Job done.</p> <p>Beat that you loosers!</p> <p>hehehehehehehehehe hahahahahah ahahaha hehehehe hahahahah . Ha </p> http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/news-flash-proper-job-comp#post-27478 Sat, 14 Jan 2012 11:46:42 +0000 seamus48 27478@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ <p>Sorry, that&#39;s evidence... the boys will be around to collect it this afternoon. &lt;img src=&quot;http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_neutral.gif&quot; title=&quot;:|&quot; class=&quot;bb_smilies&quot; /&gt; </p> http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/news-flash-proper-job-comp#post-27475 Sat, 14 Jan 2012 11:38:40 +0000 Nath 27475@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ <p>I spoke to Greg last night about this and I believe he wont be entering being the head honcho of BrewUK n all that.</p> <p>Ive already done my properjob clone. Pictures to follow.</p> <p>Mwa hahahahahaha. </p> http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/news-flash-proper-job-comp#post-27468 Sat, 14 Jan 2012 11:17:40 +0000 seamus48 27468@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ <p>Nah mate... they&#39;ll all be impounded at the port of entry into the UK... some rumour of a plot or summat &lt;img src=&quot;http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_eek.gif&quot; title=&quot;8O&quot; class=&quot;bb_smilies&quot; /&gt; <br /> You can&#39;t be too careful these days... </p> http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/news-flash-proper-job-comp#post-27467 Sat, 14 Jan 2012 11:14:54 +0000 kilconlea 27467@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ <p>Just placed an order for all of Greg&#39;s cascade &amp; williamette, will be doing similar on any other site I can find. Looks like Saracen&#39;s had all the chinook already. </p> http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/news-flash-proper-job-comp#post-27463 Sat, 14 Jan 2012 10:58:40 +0000 seamus48 27463@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ <p>You don&#39;t need to taste it mate... just go with a really typical heavy stout recipe and you&#39;ll be fine....<br /> Mwaahaa Haa... let the gamesmanship commence... &lt;img src=&quot;http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_mrgreen.gif&quot; title=&quot;:mrgreen:&quot; class=&quot;bb_smilies&quot; /&gt; </p> http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/news-flash-proper-job-comp#post-27462 Sat, 14 Jan 2012 10:56:00 +0000 kilconlea 27462@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ <p>I&#39;d have a go myself if I could get to try any of the real stuff! </p> http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/news-flash-proper-job-comp#post-27456 Sat, 14 Jan 2012 09:58:20 +0000 Mark 27456@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ <p>Wonder if Greg will have a punt at the comp? </p> http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/news-flash-proper-job-comp#post-27454 Sat, 14 Jan 2012 09:57:25 +0000 Mark 27454@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ <p>Where is Hamish havn&#39;t seen him on here for a while?<br /> Maybe when he gets back he can confirm if he is entering or not? </p> http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/news-flash-proper-job-comp#post-27452 Sat, 14 Jan 2012 09:49:18 +0000 seamus48 27452@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ <p>Mark I&#39;m sure most on here would leave me standing even if I was driving a Ferrari! (Except you that is!) &lt;img src=&quot;http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_mrgreen.gif&quot; title=&quot;:mrgreen:&quot; class=&quot;bb_smilies&quot; /&gt; </p> <p>And Hamish is banned as well... and given that I think I might actually be the only person on here with a genuine lawful power of arrest that makes me the Sheriff in these parts! &lt;img src=&quot;http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_mrgreen.gif&quot; title=&quot;:mrgreen:&quot; class=&quot;bb_smilies&quot; /&gt; </p> http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/news-flash-proper-job-comp#post-27451 Sat, 14 Jan 2012 09:44:36 +0000 saracen 27451@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ <p>Nath will be a very hot contender, but don&#39;t forget Hamish. He knows what he&#39;s doing. He&#39;ll be on the podium. </p> http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/news-flash-proper-job-comp#post-27450 Sat, 14 Jan 2012 09:42:36 +0000 Mark 27450@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ <p>He may leave you standing Seamus as we all know you talk the talk rather than walk the walk lovl &lt;img src=&quot;http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_wink.gif&quot; title=&quot;:wink:&quot; class=&quot;bb_smilies&quot; /&gt; </p> http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/news-flash-proper-job-comp#post-27448 Sat, 14 Jan 2012 09:32:56 +0000 seamus48 27448@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ <p><blockquote> Just working 14 hour nights shifts pumping out a sewage works, driving the stuff 7 miles up the road and pumping it into another sewage works.