Brew UK Forum » Forum: Extract Brewing

Brew UK Forum » Forum: Extract Brewing - Recent Posts http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Brew UK Forum » Forum: Extract Brewing - Recent Posts en Tue, 07 Feb 2012 22:25:49 +0000 Hamish on "Lager question" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/lager-question#post-30801 Tue, 07 Feb 2012 22:42:19 +0000 Hamish 30801@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ I've got a lager planned for the weekend after next. I'm going to make a 2 litre starter, maybe 3 litres if the stirrer can cope with that much and I expect it to be fermented after 2 weeks at 10C. If you've used one pack I should think you're spot on with your estimated fermentation time. It depends upon the yeast of course but a diacetyl rest is quite important, you don't want a buttery taste. When the wort is about 3 points away from the target gravity raise the temperature by 4 or 5 degrees. I've read that if you lager for more than a month especially if its 5C or below then you'll need to re-yeast. I'm going to lager for 5 weeks at about 5C then re-yeast with 4 grams of Nottingham and batch prime with 120 grams of sugar. Hope that helps. Nath on "Lager question" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/lager-question#post-30756 Tue, 07 Feb 2012 20:22:43 +0000 Nath 30756@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ My (only) all grain lager was fermented at 12c for 2 weeks then for a further 2 days at 20c (for a dicytal rest) and transferred to a secondary vessel for another 2 weeks, then bottled and left in the warm for 2 weeks again, and there was more than enough yeast to carbonate. 6 weeks after a 2-3 week ferment may be a bit close, If most of the yeast has settled out and the beer is bright when transferring into the bottle then you may have to add yeast. Why not decant a bottles worth after 5 weeks and prime, keep in the warm for a week and see how it goes - if it primes ok then you should be ok. If not then its time to add some yeast to bottle, but I dunno how much. SpeyBrew on "Lager question" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/lager-question#post-30730 Tue, 07 Feb 2012 18:36:09 +0000 SpeyBrew 30730@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Hi folks - Im now on my 4th brew which I did yesterday with some left overs. I used the saflager s23 yeast and the beer is now sitting in fv at 12C. I expect it will take 2 to 3 weeks to ferment. I have read a bit into lagering and that it should be done for about 6weeks in the cold. What I'm wondering is after lagering what's the best way to ensure proper carbonation? In my previous brews I have batch primed then bottled straight away. Is this still possible after the lagering or will new yeast need to be added? As I'm not sure on the effect 6weeks in the cold will have on the yeast. Any pointers greatly appreciated. saracen on "Help with Green King Export clone" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/help-with-green-king-export-clone#post-30727 Tue, 07 Feb 2012 18:27:13 +0000 saracen 30727@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ 1.010 is a good figure. It's 78.2% attenuation, so I would think the fermentation is done. It's actually more than you would expect from either of the yeasts specified. I see you used S-04 which I didn't expect would get to that figure and it's certainly close to Greene King characteristics. You must have done something right!! Personally, I try to leave the FV alone until it's time to barrel/bottle it, but there's no reason why you shouldn't rack it into a clean FV to settle, but it's one more time to expose it to potential infection. The problem with doing this is that you don't have a layer of Co2 over the beer to protect it. I would leave well alone for another week and see what it's like then. Can I suggest you re-post that link in the new FAQ section, maybe headed: 'New Brewers Post. Extract brew video.' I think and would be of great value to newcomers. themose on "Help with Green King Export clone" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/help-with-green-king-export-clone#post-30717 Tue, 07 Feb 2012 17:48:06 +0000 themose 30717@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Hi Saracen, Still got this in the fermenter. I took a hydrometer reading and its at 1.010 from 1.046. The smell I have to say does resemble the Greene King which (without tasting it) is good news. I'm toying with the idea of Racking this off into a carboy for a week or two as there seems a lot of gunk. What are your thoughts on secondary fermentation? saracen on "Help with Green King Export clone" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/help-with-green-king-export-clone#post-30692 Tue, 07 Feb 2012 13:55:47 +0000 saracen 30692@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Hi Ian The amount of DME you add to the initial boil depends on the brew and the other ingredients. To extract the Alpha Acid properly from the hops, the Specific Gravity of the boil needs to be the same as the Original Gravity of the recipe. If the recipe says OG 1.049, then the boil needs to be SG 1.049. To get that depends on all the fermentables in the recipe. If the recipe has 2.0 kg DME, 500 gms Crystal Malt and 900 gms of Sugar the OG will be 1.049 for a 23 lt recipe. If you are boiling 15 lts, you would need to add 1.3 kg of DME and the rest of the DME and all the sugar at the end of the boil. The easiest way to work it out is run the recipe through Beer Engine. Tick the OG box, remove any sugar included in the recipe and reduce the amount in the Volume box to the amount of the boil. This doesn't take account of the fermentables contributed by steeping, but that really won't have any effect. Ian on "Help with Green King Export clone" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/help-with-green-king-export-clone#post-30680 Tue, 07 Feb 2012 12:56:43 +0000 Ian 30680@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Just watched the'you tube' video from from link 8 - very well made and I learned something from it. Being fairly new to brewing, it appears that I have been making my extract brews wrong (only done 4 of them and they still tasted great)- I have a 19 litre stock pot so I was boiling about 15 litres of water then adding all the DME - then the hops at the required times. After watching the video (and reading a few items on this forum)I see that I should only be using half of the DME in the boil, then add the rest to te fermentor. Next brew - I'll be doing it this way - just waiting to build a brew fridge in a couple of weeks!!! Thanks all. saracen on "Extract #3 Prog Rocker APA" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/extract-3-prog-rocker-apa#post-30672 Tue, 07 Feb 2012 12:15:14 +0000 saracen 30672@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Hi Sean Looks good, but the boil time comcerns me. Boiling the hops extracts the Alpha Acid and the length and vigour of the boil is what isomerises it. It is generally held that you need a boil of at least 60 minutes to accomplish this, so most now go for 75 minutes to give a bit of safety margin. A schedule of 75 minutes main boil, with a 10 or 5 minute boil at the end for flavour and a post boil steep with 15 gm Nelson Sauvin would work well. Dried Malt Extract Pale 10 EBC 6 lbs. 9.8 oz 3000 grams 100% Yeast: S-04 Progress Whole 7.9 % 75 mins 0 lbs. 0.7 oz 20 grams 33% Nelson Sauvin Whole 12.7 % 75 mins 0 lbs. 0.7 oz 20 grams 53.1% Nelson Sauvin Whole 12.7 % 10 mins 0 lbs. 0.5 oz 15 grams 13.8% Nelson Sauvin Whole 12.7 % 0 mins 0 lbs. 0.5 oz 15 grams 0% (Steep at 80°c post boil for 30 minutes) Final Volume: 19 Litres Original Gravity: 1.055 Final Gravity: 1.012 Alcohol Content: 5.6% ABV Total Liquor: 23.9 Litres Bitterness: 53 EBU Colour: 16 EBC grmski on "Extract #3 Prog Rocker APA" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/extract-3-prog-rocker-apa#post-30670 Tue, 07 Feb 2012 12:01:26 +0000 grmski 30670@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Hi Sean, You should be fine adding all of the extract in at the start of the boil. As you are able to boil the full beer length in your burco you shouldn't need to top up. I'd hazard a guess that you'll have approximately a 10% evaporation rate per hour so if you want a 19 lrt in bottle beer then have beer engine set to this and go with the total liquor it recommends. This should take account of trub loss and evaporation. This thread has a bit of