</blockquote> At least you don&#39;t have to syphon it through a poly tube... wouldn&#39;t wanna be sucking on that... &lt;img src=&quot;http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_eek.gif&quot; title=&quot;8O&quot; class=&quot;bb_smilies&quot; /&gt; </p> <p>p.s. Is this the start of a &#39;The worst job I ever had&#39; thread in the style of Derek and Clive? &lt;img src=&quot;http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_mrgreen.gif&quot; title=&quot;:mrgreen:&quot; class=&quot;bb_smilies&quot; /&gt; </p> <p>And no, Nath should not take part... not because of any association with the comp, it is after all being judged by someone impartial, but purely on the grounds that he might leave the rest of us poor saps standing! </p> <p>So for that reason he should be <img src="http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a249/Seamus48/icon_banned.gif"> </p> http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/news-flash-proper-job-comp#post-27447 Sat, 14 Jan 2012 09:28:10 +0000 Mark 27447@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ <p>Reason i said you had gone quiet on this thread was because yesterday you posted on some other threads and did not on this one hence that&#39;s why i thought Saracens in it to win it which is what you have just confirmed.</p> <p>I think you are underplaying your chances as you must be a contender.</p> <p>A great prize which you must be chuffed at and my estimate of say 6-10 entries must make the odds very good for you but i hope more people will enter but i personally think it will be the regulars from this site entering.</p> <p>Talking of regulars Nath is the moderator and in all competitions anyone assossiated with the running of the competition is normally excluded to ensure fair play rules. I wonder if he is allowed to enter? but i suppose if no one has any objections it will be ok but then again as he is another contender maybe someone will have an objection lol &lt;img src=&quot;http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_lol.gif&quot; title=&quot;:lol:&quot; class=&quot;bb_smilies&quot; /&gt; </p> http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/news-flash-proper-job-comp#post-27444 Sat, 14 Jan 2012 08:49:01 +0000 saracen 27444@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ <p>For all those speculators out there who are wondering where I&#39;ve got to, etc, I&#39;m not avoiding you.... Just working 14 hour nights shifts pumping out a sewage works, driving the stuff 7 miles up the road and pumping it into another sewage works. I&#39;ll certainly be in this comp and I&#39;m going to do my very best to win it. Not very likely, though. </p> http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/news-flash-proper-job-comp#post-27441 Sat, 14 Jan 2012 01:36:20 +0000 Mark 27441@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ <p>Ahem back to the thread</p> <p>So when do you reckon you will start getting the ingredients and starting the brew for this comp? </p> http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/news-flash-proper-job-comp#post-27439 Sat, 14 Jan 2012 01:33:50 +0000 Nath 27439@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ <p>long story, all I can say is - just stick to women, electrical goods may seem sexy but they are not. Im just lucky I already have a son and daughter. Still being 31 and cut off at your prime. I dunno! </p> http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/news-flash-proper-job-comp#post-27438 Sat, 14 Jan 2012 01:15:05 +0000 Mark 27438@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ <p>So Nath have you replaced it with a pickled onion and now only get turned on by a cheese sarnie lol &lt;img src=&quot;http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_lol.gif&quot; title=&quot;:lol:&quot; class=&quot;bb_smilies&quot; /&gt; </p> <p>How the bloody hell did it end up in a blender? </p> http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/news-flash-proper-job-comp#post-27435 Sat, 14 Jan 2012 01:00:05 +0000 seamus48 27435@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ <p>LMAO &lt;img src=&quot;http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_mrgreen.gif&quot; title=&quot;:mrgreen:&quot; class=&quot;bb_smilies&quot; /&gt; </p> http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/news-flash-proper-job-comp#post-27434 Sat, 14 Jan 2012 00:55:49 +0000 Nath 27434@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ <p>Ever heard of hop blending????</p> <p>Try c*ck blending, makes ur beer better &lt;img src=&quot;http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_smile.gif&quot; title=&quot;:-)&quot; class=&quot;bb_smilies&quot; /&gt; </p> <p>Yep, I lost it in a blender accident. </p> http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/news-flash-proper-job-comp#post-27433 Sat, 14 Jan 2012 00:46:53 +0000 Mark 27433@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ <p>No not Bo****ks but plums as in fruit &lt;img src=&quot;http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_mad.gif&quot; title=&quot;:x&quot; class=&quot;bb_smilies&quot; /&gt; </p> http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/news-flash-proper-job-comp#post-27431 Sat, 14 Jan 2012 00:45:26 +0000 seamus48 27431@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ <p>Nath can&#39;t do that... he&#39;s only got one &lt;img src=&quot;http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_eek.gif&quot; title=&quot;8O&quot; class=&quot;bb_smilies&quot; /&gt; </p> <p>He&#39;d have to go half volume... </p> http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/news-flash-proper-job-comp#post-27429 Sat, 14 Jan 2012 00:43:34 +0000 Mark 27429@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ <p>Have you seen his latest Wherry tweak of liquorice and plums? &lt;img src=&quot;http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_eek.gif&quot; title=&quot;8O&quot; class=&quot;bb_smilies&quot; /&gt; </p> http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/news-flash-proper-job-comp#post-27427 Sat, 14 Jan 2012 00:41:25 +0000 seamus48 27427@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ <p>Nah... he&#39;s an evil genius... He&#39;ll be subtly tweaking the public recipe for us poor saps to follow... If it says add 1 large jar of pickled onions in the last 10 mins of the boil I ain&#39;t doing it! &lt;img src=&quot;http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_eek.gif&quot; title=&quot;8O&quot; class=&quot;bb_smilies&quot; /&gt; </p> http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/news-flash-proper-job-comp#post-27426 Sat, 14 Jan 2012 00:36:35 +0000 Mark 27426@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ <p>Ahh very clever Greg 1 bottle for the comp and another for your rolling stock, no wonder you want as many people to enter as possible hee hee hee &lt;img src=&quot;http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_twisted.gif&quot; title=&quot;:twisted:&quot; class=&quot;bb_smilies&quot; /&gt; </p> <p>Has everyone noticed the eerry silence from Dr Saracen &lt;img src=&quot;http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_question.gif&quot; title=&quot;:?:&quot; class=&quot;bb_smilies&quot; /&gt; </p> <p>I bet he is doing cartwheels jumping for joy and rubbing his hands with glee to be a contender to get brewing in a brewery. </p> http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/something-for-her-maj#post-27423 Sat, 14 Jan 2012 00:29:23 +0000 Mark 27423@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ <p>Yes Seamus give all the neighbours one for free quite legal that.<br /> Mad Len dosn&#39;t understand &lt;img src=&quot;http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_neutral.gif&quot; title=&quot;:|&quot; class=&quot;bb_smilies&quot; /&gt; </p> http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/experimental-imperial-stout#post-27397 Fri, 13 Jan 2012 22:49:56 +0000 Greg 27397@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ <p>Looks good to me but will definitely benefit from some extended conditioning. </p> http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/news-flash-proper-job-comp#post-27377 Fri, 13 Jan 2012 20:49:21 +0000 Greg 27377@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ <p>I&#39;m putting some more thought into this one so as many people as possible can enter. Perhaps coming up with a sample recipe for those who don&#39;t access to Proper Job can still enter.</p> <p>At the end of the day the recipe is only half the battle, good brewing technique is also important but what have you got to loose, a small amount of postage and a couple of bottles. </p> http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/something-for-her-maj#post-27374 Fri, 13 Jan 2012 20:34:07 +0000 seamus48 27374@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ <p>Operative word there is &#39;give&#39; not sell. Not an issue as far as HMRC is concerned. No different to SWMBO making up a few flats of &#39;sarnwidges&#39; although prob tastier &lt;img src=&quot;http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_wink.gif&quot; title=&quot;:wink:&quot; class=&quot;bb_smilies&quot; /&gt; </p> http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/something-for-her-maj#post-27373 Fri, 13 Jan 2012 20:31:19 +0000 madlen_lieb 27373@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ <p>hi,</p> <p>just a question, if you use it during a street party an and therefore give the beer to everybody, how is the legal situation, as we don&#39;t pay taxes?</p> <p>lg madlen </p> http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/news-flash-proper-job-comp#post-27369 Fri, 13 Jan 2012 20:21:56 +0000 Als Pals 27369@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ <p> &lt;img src=&quot;http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_lol.gif&quot; title=&quot;:lol:&quot; class=&quot;bb_smilies&quot; /&gt; standard recipe sounds alright, then we&#39;re see who has the best tekkers!! &lt;img src=&quot;http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_cool.gif&quot; title=&quot;8)&quot; class=&quot;bb_smilies&quot; /&gt; </p> http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/something-for-her-maj#post-27368 Fri, 13 Jan 2012 20:21:05 +0000 seamus48 27368@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ <p>Oooh... am in a quandary now... traditional and faithfull or modern and forward looking... &lt;img src=&quot;http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_question.gif&quot; title=&quot;:?:&quot; class=&quot;bb_smilies&quot; /&gt; </p> http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/experimental-imperial-stout#post-27367 Fri, 13 Jan 2012 20:20:51 +0000 Nath 27367@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ <p>Well, I dunno! Ive not used 3 of the above malts, but as long as they are within their adition limits im sure it will be a beer! For an imperial stout its mentioned that the ratio of sweetness and bitterness should be as close to 1.00 as possible and youve pretty much hit that target.</p> <p>As for the colour..... its pretty damn dark dude, but it is a stout! This is an experimental brew so why not.</p> <p>You may want to keep bottles for a LOOOONNNNGGGG time, make sure you leave some for a good few years! </p> http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/news-flash-proper-job-comp#post-27360 Fri, 13 Jan 2012 20:09:51 +0000 seamus48 27360@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ <p>Maybe we should agree a standard recipe from the off... &lt;img src=&quot;http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_question.gif&quot; title=&quot;:?:&quot; class=&quot;bb_smilies&quot; /&gt; </p> <p><blockquote>Just heard back from Roger Ryman (head brewer at St Austell) and not only is he willing to judge the competition but he has also offered a prize for the winner to actually go and brew the real thing.