info on extract rates <a href="http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/extract-boiling-query" rel="nofollow">http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/extract-boiling-query</a> I made the Rocker APA last summer and it's a nice beer. Let us know how this one turns out. seancpfc on "Extract #3 Prog Rocker APA" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/extract-3-prog-rocker-apa#post-30621 Tue, 07 Feb 2012 00:56:24 +0000 seancpfc 30621@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Hi All, Having previously enjoyed both the Summer ale and Way to Amarillo extract brews it's time to bite the dust and experiment a bit more. I have some Progress hops left over and a pack of Nelson Sauvin as well as some DME and a pack of S04 yeast. So having played around with the Rocker APA recipie in Beer engine I have come up with this: Fermentable Colour lb: oz Grams Ratio Dried Malt Extract Pale 10 EBC 6 lbs. 9.8 oz 3000 grams 100% Hop Variety Type Alpha Time lb: oz grams Ratio Progress Whole 7.89 % 45 mins 0 lbs. 0.9 oz 25 grams 37.9% Nelson Sauvin Whole 12.7 % 45 mins 0 lbs. 0.7 oz 20 grams 48.9% Nelson Sauvin Whole 12.7 % 15 mins 0 lbs. 0.4 oz 10 grams 13.2% Nelson Sauvin Whole 12.7 % 0 mins 0 lbs. 0.7 oz 20 grams 0% Final Volume: 19 Litres Original Gravity: 1.055 Final Gravity: 1.012 Alcohol Content: 5.6% ABV Total Liquor: 23.9 Litres Mash Liquor: 0 Litres Mash Efficiency: 75 % Bitterness: 55.4297590705876 EBU Colour: 16 EBC Would appreciate any comments and help. I have a 33l burco boiler which works well and maintains a good rolling boil throughout so would I be correct in being able to add all the DME at the start of the boil as I'll be starting with the full 19l then topping the FV up with cold water to bring it back up to the full 19l post boil? Hops will be added at the appropriate times in a muslin bag. Thanks in advance Sean kilconlea on "Fuller's London Porter Extract brew" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/fullers-london-porter-extract-brew#post-30614 Mon, 06 Feb 2012 23:55:49 +0000 kilconlea 30614@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Saracen Spot on mate, got 1016. Maturing in the garage, gonna be my St Patrick's Day brew (if I can resist that long). saracen on "Help with Green King Export clone" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/help-with-green-king-export-clone#post-30586 Mon, 06 Feb 2012 23:07:12 +0000 saracen 30586@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Any news from the front with this one? Nath on "Summer Ale Brewing Time?" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/summer-ale-brewing-time#post-30538 Mon, 06 Feb 2012 21:42:06 +0000 Nath 30538@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ I personally done use a second fermenter and my beers good. I dont even dry hop in the secondary, I just wait until fermentation has died down and add the hops direct. saracen on "Brains Dark and Hobgoblin clones?" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/brains-dark-and-hobgoblin-clones#post-30517 Mon, 06 Feb 2012 20:04:32 +0000 saracen 30517@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Hi Squiffy. That recipe had some good feedback, but I have my reservations. I don't think hops added for the last 30 minutes are going to contribute anything useful, and I'm not sure that 22 EBU will be bitter enough. The recipe only calls for a yeast with 75% attenuation, which suits 1968 perfectly. I also don't quite understand why it has Carapils in it when it's not in the specification. Another reservation is that the spec says for smell; "Toffee, slight citrus, chocolate." I can see where they are all coming from, but only 15 gms of Styrians post boil could well be overpowered by the 15 gms of the stronger Fuggle. I think I'd just go with 20 gms Styrians. jimi_e1986 on "Summer Ale Brewing Time?" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/summer-ale-brewing-time#post-30504 Mon, 06 Feb 2012 18:10:42 +0000 jimi_e1986 30504@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Hello Nath, Thanks for the advice, Its good to hear that leaving the beer in the primary fermenter won't harm it. I was told before that leaving it in there for two weeks would be too long and it would develop bad flavours. I've always left my kits a good two weeks though and I thought they'd come out fine. Do you use a secondary fermenter if you leave it in the primary for that long? I have used my barrel as a secondary fermenter in the past to let it clear for a while before bottling. seamus48 on "Summer Ale Brewing Time?" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/summer-ale-brewing-time#post-30501 Mon, 06 Feb 2012 17:59:55 +0000 seamus48 30501@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ +1 For Summer Ale! <img src="http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_mrgreen.gif" title=":mrgreen:" class="bb_smilies" /> Nath on "Summer Ale Brewing Time?" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/summer-ale-brewing-time#post-30499 Mon, 06 Feb 2012 17:55:38 +0000 Nath 30499@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Ello! The beer may well have fermented out or if not then its obviously well on the way to it! Like you say its only 3.5% so it would be faster than normal, plus if you are fermenting in a warm area (20 and over) then it would go even faster. Plus s04 is a great, clean, fast fermenting yeast as well! Its still worth leaving the vessel alone for a good 10 days (some leave it more - I tend to go for around 14 days) Just to make sure and let the beer drop brighter. Summer Ale was my first extract kit. Trust me you won't be disappointed! jimi_e1986 on "Summer Ale Brewing Time?" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/summer-ale-brewing-time#post-30495 Mon, 06 Feb 2012 17:46:34 +0000 jimi_e1986 30495@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Hey all, I have recently bought the Brew UK Summer Ale recipe pack and made the brew 4 days ago. Yesterday, after just three days the airlock stopped bubbling. For the first two days is was fermenting very quickly, the airlock bubbled every 5 seconds or so. Is it possible that the beer could ferment out so quickly? This is my first extract brew, I have only ever brewed the tinned kits before. Has anyone else found that this beer ferments so fast? It is quite weak, the instructions say 3.5% so I guess there's not as much sugar to get through plus the sachet of S-04 said that it was a fast acting yeast. Any advice would be appreciated. James Sqiffy on "Brains Dark and Hobgoblin clones?" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/brains-dark-and-hobgoblin-clones#post-30478 Mon, 06 Feb 2012 12:49:27 +0000 Sqiffy 30478@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Thanks for the feedback/ advice guys. I'm going to keep a copy of the Hobgoblin recipe and try a couple of other extracts to get into the swing of it before I give the goblin a go. Newgale on "Extract boiling query" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/extract-boiling-query#post-30460 Mon, 06 Feb 2012 10:51:02 +0000 Newgale 30460@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Thanks both, think I understand the basics and will check out the boilers Technotrucker on "Extract boiling query" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/extract-boiling-query#post-30458 Mon, 06 Feb 2012 10:31:04 +0000 Technotrucker 30458@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Why not make a boiler like some of the guys on the forum have??. You pickup a plastic barrel and pop 2 cheap kettle elements in. Check this tread out by Goliath...<a href="http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/the-tme-has-come-ag-setup">HERE</a> You can find boilers on Ebay...<a href="http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Burco-Boiler-20-litre-VGC-/230738331644?pt=UK_BOI_Restaurant_RL&hash=item35b91387fc">HERE</a>...but they are not cheap.. I did my boiler the same, but I used a S/S pot. ps..found this one, starting off at £25..