</blockquote></p> <p>It&#39;ll be alright anyway... my youngest sister is sleeping with him. She doesn&#39;t know that yet but I&#39;ve left a message on her mobie... &lt;img src=&quot;http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_confused.gif&quot; title=&quot;:?&quot; class=&quot;bb_smilies&quot; /&gt; </p> http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/news-flash-proper-job-comp#post-27358 Fri, 13 Jan 2012 20:08:56 +0000 seamus48 27358@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ <p><blockquote>I think with such a prize at stake that Saracen will maybe stop giving all his research away to Seamus and everyone else.</blockquote></p> <p>We haf vays of making him talk... &lt;img src=&quot;http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_eek.gif&quot; title=&quot;8O&quot; class=&quot;bb_smilies&quot; /&gt; </p> http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/news-flash-proper-job-comp#post-27355 Fri, 13 Jan 2012 19:13:35 +0000 Barracuda 27355@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ <p>Thats totally fantastic. I&#39;m not clued up enough to enter this one, but do it again next year, and I&#39;m in.</p> <p>Good luck to those that enter! </p> http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/news-flash-proper-job-comp#post-27351 Fri, 13 Jan 2012 19:10:04 +0000 Nath 27351@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ <p>So how did you manage to sort this amazing comp out. Im so excited its all ive talked about to my work mates and family! </p> http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/experimental-imperial-stout#post-27350 Fri, 13 Jan 2012 19:03:53 +0000 paul 27350@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ <p>Hi, just wanted any thoughts on this brew I’m planning for one day next week. </p> <p>Imperial Stout</p> <p>Pale malt 4700g 75.4%<br /> Rauchmalz 500g 8%<br /> Chocolate malt 250g 4%<br /> Roasted Barley 250g 4%<br /> DME dark 250g 4%<br /> Melanoidin Malt 180g 2.9%<br /> Wheat malt 100g 1.6%</p> <p>Nugget 12% 80g 70mins<br /> Fuggle 6.1% 30g 10mins<br /> Galena 14.7% 30g dry hop</p> <p>Final Volume: 15L<br /> OG: 1.095<br /> FG: 1.016<br /> Alcohol Content: 9.1%ABV<br /> Mash Efficiency: 75%<br /> Bitterness: 109 EBU<br /> Colour: 331 EBC</p> <p>It’s a bit of an experiment to see how it turns out and I assume I will have to leave it in the bottle a fair while to get it at its best anyway. Do you think the 331 EBC is a bit much?</p> <p>Cheers. </p> http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/old-peculiar-extract-recipe-wanted#post-27345 Fri, 13 Jan 2012 18:40:57 +0000 figaro48 27345@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ <p>I have the book that Barage has. it&#39;s the Camra Ltd 1993 one. I have used this book by G/W and Roger Protz for all my brewing up until I followed this site and then used the Brew your ownn British Real Ale as recomended by many of you. Recipes vary slightly and I believe the later one slighty advananced on the previous one. </p> http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/old-peculiar-extract-recipe-wanted#post-27315 Fri, 13 Jan 2012 16:51:54 +0000 saracen 27315@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ <p>Hi Barage. NIce to meet you.<br /> That&#39;s a different recipe, and a book I don&#39;t know. I always use Graham Wheeler&#39;s &quot;Brew you own British Real Ale&quot;. Sounds similar to the other one. It&#39;s the book we recommend to everyone who joins. There is so much bad and conflicting advice on the net, we find it best to stick to one source, and GW is about the best.</p> <p>The recipe above is taken directly from the book. It&#39;s an extract recipe, in line with Iceman&#39;s requirements, but I was looking at an old recipe for it in Dave Line&#39;s book &quot;Brewing Beers like those you buy&quot;. It&#39;s so old it uses all sorts of unusual ingredients and would take a lot of converting. The problem is that hop Alpha Acids have imprved so much that it&#39;s easy to produce something similar to drain cleaner, but it would be interesting to see how close he was. </p> http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/old-peculiar-extract-recipe-wanted#post-27311 Fri, 13 Jan 2012 16:43:08 +0000 barage 27311@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ <p>I have brewed Old Peculiar from the following recipe ; </p> <p>Mash - 2 hours Pale malt 4,500 grams<br /> Crystal malt 620 grams<br /> Black malt 120 grams</p> <p>Boil - 2 hours Maltose syrup 500 grams<br /> Brewing sugar 500 grams<br /> Challenger hops 30 grams<br /> Fuggles hops 35 grams<br /> Last 15 minutes Fuggles hops 12 grams</p> <p> Makes 23 litres.</p> <p> I have 2 gallons of Old Peculiar conditioning right now.</p> <p> I would strongly recommend &quot;Brew your own real ale at home&quot;, by Graham Wheeler and Roger Protz.<br /> This has recipes for ; 15 milds<br /> 69 pale or bitter ales<br /> 6 stouts/porters<br /> 17 old ales/barley wines</p> <p> Also chapters on how to brew, ingredients, brewing equipment, even a recipe for Thomas Hardy ale and Russian imperial stout. I have brewed many fine ales from this book over the years. </p> http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/something-for-her-maj#post-27305 Fri, 13 Jan 2012 16:29:15 +0000 saracen 27305@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ <p>I can play around a bit with the LP recipe. It a good base and gives a good result by using variations. We can up the ABV, change the colour, use different late hops or dry hop with something suitably aromatic.