<a href="http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Burco-Boiler-10-litre-VGC-/230738332005?pt=UK_BOI_Restaurant_RL&hash=item35b9138965">Ebay</a> saracen on "Extract boiling query" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/extract-boiling-query#post-30430 Sun, 05 Feb 2012 23:20:49 +0000 saracen 30430@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Hi Newgate. Nice to meet you. When you boil a brew, there are a few things that happen, but for our purposes we only need to look at what happens to the hops. By boiling, you extract the Alpha Acid, which is the bittering agent, and over a 75 minutes boil, you isomerise it (make it soluble) so it mixes with the beer. The efficiency of this process depends on the specific gravity of the solution you are boiling the hops in. The higher the gravity, the less efficient the process is. When a recipe is formulated, this is taken into account, and for a given recipe the hops included will give the correct dgree of bitterness, but only if they are boiled in a liquid of the same Specific Gravity as the recipe was formulated for. That is why all Extract recipes will specify how much extract to add to a specified amount of water for the initial boil, because extract brewing usually relies on equipment that can only handle smaller boil volumes. The quantity of water, with the amount of extract specified, will give the correct gravity and therefore the correct extraction. If you have a boiler capable of boiling the full amount of water the recipe calls for as the final volume, then add all the extract at the start, as the gravity will be correct. E-bay might provide a cheap boiler, or Greg can supply you a big stockpot which is just as good. saracen on "Brains Dark and Hobgoblin clones?" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/brains-dark-and-hobgoblin-clones#post-30428 Sun, 05 Feb 2012 22:53:08 +0000 saracen 30428@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Well, there's an extract recipe conversion of the AG recipe Techno found to make 22 lts. Personally, I think you would do better to halve all the ingredients and make 11.0 lts. It's an awful lot if it's wrong. Also, recipes that call for a 60 minute boil don't make any allowance for incomplete isomerisation. To isomerise the Alpha Acid properly you need 75 minutes, as I've specified in the recipe. <img src="http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc440/paulws1953/hobo.jpg"> Dried Malt Extract Pale. 10 EBC. 3000 grams Crystal Malt. 130 EBC. 240 grams Carapils. 4 EBC. 190 grams Chocolate Malt. 1050 EBC. 145 grams Yeast: Wyeast 1968 or WLP 002 I chose this yeast as it leaves a residual sweetness, as seems to be suggested by the bitter/sweet balance in the spec. Matty used Wyeast 1318 London Ale III which will ferment a little drier. Styrian Goldings (Celia) Whole. AA 4.17%. 75 mins. 15 grams Fuggle Whole. AA 4.9%. 75 mins. 15 grams Styrian Goldings (Celia) Whole. AA 4.17% 30 mins 15 grams Fuggle Whole. AA 4.9 % 30 mins 15 grams Styrian Goldings (Celia) Whole. AA 4.17%. 0 mins. 15 grams 16.7% (Steep 30 minutes at 80°c Post boil) Fuggle Whole. AA 4.9%. 0 mins. 15 grams. 16.7% (Steep 30 minutes at 80°c Post boil) Final Volume: 22 Litres Original Gravity: 1.053 Final Gravity: 1.013 Alcohol Content: 5.2% ABV Bitterness: 22 EBU Colour: 76 EBC Newgale on "Extract boiling query" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/extract-boiling-query#post-30427 Sun, 05 Feb 2012 22:19:58 +0000 Newgale 30427@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Hi all. I'm new to the extract brewing method and have just bottled a recipe using a 3litre boil of the malt,etc on the stove. I've read a few books that require boiling the entire 25l. Can you tell me what the advantages of this are? Any suggestions for a budget boiler as they all seem pretty expensive?! Thanks all StueyJ on "Brains Dark and Hobgoblin clones?" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/brains-dark-and-hobgoblin-clones#post-30426 Sun, 05 Feb 2012 22:00:32 +0000 StueyJ 30426@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ That pan is great but you might as well do all grain if you get it. You don't need such a big one for extract - the tap works fine btw. Technotrucker on "Brains Dark and Hobgoblin clones?" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/brains-dark-and-hobgoblin-clones#post-30425 Sun, 05 Feb 2012 21:55:07 +0000 Technotrucker 30425@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Just found this extract one for you..<a href="http://www.ushould.co.uk/brew/recipes/Hobgoblin%20Clone.htm">HERE</a> Best of luck if you go for it..<a href="http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php"><img src="http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-score010.gif"></a> Technotrucker on "Brains Dark and Hobgoblin clones?" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/brains-dark-and-hobgoblin-clones#post-30424 Sun, 05 Feb 2012 21:49:21 +0000 Technotrucker 30424@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Sqiffy found this <a href="http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/gobhoblin-a-hobgoblin-clone">ONE</a> but it's AG..wonder if Saracen could knock up an extract from it for you??. Sqiffy on "Brains Dark and Hobgoblin clones?" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/brains-dark-and-hobgoblin-clones#post-30422 Sun, 05 Feb 2012 21:32:53 +0000 Sqiffy 30422@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Thanks TT, appreciated. <img src="http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_smile.gif" title=":)" class="bb_smilies" /> Technotrucker on "Brains Dark and Hobgoblin clones?" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/brains-dark-and-hobgoblin-clones#post-30421 Sun, 05 Feb 2012 21:31:43 +0000 Technotrucker 30421@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Nothing wrong with it...will do the job ok, the tap is a standard tap, it's up too the job, I have the same fitted to my mash tun, boiler no problem. Can't help with Brains dark, did have a AG Hobgoblin clone some where, not done it for years, if I find it will let you know. Sqiffy on "Brains Dark and Hobgoblin clones?" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/brains-dark-and-hobgoblin-clones#post-30420 Sun, 05 Feb 2012 21:09:02 +0000 Sqiffy 30420@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ I'm thinking of taking my first foray into extract brewing. I was toying with the idea of buying one of these... <a href="http://www.brewuk.co.uk/store/ag-equipment/32l-stainless-pan.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.brewuk.co.uk/store/ag-equipment/32l-stainless-pan.html</a> Will it do the job? How robust is the tap likely to be? I am looking to clone Brains Dark and Hobgoblin. Does anyone have good recipes for either of them? oldbrewer on "New Year Brew" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/new-year-brew#post-30338 Sun, 05 Feb 2012 11:49:46 +0000 oldbrewer 30338@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ The Old Peculier brewed as a New Year brew has now conditioned for a few weeks (I have a few bottles left). Colour is campatable with the shop bought, taiste is slightly different, but not a lot, and has a very nice liquorice after-taste reminiscent of the dark ales of yesteryear. Very pleased with the finished ale and will do another when the planned mild is in the bottles. Nath on "hops storage" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/hops-storage#post-30331 Sun, 05 Feb 2012 11:08:55 +0000 Nath 30331@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Nope, it will be fine. Some people like to keep hops at fridge temp while others like to freeze them. I keep mine in a fridge personally. nuck-thompson on "hops storage" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/hops-storage#post-30328 Sun, 05 Feb 2012 11:00:10 +0000 nuck-thompson 30328@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ To note its still in ingredient form it is not brewed in any way, still In packaging nuck-thompson on "hops storage" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/hops-storage#post-30327 Sun, 05 Feb 2012 10:58:55 +0000 nuck-thompson 30327@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Hi, so I've got my WTA recipe in my garage at the moment which is only a few degrees over what its like outside. Is this causing any damage ? seamus48 on "Which Extract Kits do you want first?" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/which-extract-kits-do-you-want-first#post-30276 Sat, 04 Feb 2012 21:27:35 +0000 seamus48 30276@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ <img src="http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_eek.gif" title="8O" class="bb_smilies" /> <img src="http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_eek.gif" title="8O" class="bb_smilies" /> <img src="http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_eek.gif" title="8O" class="bb_smilies" /> Mark on "Which Extract Kits do you want first?" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/which-extract-kits-do-you-want-first#post-30273 Sat, 04 Feb 2012 21:13:37 +0000 Mark 30273@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Cool, hope all goes to plan in roughly 6 weeks time <img src="http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_biggrin.gif" title=":D" class="bb_smilies" /> But i reckon you will find it easier knocking out a brew lol <img src="http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_wink.gif" title=":wink:" class="bb_smilies" /> madlen_lieb on "Which Extract Kits do you want first?" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/which-extract-kits-do-you-want-first#post-30268 Sat, 04 Feb 2012 21:02:23 +0000 madlen_lieb 30268@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ new arrival in the family <img src="http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_smile.gif" title=":)" class="bb_smilies" /> 38 days to go <img src="http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_smile.gif" title=":)" class="bb_smilies" /> and than i will be to tiered to have a drink, but at least i can have a sample taste <img src="http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_smile.gif" title=":)" class="bb_smilies" /> hopefully it will be an other master brewer to be Mark on "Which Extract Kits do you want first?" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/which-extract-kits-do-you-want-first#post-30260 Sat, 04 Feb 2012 20:30:25 +0000 Mark 30260@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ madlen glad to see you do not drink that watery pi$$ <img src="http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_biggrin.gif" title=":D" class="bb_smilies" /> Why can you not drink for the next 2 months? Hope it's not down to a health problem. madlen_lieb on "Which Extract Kits do you want first?" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/which-extract-kits-do-you-want-first#post-30252 Sat, 04 Feb 2012 20:18:23 +0000 madlen_lieb 30252@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ i don't drink it, my brother in law :p (i think the same from stout <img src="http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_sad.gif" title=":(" class="bb_smilies" /> ) friends just asked for it for next party as a refill of the "old" bottles i am not allowed to drink for the next 2 months anyhow, or at least only alcohol free <img src="http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_sad.gif" title=":(" class="bb_smilies" /> no fun brewing if you can't sample :'( seamus48 on "Making a yeast starter" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/making-a-yeast-starter-1#post-30241 Sat, 04 Feb 2012 19:52:27 +0000 seamus48 30241@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Cos I'm indecisive... and then thought feck I wanna brew something today, plus brew buddy son talked me into it for a whole bunch of good reasons... <img src="http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_redface.gif" title=":oops:" class="bb_smilies" /> Mark on "Making a yeast starter" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/making-a-yeast-starter-1#post-30239 Sat, 04 Feb 2012 19:50:30 +0000 Mark 30239@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ I see you decided to smack the pack and pitch it, why the change of mind not splitting and making a starter? Mark on "Making a yeast starter" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/making-a-yeast-starter-1#post-30200 Sat, 04 Feb 2012 12:45:37 +0000 Mark 30200@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ In that case with the wyeast don't bother smacking the pack as it is fresh and you don't want any nutrient/fermentables in the jar when it is keeping in the fridge. seamus48 on "Making a yeast starter" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/making-a-yeast-starter-1#post-30199 Sat, 04 Feb 2012 12:42:19 +0000 seamus48 30199@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Yarp... Mark on "Making a yeast starter" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/making-a-yeast-starter-1#post-30198 Sat, 04 Feb 2012 12:40:32 +0000 Mark 30198@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Yes so you will have a starter to go in the FV and will you be putting one in the fridge as well? This is the wyeast i am talking about. seamus48 on "Making a yeast starter" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/making-a-yeast-starter-1#post-30197 Sat, 04 Feb 2012 12:36:11 +0000 seamus48 30197@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ I was planning on doing both yeasts. Mark on "Making a yeast starter" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/making-a-yeast-starter-1#post-30190 Sat, 04 Feb 2012 12:10:37 +0000 Mark 30190@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Seamus are you splitting the wyeast? seamus48 on "Making a yeast starter" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/making-a-yeast-starter-1#post-30177 Sat, 04 Feb 2012 11:26:28 +0000 seamus48 30177@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Ok, so, I'll snatch 200g of DME from the LP and WTA kits to make up 2 starters etc for the WLP002 and the wyeast. When doing the wyeast, do I smack the pack and mix it all together before adding it to the DME mix or not? Also, is it poss to replace the stolen DME with 200g of brewing sugar in each one to keep the same total volume or is it not worth it? Kilifin on "Stout Extract Recipe" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/stout-extract-recipe#post-30147 Sat, 04 Feb 2012 02:58:31 +0000 Kilifin 30147@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Sorry for sounding like a dope but could anyone please put the exact brewing instructions up for me please. I'd love to try this but have never done an extract brew before so step by step instructions would be perfect! Would really appreciate it cheers seamus48 on "Which Extract Kits do you want first?" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/which-extract-kits-do-you-want-first#post-30115 Sat, 04 Feb 2012 00:12:02 +0000 seamus48 30115@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Mark, someone's got to drink it... else we won't get the empties <img src="http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_mrgreen.gif" title=":mrgreen:" class="bb_smilies" /> Mark on "Which Extract Kits do you want first?" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/which-extract-kits-do-you-want-first#post-30114 Sat, 04 Feb 2012 00:10:25 +0000 Mark 30114@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ MadLen how comes you want a grolsch like lager? In my opinion it is very watery and not nice tasting. I often buy it just for the bottles and drink it for the sake of it rather than tipping it down the toilet where the pi$$ goes. Hamish on "Making a yeast starter" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/making-a-yeast-starter-1#post-30088 Fri, 03 Feb 2012 20:56:24 +0000 Hamish 30088@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ <blockquote>If you dont want to keep some of the yeast can you just tip it in without making a starter?</blockquote> Yes. But I think its best to make a starter, despite what Wyeast say, you'll get a much better fermentation. Compared to commercial practice it really is a tiny amount of yeast. Make sure the yeast pack is at room temperature. Heat a litre of water, borrow 100 grams of DME from the kit, add to the water, bring to the boil and simmer for 10 minutes stirring occasionally. Cool to 25C pitch the yeast shake well. Every time you pass give the starter a swirl if you haven't got a stir plate. When its fermented out get the yeast back into suspension and tip the lot into the wort. <img src="http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_smile.gif" title=":-)" class="bb_smilies" /> seamus48 on "Making a yeast starter" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/making-a-yeast-starter-1#post-30083 Fri, 03 Feb 2012 20:41:30 +0000 seamus48 30083@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Thanks Saracen, I may just use the wyeast as is but try to cultivate the WLP002 as an learning experiment if nothing else. <img src="http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_mrgreen.gif" title=":mrgreen:" class="bb_smilies" /> beerlover1983 on "Making a yeast starter" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/making-a-yeast-starter-1#post-30080 Fri, 03 Feb 2012 20:26:53 +0000 beerlover1983 30080@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ great question putting a order in myself .If you dont want to keep some of the yeast can you just tip it in without making a starter? saracen on "Adding DME to a boiler?" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/adding-dme-to-a-boiler#post-30079 Fri, 03 Feb 2012 20:12:21 +0000 saracen 30079@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Hi Mech. Probably best to do it in a separate pot. Heat the water to about 60° - 70°c and add the DME slowly, using a balloon egg whisk and whisking violently to make sure it all dissolves. If you have the water much hotter, the DME starts to stick to the pack. saracen on "Making a yeast starter" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/making-a-yeast-starter-1#post-30078 Fri, 03 Feb 2012 20:08:26 +0000 saracen 30078@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Hi Seamus. The volume of the kits has been adjusted to use round kilos and half kilos of DME, because it comes packaged that way, and it's a wole lot easier all round. Also, GW's recipes don't always come out spot on, so a few adjustments are needed, which is often why some of the recipes call for small amounts of sugar to adjust the ABV without adding colour. The extra 80 gms of DME doesn't raise the ABV by any appreciable amount and as we know it's difficult to reach the stated ABV it will have a better chance. The TTL has a reduced amount for the same reasons, but you'll see the volume is 21.0 lts. For a starter you only need 200 gms of DME for each yeast pack, so you could cut down the volume of the London Pride kit to release 400 gms of DME. London Pride to 19.0 lts. Dried Malt Pale. 5.5 EBC. 2070 grams. 92.2% Crystal Malt. 130 EBC. 305 grams. 7.8% Target Whole. AA 12.5%. 90 mins. 10 grams. 51.7% Challenger Whole. AA 8.2%. 90 mins. 6 grams. 21.6% Northdown Whole. AA 7.7%. 90 mins. 6 grams. 20.2% Golding Whole. AA 5.7%. 10 mins. 8 grams. 6.5% Golding Whole. AA 5.7%. 0 mins 10 grams. 0% (Dry hopping) Final Volume: 19 Litres Original Gravity: 1.041 Final Gravity: 1.010 Alcohol Content: 4% ABV Bitterness: 31 EBU madlen_lieb on "Which Extract Kits do you want first?" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/which-extract-kits-do-you-want-first#post-30077 Fri, 03 Feb 2012 20:02:28 +0000 madlen_lieb 30077@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ don't worry, we have about 6 sets <img src="http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_smile.gif" title=":)" class="bb_smilies" /> seamus48 on "Which Extract Kits do you want first?" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/which-extract-kits-do-you-want-first#post-30076 Fri, 03 Feb 2012 19:54:39 +0000 seamus48 30076@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Only if it comes with the flip top bottles... <img src="http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_eek.gif" title="8O" class="bb_smilies" /> madlen_lieb on "Which Extract Kits do you want first?" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/which-extract-kits-do-you-want-first#post-30071 Fri, 03 Feb 2012 19:40:31 +0000 madlen_lieb 30071@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ hi greg, how about a lager (grolshlike) or (mai)bock aswell? lg madlen seamus48 on "Making a yeast starter" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/making-a-yeast-starter-1#post-30034 Fri, 03 Feb 2012 13:03:12 +0000 seamus48 30034@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Ok, so the TTL recipe laid out by Saracen (I think) on another recent thread says 2740g of DME are required but the kit only came with 2500g, and the LP recipe (again Saracen I think) says 2420g of DME but again the kit came with 2500 and says to add it all... <img src="http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_eek.gif" title="8O" class="bb_smilies" /> I'm still wondering if I can rob a little DME to make up a starter etc for the WLP002 and use the nutrients in the smack pack wyeast to do the same for that one... seamus48 on "Making a yeast starter" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/making-a-yeast-starter-1#post-30033 Fri, 03 Feb 2012 12:53:36 +0000 seamus48 30033@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ I'll go back and look at the recipes again and see if the whole 2.5kg of DME is required for each brew then and see if it is poss to 'borrow' some. Mark on "Making a yeast starter" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/making-a-yeast-starter-1#post-30024 Fri, 03 Feb 2012 12:23:02 +0000 Mark 30024@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Hi Seamus No you cannot use brewing sugar I asked this question in post 21 in the link below, also go back a few posts and Saracen and Nath explain it all in detail to me about making the yeast starter. <a href="http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/best-beerk-kit-available-on-this-site" rel="nofollow">http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/best-beerk-kit-available-on-this-site</a> VSat on "Making a yeast starter" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/making-a-yeast-starter-1#post-30023 Fri, 03 Feb 2012 12:21:41 +0000 VSat 30023@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Don't use brewing sugar as it the yeast will munch on it, become lazy and won't multiply. Use light DME to make your starter. Look at "strongandco" on You Tube. He has some excellent videos and one on how to make a starter. I would postpone your brew til you get some more DME <img src="http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_smile.gif" title=":-)" class="bb_smilies" /> Goliath on "Which Extract Kits do you want first?" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/which-extract-kits-do-you-want-first#post-30022 Fri, 03 Feb 2012 12:20:18 +0000 Goliath 30022@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Got my Ringwood kit yesterday <img src="http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_smile.gif" title=":)" class="bb_smilies" /> Just waiting for my temp controller and then I'll get her on the go! seamus48 on "Making a yeast starter" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/making-a-yeast-starter-1#post-30018 Fri, 03 Feb 2012 11:59:32 +0000 seamus48 30018@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Ok and Yippee!!! Big box arrived from Greg today with 3 lovely new extract kits in so a double brew day is in the offing for sunday. However, the TTL and the Pride kits were ordered with liquid yeasts, Wyeast1469 and WLP002. We have not used liquid yeasts before so are really looking forward to trying them but, GW says in his book that making a starter is essential. I also want to retain some of the yeast for future use too. I think I understand how it is supposed to work but GW says to use DME to make up the starter. Obviously I have only have the amount of DME that comes with the recipe packs so don't want to steal any of that to make up a starter. I do have a kilo of brewing sugar in the cupboard so I wonder can I use that instead? If so, what's the best way to proceed? <img src="http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_question.gif" title=":?:" class="bb_smilies" /> TheMullett on "Adding DME to a boiler?" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/adding-dme-to-a-boiler#post-30010 Fri, 03 Feb 2012 10:21:06 +0000 TheMullett 30010@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ I recently did my first brew using DME in my Swan Boiler. I added the DME during the boil whilst the boiler was on and I did have a small amount stuck to the element but it didn't appear burnt and it cleaned off easy. Though the element on the Swan is hidden and therefore easy to clean. That said next time I'll bring the water to boil, switch off the boiler, dissolve the DME then bring it back to boil. Mech on "Adding DME to a boiler?" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/adding-dme-to-a-boiler#post-29969 Thu, 02 Feb 2012 23:51:38 +0000 Mech 29969@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Hi all, Doing a Way to Amarillo extract kit tomorrow, I have a new Brupak boiler and might as well use to do the full amount. How do I add the DME? I've heard if you get the element coated in anything it will cut out, don't really want that half way through a boil <img src="http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_cry.gif" title=":cry:" class="bb_smilies" /> Would it be best to dissolve the DME in a seperate stockpot then add it to the boiler? saracen on "Which Extract Kits do you want first?" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/which-extract-kits-do-you-want-first#post-29966 Thu, 02 Feb 2012 23:20:47 +0000 saracen 29966@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ The Ringwood yeast is Wyeast 1187. The WLP 005 is reckoned to be the same, although not sold as Ringwood. prince_of_spain on "Very low OG?" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/very-low-og#post-29948 Thu, 02 Feb 2012 18:19:45 +0000 prince_of_spain 29948@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ OK, hydrometer is fine. Looks like either I didn't dissolve the DME properly or Billingtons/ Morrisons sugar is no use. I'll definitely go back to using the drill and plasters paddle when dissolving the DME. beerlover1983 on "Which Extract Kits do you want first?" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/which-extract-kits-do-you-want-first#post-29946 Thu, 02 Feb 2012 18:09:47 +0000 beerlover1983 29946@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ So great to see some of the packs up cant wait to get ordering.What os the preferd yeast for the Ringwood 49er as theres a choice of 3? prince_of_spain on "Very low OG?" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/very-low-og#post-29910 Thu, 02 Feb 2012 11:44:14 +0000 prince_of_spain 29910@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Hey Saracen, Pretty much identical to the recipie you've given. I'll see if the hydrometer is OK tonight. Ralph on "Head Zinger IPA - Extract Recipe" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/head-zinger-ipa-extract-recipe#post-29893 Wed, 01 Feb 2012 23:15:34 +0000 Ralph 29893@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Cheers for the replies, Will stick with what it is then and give this recipe a go and see what happens!! Will report back soon! Thanks Again Nath on "Head Zinger IPA - Extract Recipe" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/head-zinger-ipa-extract-recipe#post-29891 Wed, 01 Feb 2012 22:45:49 +0000 Nath 29891@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ <blockquote>I am using Beer Alchemy for the mac not sure if that is why we are getting a few differences?? Have made a few of the tweaks as suggested see below. But still getting a IBU of 42. Should i have preferred hop formula set to: Tinseth, Daniels, Rager or Garetz? </blockquote> Yup, I find that with my beer software I get differences in IBU's and EBC. I use Beersmith and Beerengine and both come out different! saracen on "Head Zinger IPA - Extract Recipe" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/head-zinger-ipa-extract-recipe#post-29888 Wed, 01 Feb 2012 22:35:33 +0000 saracen 29888@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ I really couldn't tell you how the various scales are set, except to say that Beer Engine only gives the option to set to Tinseth or set to Linear. It's set to Tinseth. That's why I like it; simple and reliable. There is no option for setting a colour scale, and as everyone uses EBC (except across the pond where they insist on being different and over-complicated) that's the only scale Beer Engine uses. Regardless of which program you use, the figures should be the same, unless you've got some alternative brewing system selected. Beersmith has loads of different ways of doing it. After all, for a givem amount of ingredients you'll get the same colour, EBU and ABV. I'm fairly sure Greg uses Beer Alchemy on a Mac, so if you mail him I'm sure he'll give you a run down of how he sets the program. saracen on "Very low OG?" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/very-low-og#post-29886 Wed, 01 Feb 2012 22:25:32 +0000 saracen 29886@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ This is the Extract recipe Brew UK will be supplying as a kit to brew 22 lts of Batemans Salem Porter. It's a 75 minute boil, using 700 gms of Extract in 8.0 lts of water for the initial boil, 37 gms of Cahllenger for 75 minutes and 14 gms of Golding for the last 10 minutes. Does it differ from yours? Dried Malt Extract Pale. 10 EBC. 2000 grams 66.6% Sugar, Household White. 0 EBC. 560 grams 20.1% Crystal Malt. 130 EBC. 480 grams 9.1% Roasted Barley. 1350 EBC. 220 grams 4.1% Challenger Whole. AA 8.2%. 75 mins. 37 grams 91.8% Golding Whole. AA 5.7%. 10 mins. 14 grams 8.2% Final Volume: 22 Litres Original Gravity: 1.048 Final Gravity: 1.008 Alcohol Content: 5.2% ABV Bitterness: 37 EBU Colour: 132 EBC prince_of_spain on "Very low OG?" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/very-low-og#post-29884 Wed, 01 Feb 2012 22:12:36 +0000 prince_of_spain 29884@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Sorry, 1030 before I added the yeast. prince_of_spain on "Very low OG?" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/very-low-og#post-29883 Wed, 01 Feb 2012 22:11:52 +0000 prince_of_spain 29883@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Hi Nath, Just checked the hydrometer. It's calibrated to 20c, which is worse. I'm fairly sure the DME dissolved, no lumps or anything. I steeped the grains first at about 68c, let the wort cool to about 40c and then added the DME. Got everything up to the boil and and got the hops in. No boil overs etc. A really stressless brew TBH. I've got a 15l stock pan. I did have about 8l in there in case of boil over, which didn't happen. A pretty concentrated wort but I don't think it would have this much of an effect. I'm stumpted <img src="http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_redface.gif" title=":oops:" class="bb_smilies" /> Ralph on "Head Zinger IPA - Extract Recipe" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/head-zinger-ipa-extract-recipe#post-29882 Wed, 01 Feb 2012 22:09:59 +0000 Ralph 29882@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Hi Saracen, Thanks for the reply. I am using Beer Alchemy for the mac not sure if that is why we are getting a few differences?? Have made a few of the tweaks as suggested see below. But still getting a IBU of 42. Should i have preferred hop formula set to: Tinseth, Daniels, Rager or Garetz? At the moment i have it set to Tinseth. If you look below i think you must be using Garetz? Not really got my head round all this yet... Also what should i be using for colour? Are you using Daniels? Final Volume: 12 Litres Original Gravity: 1.062 Final Gravity: 1.015 Alcohol Content: 6.3% ABV Bitterness: Expected IBU (using Tinseth): 42.4 IBU or Expected IBU (using Garetz): 36.6 IBU Colour: 12.9 EBC (using Morey) or Expected Color (using Daniels): 19.9 EBC UK Light Crystal 0.150 kg 7.0 % 4.4 In Mash/Steeped Extract - Light Dried Malt Extract 1.500 kg 69.8 % 3.1 Start Of Boil Extract - Light Dried Malt Extract 0.500 kg 23.3 % 1.0 End Of Boil NZ Nelson Sauvin 12.7 % 12 g 29.0 Loose Whole Hops 60 Min From End US Cascade 6.8 % 10 g 4.7 Loose Whole Hops 10 Min From End NZ Nelson Sauvin 12.7 % 10 g 8.8 Loose Whole Hops 10 Min From End US Cascade 6.8 % 15 g 0.0 Loose Whole Hops At turn off NZ Nelson Sauvin 12.7 % 15 g 0.0 Loose Whole Hops At turn off US Cascade 6.8 % 15 g 0.0 Loose Whole Hops Dry-Hopped Anyway loads of questions but getting there. Going to put my order in tomorrow. All the help is much appreciated, Thanks Nath on "Very low OG?" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/very-low-og#post-29881 Wed, 01 Feb 2012 22:05:32 +0000 Nath 29881@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Most hydrometers are calibrated at 15c so the reading wont be off by much. Are you sure all the dme dissolved ok? Did you have any boil overs or add too much water as its quite a low reading. Did you double check the recipe and what happened on the brewday? I would check your hydrometer by putting it in room temp water to make sure the paper reading inside the tube has not slipped. Plus you said you just measured the og, but also the wort had been in the flat for 2 days, so was it 1030 before you added the yeast or 1030 now? prince_of_spain on "Very low OG?" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/very-low-og#post-29880 Wed, 01 Feb 2012 21:46:51 +0000 prince_of_spain 29880@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Hey folks, some help required. I've just measured the OG of my extract clone of Batemans Salem Porter from GW's book. The OG was 1030, should be around the 1048 mark according to the book. I did have to substitute some demerara and sugar crystals as there wasn't enough regular sugar in the cupboard. I did have a quick look on the web for info and it seems this is OK to do. The wort was sitting for a couple of days in the flat, I reckon the average temperature in the flat is about 12 degrees just now, which makes my reading even worse! Any ideas where I may have cocked up? Cheers, Kev. saracen on "Head Zinger IPA - Extract Recipe" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/head-zinger-ipa-extract-recipe#post-29865 Wed, 01 Feb 2012 18:50:51 +0000 saracen 29865@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Looks like a good plan. Should be a good beer. There are a couple of things you might want to think about and your figures don't add up. Dried Malt Extract Pale. 10 EBC. 1500 grams. 71% of Extract Dried Malt Ext. Xtra Pale. 5.5 EBC. 500 grams. 23.7% of Extract Crystal Malt, Pale. 60 EBC. 200 grams. 5.3% of Extract Nelson Sauvin Whole. AA 12.7%. 75 mins. 12 grams 69.3% of EBU Cascade Whole. AA 6.8%. 10 mins. 10 grams 10.7% of EBU Nelson Sauvin Whole. AA 12.7%. 10 mins. 10 grams 20% of EBU Cascade Whole AA 6.8%. 0 mins. 15 grams 0% of EBU Nelson Sauvin Whole AA 12.7%. 0 mins. 15 grams 0% of EBU Cascade Whole AA 6.8 % 0 mins. 15 grams 0% of EBU Final Volume: 12 Litres Original Gravity: 1.062 Final Gravity: 1.014 Alcohol Content: 6.2% ABV Bitterness: 36 EBU Colour: 22 EBC Reduce the amount of Crystal to a maximum of 200 gms, or even 150. It gives a heavy, sweet character if used as more than about 5% - 7% of the total extract. 10% is reckoned to be absolute maximum. Steeping the Crystal Malt. Put 10 lt of water into a pan, raise the temperature to 70°c and steep the grains for 30 minutes. Monitor the temperature and raise the temperature if it falls below 66°c. For the initial boil only use the 1.5 kg of Pale Malt Extract or you will reduce the efficiency of the Alpha Acid extraction. Add the rest at the end of the boil. I've extended the boil time to 75 minutes. 60 minutes isn't really enough to isomerise the Alpha Acid properly. 75 is just about right. Where are you getting 45 EBU. Even with the extended boil, I've only got 36. If you want more bitterness, increase the initial amount of NS to 20 gms to give 53 EBU. With 6.2% ABV this should be OK, and it also brings the initial bitterness figure up to 79% of the EBU which will give less harsh bitterness. Ralph on "Head Zinger IPA - Extract Recipe" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/head-zinger-ipa-extract-recipe#post-29861 Wed, 01 Feb 2012 18:23:25 +0000 Ralph 29861@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Hey Finally going to get an order in for stuff need to make this up, have decided to scale it back to a 12L batch as I would like to brew more regularly and try out load of different recipes so I think small scale batches are the way to go for me. Anyway recipe below if someone wise could cast an eye over it make sure there is nothing silly in there, been a few changes since the original Batch size: 12L OG: 1.060 FG: 1.014 IBU: 45 ABV: 6.0% Grain Pre Boil tea 10L of water in pan 250g Light crystal malt (crushed) - steep till water reaches 77C Fermentable - boil 1.5kg Light malt extract 500g Spraymalt extra light (at end of boil) Hops 12g Nelson sauvin (60mins) 10g Cascade (10mins) 10g Nelson sauvin (10mins) 1 Protafloc (10 mins) 15g Cascade (end of boil) 15g Nelson sauvin (end of boil) Rapid cool to 15-22C, into FV, top up with 2L of water Yeast Wyeast 1056 - American Ale 15g Cascade dry hop (day 4-7) Thats the plan. seamus48 on "Which Extract Kits do you want first?" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/which-extract-kits-do-you-want-first#post-29830 Tue, 31 Jan 2012 23:46:22 +0000 seamus48 29830@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Thanks mate but it's the recipe packs I want. More economical when trying a new brew rather than ending up with loads of odds 'n sods. <img src="http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_redface.gif" title=":oops:" class="bb_smilies" /> saracen on "Which Extract Kits do you want first?" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/which-extract-kits-do-you-want-first#post-29829 Tue, 31 Jan 2012 23:38:32 +0000 saracen 29829@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Seamus, if it's just the recipe you want I can post them for you. seamus48 on "Which Extract Kits do you want first?" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/which-extract-kits-do-you-want-first#post-29825 Tue, 31 Jan 2012 23:33:03 +0000 seamus48 29825@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Hey no worries Greg... <img src="http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_mrgreen.gif" title=":mrgreen:" class="bb_smilies" /> saracen on "Which Extract Kits do you want first?" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/which-extract-kits-do-you-want-first#post-29823 Tue, 31 Jan 2012 23:29:41 +0000 saracen 29823@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ I've tried my best to get these recipes right, but we're all human and we can all make mistakes. If you have any queries or questions, please ask. It might just be we uncover a problem before it does any damage. Greg on "Which Extract Kits do you want first?" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/which-extract-kits-do-you-want-first#post-29822 Tue, 31 Jan 2012 23:22:15 +0000 Greg 29822@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Hi Seamus, sorry I haven't added the recipes yet as I need to reorganise the drop down to a menu page as it is getting too long so the recipes are on there yet but some of the most requested kits are. More will follow in the next few days. seamus48 on "Which Extract Kits do you want first?" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/which-extract-kits-do-you-want-first#post-29820 Tue, 31 Jan 2012 22:54:33 +0000 seamus48 29820@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Ah... you're right Craig, a few new ones have appeared in the shop but aren't linked on the 'recipe' drop-down list yet... which of course is what I have been checking daily. Doh! <img src="http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_redface.gif" title=":oops:" class="bb_smilies" /> Nath on "Help with Green King Export clone" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/help-with-green-king-export-clone#post-29819 Tue, 31 Jan 2012 22:54:12 +0000 Nath 29819@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Great Video, really easy to follow. Well done Dr Saracen on all the help. craig on "Which Extract Kits do you want first?" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/which-extract-kits-do-you-want-first#post-29817 Tue, 31 Jan 2012 22:45:06 +0000 craig 29817@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ They're ready to buy! A fair few at least... seamus48 on "Which Extract Kits do you want first?" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/which-extract-kits-do-you-want-first#post-29815 Tue, 31 Jan 2012 22:31:46 +0000 seamus48 29815@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ C'mon already... I wanna put an order in and get a couple in their FVs before going back on shift next week! <img src="http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_wink.gif" title=":wink:" class="bb_smilies" /> saracen on "dogfish IPA clone recipe" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/dogfish-ipa-clone-recipe#post-29813 Tue, 31 Jan 2012 22:15:29 +0000 saracen 29813@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Yes, no problem posting a recipe. If it's published, then there shouldn't be any reason not to as it's already in the public domain. All I can say is, give it a go. Life's one big experiment anyway. You'll probably end up with something good. If I was doing it I think I'd halve all the ingredients to get the cost a bit more realistic, and have a bit less if it turns out iffy. We've come quite a long way from the first recipe in this post. saracen on "Help with Green King Export clone" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/help-with-green-king-export-clone#post-29812 Tue, 31 Jan 2012 22:11:01 +0000 saracen 29812@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Hi Themose I enjoyed that. You make a very good tutorial video. Only improvement I'd suggest is to use a balloon whisk when it comes to adding the DME. You'll find it a lot quicker. Leave it all untouched in the FV for 14 days, then bottle/barrel. 