<br /> Do you think we want to go with traditional English Hops, or something cirussy and summery? </p> http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/anyone-up-for-a-properjob-recipe-challenge#post-27263 Fri, 13 Jan 2012 14:13:45 +0000 Mark 27263@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ <p>I see what you mean Al, i have never seen a bottle let alone taste it. I will keep me eye out for it in supermarkets but do not expect to find it in Southend so maybe London Pride will still have to suffice. </p> http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/news-flash-proper-job-comp#post-27262 Fri, 13 Jan 2012 14:10:57 +0000 Mark 27262@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ <p>Wow this is a proper comp then and really good news for the serious brewers on here. I think with such a prize at stake that Saracen will maybe stop giving all his research away to Seamus and everyone else.</p> <p>So for the main brewers on this site, will they have to bottle it for it to be judged?</p> <p>Nice one Greg for getting a magnificent prize secured and a good talking point for the forum as well.<br /> I think the rivalary will start kicking in today. &lt;img src=&quot;http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_lol.gif&quot; title=&quot;:lol:&quot; class=&quot;bb_smilies&quot; /&gt; </p> http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/news-flash-proper-job-comp#post-27260 Fri, 13 Jan 2012 14:00:40 +0000 Nath 27260@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ <p><strong><center>O M G</center></strong></p> <p>No mutha flippin way. Im soooooooooo in for that! </p> http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/news-flash-proper-job-comp#post-27256 Fri, 13 Jan 2012 13:42:10 +0000 Greg 27256@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ <p>Not sure about that.</p> <p>We&#39;ll have to come up with time frames etc. I was thinking a few months so allow for conditioning etc. Maybe beginning of May? </p> http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/news-flash-proper-job-comp#post-27255 Fri, 13 Jan 2012 13:37:45 +0000 grmski 27255@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ <p>Any chance they&#39;ll let you sell their yeast for us to use?</p> <p>I&#39;m liking the sound of this. What are the timeframes to get this done in?</p> <p>cheers,<br /> Grmski </p> http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/news-flash-proper-job-comp#post-27254 Fri, 13 Jan 2012 13:17:12 +0000 Greg 27254@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ <p>Okay, sorry for the silence on this one but I&#39;ve been working on spicing the comp up a bit.</p> <p>Just heard back from Roger Ryman (head brewer at St Austell) and not only is he willing to judge the competition but he has also offered a prize for the winner to actually go and brew the real thing.</p> <p>So we need to come up with some proper rules which I&#39;ll post properly later.</p> <p>I think the following:</p> <p>Brew a clone of the brew, brewer decides the recipe to try and the closet to the real thing wins. </p> http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/anyone-up-for-a-properjob-recipe-challenge#post-27253 Fri, 13 Jan 2012 12:24:37 +0000 Als Pals 27253@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ <p>Right that&#39;s it... The motor is getting a full tank of petrol tonight and I aint coming home till I pick up a bottle of proper job, I can&#39;t keep having all this talk about the legend of st Austell without a clue of what it looks or tastes like &lt;img src=&quot;http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_cry.gif&quot; title=&quot;:cry:&quot; class=&quot;bb_smilies&quot; /&gt; surely it can&#39;t be that good!! Can it..... </p> http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/something-for-her-maj#post-27250 Fri, 13 Jan 2012 11:53:18 +0000 grmski 27250@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ <p>How about something nice and Germanic to highlight her family heritage? </p> http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/anyone-up-for-a-properjob-recipe-challenge#post-27216 Fri, 13 Jan 2012 02:06:59 +0000 Timbo77 27216@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ <p>Gotta pop off now mate &lt;img src=&quot;http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_sad.gif&quot; title=&quot;:(&quot; class=&quot;bb_smilies&quot; /&gt; good luck with the brew fridge! &lt;img src=&quot;http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_smile.gif&quot; title=&quot;:)&quot; class=&quot;bb_smilies&quot; /&gt; </p> http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/anyone-up-for-a-properjob-recipe-challenge#post-27215 Fri, 13 Jan 2012 02:01:56 +0000 seamus48 27215@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ <p>Oh dear! Only a broken car I hope! &lt;img src=&quot;http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_eek.gif&quot; title=&quot;8O&quot; class=&quot;bb_smilies&quot; /&gt; </p> <p>I am just being a bit indecisive about what to order and get on with brewing. We need to agree a PJ recipe and set the parameters for the suggested competition I think. That said, I&#39;m seriously thinking about using my 3 weeks off to to build a brew fridge set-up in the garage so I can do the PJ justice. Will be trying to hunt down a suitable fridge / freezer I think. </p> http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/anyone-up-for-a-properjob-recipe-challenge#post-27214 Fri, 13 Jan 2012 01:56:55 +0000 Timbo77 27214@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ <p>I&#39;m hoping to find a couple of proper jobs in my local Tescos later on to warm up my taste buds, but will only have them after I&#39;ve started to fix mine and my brothers car (he decided to go for a roll in the bushes in the cambrian forests last year with a young lady!!) </p> http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/anyone-up-for-a-properjob-recipe-challenge#post-27213 Fri, 13 Jan 2012 01:50:19 +0000 seamus48 27213@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ <p>Unfortunately not. I&#39;m on shift right through till Tues morning. </p> <p>Actually I don&#39;t have anything on the go at the mo which is unusual. Am discussing it with my brew buddy (No 2 son) and we are talking about pulling an order together over the next few days. Am itching to have a crack at the Proper job, and a Twibute, and toying with a Jubilee Ale that I can bang away for a few months to condition thoroughly. So am sort of hanging about waiting for the new hop harvest to arrive and put a big order in in one go... &lt;img src=&quot;http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_redface.gif&quot; title=&quot;:oops:&quot; class=&quot;bb_smilies&quot; /&gt; </p> http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/anyone-up-for-a-properjob-recipe-challenge#post-27212 Fri, 13 Jan 2012 01:44:50 +0000 Timbo77 27212@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ <p>Morning! &lt;img src=&quot;http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_razz.gif&quot; title=&quot;:P&quot; class=&quot;bb_smilies&quot; /&gt; Thank the gud lordy it&#39;s nearly the weekend! You doing any bubble sniffing the weekend bud? &lt;img src=&quot;http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_smile.gif&quot; title=&quot;:)&quot; class=&quot;bb_smilies&quot; /&gt; </p> http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/anyone-up-for-a-properjob-recipe-challenge#post-27211 Fri, 13 Jan 2012 01:42:43 +0000 seamus48 27211@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ <p>He he he... </p> <p>Evening again mate &lt;img src=&quot;http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_wink.gif&quot; title=&quot;:wink:&quot; class=&quot;bb_smilies&quot; /&gt; </p> http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/anyone-up-for-a-properjob-recipe-challenge#post-27210 Fri, 13 Jan 2012 01:41:05 +0000 Timbo77 27210@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ <p>Ah yes! The Amarillo kit has arrived! First time I&#39;ve ever had a whiff of the amarillo hops (when they&#39;ve not been in a beer), wonderful stuff! I&#39;ll get cracking on this to get my bubble sniffing fix and then methinks I&#39;ll be up for a bit of Proper Jobbing! </p> <p><img src="http://1.2.3.13/bmi/www.animated-smileys.com/smileys/drinking/animated-smileys-drinking-022.gif"> </p> http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/anyone-up-for-a-properjob-recipe-challenge#post-27208 Fri, 13 Jan 2012 01:36:24 +0000 seamus48 27208@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ <p>Man, they can hear my SWMBO coming down the <em>street</em>! Maybe I ought to gag her next time, or at least shut the windows... &lt;img src=&quot;http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_eek.gif&quot; title=&quot;8O&quot; class=&quot;bb_smilies&quot; /&gt; </p> http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/anyone-up-for-a-properjob-recipe-challenge#post-27206 Fri, 13 Jan 2012 01:25:58 +0000 kilconlea 27206@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ <p>Hold on, I can hear the missus coming down the stairs, abort, abort, abort, roger and ou </p> http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/anyone-up-for-a-properjob-recipe-challenge#post-27203 Fri, 13 Jan 2012 01:11:49 +0000 seamus48 27203@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ <p>Can think of worse ways to spend an evening KCL... good skills. Gotta love them Amarillos... &lt;img src=&quot;http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_wink.gif&quot; title=&quot;:wink:&quot; class=&quot;bb_smilies&quot; /&gt; </p> http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/anyone-up-for-a-properjob-recipe-challenge#post-27201 Fri, 13 Jan 2012 01:08:58 +0000 kilconlea 27201@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ <p>May as well crack open another WTA and load up the Lesbo Chickfest box-set I got from Santa. </p> http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/anyone-up-for-a-properjob-recipe-challenge#post-27200 Fri, 13 Jan 2012 01:00:07 +0000 seamus48 27200@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ <p>Me neither... &lt;img src=&quot;http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_mrgreen.gif&quot; title=&quot;:mrgreen:&quot; class=&quot;bb_smilies&quot; /&gt; </p> http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/anyone-up-for-a-properjob-recipe-challenge#post-27198 Fri, 13 Jan 2012 00:58:32 +0000 kilconlea 27198@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ <p>Thanks for that, I won&#39;t get a wink of sleep tonight now. </p> http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/anyone-up-for-a-properjob-recipe-challenge#post-27196 Fri, 13 Jan 2012 00:44:33 +0000 seamus48 27196@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ <p>Deep Man... real deep... </p> http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/anyone-up-for-a-properjob-recipe-challenge#post-27195 Fri, 13 Jan 2012 00:38:15 +0000 Nath 27195@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ <p>Ahhh but remember the old saying</p> <p>&quot; you can&#39;t spell school with out part of the word grolsch&quot;</p> <p>And the other famous saying</p> <p>&quot; you can&#39;t spell the drummers name from nirvana without part of the word grolsch&quot;</p> <p>Very wise words, and true </p> http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/anyone-up-for-a-properjob-recipe-challenge#post-27193 Fri, 13 Jan 2012 00:34:36 +0000 kilconlea 27193@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ <p>And why is french beer dreadful and belgian beer (mostly) nice? Or am I ignorant and not had any nice french beers? </p> http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/anyone-up-for-a-properjob-recipe-challenge#post-27191 Fri, 13 Jan 2012 00:30:54 +0000 seamus48 27191@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ <p>I used to like Grolsch about 25 years ago... now it&#39;s just Europisch IMHO. </p> http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/anyone-up-for-a-properjob-recipe-challenge#post-27188 Fri, 13 Jan 2012 00:16:57 +0000 kilconlea 27188@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ <p>Mind you Mark, the question you actually posed was how could you take part in the challenge, eh?<br /> The answer is, like it or not, you do need a 10 litre stockpot. I reckon you&#39;d get one for a tenner on ebay.<br /> I am very lazy, very, (some would say very) .... but once I&#39;d done a couple of extract brews, the only kit I&#39;d do now is Headcracker (cos I love it), and maybe Ruby Red cos everyone raves about it and I&#39;m curious. Not dissing kits at all but the extra effort of boiling water for 75mins and straining some hops is worth it.<br /> BTW, I did the same with Grolsch for the bottles, bought loads on the cheap, after a couple of weeks I tipped the last few down the sink... was 8 months ago and I still have that taste. </p> http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/anyone-up-for-a-properjob-recipe-challenge#post-27181 Thu, 12 Jan 2012 23:49:00 +0000 seamus48 27181@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ <p>Hey I can&#39;t fault any of that my friend. You keep on doing what works for you. &lt;img src=&quot;http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_smile.gif&quot; title=&quot;:-)&quot; class=&quot;bb_smilies&quot; /&gt; </p> http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/anyone-up-for-a-properjob-recipe-challenge#post-27178 Thu, 12 Jan 2012 23:46:27 +0000 Mark 27178@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ <p>I see what you are saying Kev but i find if you brew these all low end temp and get rid of all sugar and replace with better ingredients and condition for a couple of months as well as recently upgrading to liquid yeast that you can get an exceptionally high standard of beer,lager,cider or wine and much better than shop bought or pub mass produced piss. Last week i bought 4 bottles of Grolsh lager simply for the bottles and it was terrible to drink, not kidding like it had been watered down as it was so thin and tasteless and what lager i make is far far superior to this piss that tastes really quaffable. If i was getting disastrous results with kits then i might try but every time i am brewing a quality drink that i mostly drink from 2 months onwards. </p> http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/anyone-up-for-a-properjob-recipe-challenge#post-27173 Thu, 12 Jan 2012 23:38:20 +0000 Nath 27173@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ <p>I would expect the best bet is to get a pale or ipa kit, replace any sugar with light spray malt and try to find out the bitterness of the kit. From there either make a hop tea, pr dry hop (or both) with your specific hops you want to use to get a really hoppy smelling brew going on then use the bittering extract from thi site to add to the brew until you get the required bitterness. You could always change the yeast to a more sutible strain as well</p> <p>Loads a options! Or ( like above) get a stockpot and take the extract plunge. You won&#39;t be disappointed! </p> http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/anyone-up-for-a-properjob-recipe-challenge#post-27171 Thu, 12 Jan 2012 23:36:31 +0000 seamus48 27171@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ <p>You could brew extract mate... you just need a big enough stockpot. I was wary of going down that route, partly because I couldn&#39;t find a bl**dy pot for a sensible price. Then one rainy day I found one in Trago Mills (Cornwall) 15L, good solid stainless, for about £20. You already have the other kit I expect. You just need a pot that will allow you to brew 8L safely (enough spare capacity to cope with foaming during the boil).</p> <p>You would be welcome to borrow mine but you are quite a long way from me. &lt;img src=&quot;http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_redface.gif&quot; title=&quot;:oops:&quot; class=&quot;bb_smilies&quot; /&gt; </p> <p>Tell ya what though, haven&#39;t found a kit that comes close to beating any of the extracts we have done, even the ones that were part of the &#39;learning curve&#39;. You won&#39;t regret it. </p> http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/anyone-up-for-a-properjob-recipe-challenge#post-27168 Thu, 12 Jan 2012 23:29:02 +0000 Mark 27168@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ <p>Getting back to the challenge</p> <p>I ask how can a skillfull but simplistic kit brewer like myself take part in a proper job challenge?</p> <p>Saracen any extra wherry tweaks i can do to get a proper job clone? &lt;img src=&quot;http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_redface.gif&quot; title=&quot;:oops:&quot; class=&quot;bb_smilies&quot; /&gt; </p> http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/anyone-up-for-a-properjob-recipe-challenge#post-27162 Thu, 12 Jan 2012 23:22:13 +0000 seamus48 27162@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ <p>Bucks, near &#39;Chav Central&#39; (otherwise known as Aylesbury) &lt;img src=&quot;http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_eek.gif&quot; title=&quot;8O&quot; class=&quot;bb_smilies&quot; /&gt; </p> <p>You&#39;ll have seen it on the news this week... the HS2 is gonna carve right through it. &lt;img src=&quot;http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_twisted.gif&quot; title=&quot;:twisted:&quot; class=&quot;bb_smilies&quot; /&gt; </p> http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/anyone-up-for-a-properjob-recipe-challenge#post-27159 Thu, 12 Jan 2012 23:20:20 +0000 Mark 27159@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ <p>Where is Wendover &lt;img src=&quot;http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_question.gif&quot; title=&quot;:?:&quot; class=&quot;bb_smilies&quot; /&gt; </p> http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/anyone-up-for-a-properjob-recipe-challenge#post-27157 Thu, 12 Jan 2012 23:18:06 +0000 seamus48 27157@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ <p>I like that Bengal Lancer on occasion... they often have it in the Red Lion in Wendover and it&#39;s quite pleasant. Not tried the others other than the LP though. </p> http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/anyone-up-for-a-properjob-recipe-challenge#post-27156 Thu, 12 Jan 2012 23:15:55 +0000 Mark 27156@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ <p>Seamus me old mate you don&#39;t miss a trick lmfao &lt;img src=&quot;http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_lol.gif&quot; title=&quot;:lol:&quot; class=&quot;bb_smilies&quot; /&gt; </p> http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/anyone-up-for-a-properjob-recipe-challenge#post-27151 Thu, 12 Jan 2012 23:09:55 +0000 seamus48 27151@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ <p>Ah... you mean a selection of Fullers ales... sorry... wasn&#39;t being pedantic, I just wondered if I had missed something. &lt;img src=&quot;http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_smile.gif&quot; title=&quot;:-)&quot; class=&quot;bb_smilies&quot; /&gt; </p> http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/anyone-up-for-a-properjob-recipe-challenge#post-27150 Thu, 12 Jan 2012 23:07:33 +0000 Mark 27150@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ <p>Yes loads such as Golden Pride, Bengal Lancer,Chiswick,London Porter to name a few that come to mind but i would say at least a dozen. </p> http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/anyone-up-for-a-properjob-recipe-challenge#post-27148 Thu, 12 Jan 2012 23:01:31 +0000 seamus48 27148@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ <p><blockquote>huge <strong>selection</strong> of London Pride </blockquote></p> <p>Do they <em>have</em> different varieties??? &lt;img src=&quot;http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_rolleyes.gif&quot; title=&quot;:roll:&quot; class=&quot;bb_smilies&quot; /&gt; </p> http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/anyone-up-for-a-properjob-recipe-challenge#post-27145 Thu, 12 Jan 2012 22:57:52 +0000 Mark 27145@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ <p>KCL bet these tesco shops you know have a huge selection of London Pride. </p> http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/anyone-up-for-a-properjob-recipe-challenge#post-27143 Thu, 12 Jan 2012 22:54:36 +0000 seamus48 27143@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ <p>Salisbury, Wiltshire &lt;img src=&quot;http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_smile.gif&quot; title=&quot;:-)&quot; class=&quot;bb_smilies&quot; /&gt; </p> http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/anyone-up-for-a-properjob-recipe-challenge#post-27139 Thu, 12 Jan 2012 22:43:10 +0000 kilconlea 27139@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ <p>Tried Waitrose Finchley, Barnet and Mill Hill East, Morrisons Queensbury and Borehamwood, no joy.<br /> Where&#39;s Southampton Road Tesco? Bet it ain&#39;t the one in Hampstead! </p> http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/anyone-up-for-a-properjob-recipe-challenge#post-27135 Thu, 12 Jan 2012 22:18:35 +0000 seamus48 27135@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ <p>Cor!... how the other half live eh? &lt;img src=&quot;http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_wink.gif&quot; title=&quot;:wink:&quot; class=&quot;bb_smilies&quot; /&gt; </p> http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/anyone-up-for-a-properjob-recipe-challenge#post-27133 Thu, 12 Jan 2012 22:13:26 +0000 garrycav 27133@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ <p>Try Waitrose, always got a huge selection of beer. </p> http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/anyone-up-for-a-properjob-recipe-challenge#post-27115 Thu, 12 Jan 2012 21:22:54 +0000 seamus48 27115@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ <p> &lt;img src=&quot;http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_eek.gif&quot; title=&quot;8O&quot; class=&quot;bb_smilies&quot; /&gt; Mate... the Elephant Man could get a BJ in Salisbury!!! </p>