85 gms sugar for barreling, 120 gms for bottling. Well done. Only wish I could brew something and end up as neat and tidy as you. All we have to do now is pray to the Lord it comes up somewhere near!! garrycav on "Stout Extract Recipe" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/stout-extract-recipe#post-29794 Tue, 31 Jan 2012 20:30:30 +0000 garrycav 29794@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ It is a really good stout with more hop flavour due to the late additions. Nothing like Marstons Oyster Stout I'm afraid, I love Oyster stouts. themose on "Help with Green King Export clone" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/help-with-green-king-export-clone#post-29778 Tue, 31 Jan 2012 15:33:38 +0000 themose 29778@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Hi Saracen, I made a video of it being made the other day. <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1xwhW4NfsI" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1xwhW4NfsI</a> Check it out. Let me know if I did anything different to your recipe. Remember this is my first attempt at a partial mash.. Thanks again Ralph on "dogfish IPA clone recipe" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/dogfish-ipa-clone-recipe#post-29769 Tue, 31 Jan 2012 12:55:54 +0000 Ralph 29769@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Ok Step 1 from the recipe: 1. In a Brew kettle, heat 6 Gallons (23L) of water to 150F (66C). In a grain bag, add the crushed British amber malt. Allow to steep for 15 minutes. At no other point in the recipe does he add any more water. I can post the full recipe, but not sure if this aloud?? VSat on "dogfish IPA clone recipe" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/dogfish-ipa-clone-recipe#post-29768 Tue, 31 Jan 2012 11:02:07 +0000 VSat 29768@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ There's a bloke on youtube who does this recipe and adds all the hops gradually over an hour. Strange way of doing things, but hey ho! saracen on "dogfish IPA clone recipe" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/dogfish-ipa-clone-recipe#post-29759 Mon, 30 Jan 2012 23:55:14 +0000 saracen 29759@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Ok. Still not quite clear with it. If you start with 23 lts and use 15 gms of Warrior at 18.2% AA you are going to get something very bitter, but if you are adding all 3 hops gradually over 60 minutes it would be impossible to work out the IBU anyway. It will also boil down to about 20 lts, so what is the final quantity? Does the recipe specify it? Warrior are currently available. Try Google Ralph on "dogfish IPA clone recipe" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/dogfish-ipa-clone-recipe#post-29741 Mon, 30 Jan 2012 20:03:06 +0000 Ralph 29741@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ He starts with with 23L of water for a full boil, as doesn't top it up in the FV. So probably end ups being about a 5Gallon batch. Guessing you could boil 17L and make it up to 22L in the FV. sam87 on "Way to Amarillo, first ever brew day - questions!" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/way-to-amarillo-first-ever-brew-day-questions#post-29738 Mon, 30 Jan 2012 19:05:26 +0000 sam87 29738@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ I agree with saracen ive only had one or two batch that had bubble from the air lock but it sound like the yeast is doing its thing saracen on "dogfish IPA clone recipe" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/dogfish-ipa-clone-recipe#post-29734 Mon, 30 Jan 2012 18:20:15 +0000 saracen 29734@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Now that's more like it. That makes sense, but that's a lot of money's worth of hops. What quantity of beer is that for? Ralph on "dogfish IPA clone recipe" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/dogfish-ipa-clone-recipe#post-29730 Mon, 30 Jan 2012 14:57:25 +0000 Ralph 29730@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Hey Not sure if this helps, but i have a copy of extreme brewing - written by the owner of dogfish head brewery, and it has a extract recipe for the 60-min IPA. He starts with making a pre-boil tea at 66C using 75g crushed British amber malt. Allowing the the grain to steep for 15mins before removing then adding 3.2kg of light dry malt extract. Then hops as follows (15 g) Warrior hops (Add gradually over 60mins) (15 g) Simcoe hops (Add gradually over 60mins) (55 g) Amarillo hops (Add gradually over 60mins) (55 g) Amarillo hops (end of boil) Yeast: Wyeast 1187 Ringwood Ale Then dry hops: (55 g) Amarillo hops (6 to 7 days) (15 g) Simcoe hops (6 to 7 day.l) Anyway not sure about the hop substitutions but might help clear up the grain issue. saracen on "Way to Amarillo, first ever brew day - questions!" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/way-to-amarillo-first-ever-brew-day-questions#post-29722 Mon, 30 Jan 2012 13:29:27 +0000 saracen 29722@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Hi Steve. A lack of bubbles in the airlock is common, as few FVs or the associated air lock grommet are airtight. It only takes a tiny leak to stop it, but the activity in the FV comfirms it's all going the right way. saracen on "Air Space/Head space - Fermenting" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/air-spacehead-space-fermenting#post-29720 Mon, 30 Jan 2012 13:24:32 +0000 saracen 29720@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Hi Ralph You should be fine using 25lt FVs. The Co2 produced will displace the air and protect the beer during fermentation. Most think 11 gms of yeast in a starter should be adequate to ferment a 25 lt brew, so logically, half of it should do 13 lts. Using half and making a 1.0 lt starter should be more than good enough. Leave the starter for 3 days before pitching to develop as many cells as possible. I would use some of the ingredients for the recipe to make the starter as 1.0 lt in 13 lts is quite a large proportion. Ralph on "Air Space/Head space - Fermenting" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/air-spacehead-space-fermenting#post-29718 Mon, 30 Jan 2012 11:55:42 +0000 Ralph 29718@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Hi All Planning on doing a few small scale batches around the 13Liter mark, as this will allow me to make more types of beer more regularly. At the moment I have two 25liter fermenting buckets and was wondering if I would be ok fermenting batches in this size bucket or should I get something smaller? Have read something about having to much air in the bucket?? Also when pitching yeast in this size brew should i still use a full packet of yeast or should i split the yeast make a starter and save half for my next brew? Thanks Ralph Steve on "Way to Amarillo, first ever brew day - questions!" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/way-to-amarillo-first-ever-brew-day-questions#post-29716 Mon, 30 Jan 2012 11:04:50 +0000 Steve 29716@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Thanks, Sam! There seems to be something going on in the FV now so I guess the yeast is ok - without opening the FV I can see that a thick head has formed and there's a yeasty smell in the cupboard. There aren't any bubbles coming through the airlock but I suppose without a proper yeast starter it's still ramping up. Greg on "Which Extract Kits do you want first?" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/which-extract-kits-do-you-want-first#post-29707 Sun, 29 Jan 2012 23:57:56 +0000 Greg 29707@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ I'm working on all of these so they should be available mid week. Massive thanks to Saracen for converting all the recipe. beerlover1983 on "Which Extract Kits do you want first?" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/which-extract-kits-do-you-want-first#post-29688 Sun, 29 Jan 2012 19:49:32 +0000 beerlover1983 29688@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ That makes sense saracen thanks for explaining will look forward to that one <img src="http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_smile.gif" title=":)" class="bb_smilies" /> Sunter0100 on "Which Extract Kits do you want first?" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/which-extract-kits-do-you-want-first#post-29686 Sun, 29 Jan 2012 19:20:22 +0000 Sunter0100 29686@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Timothy Taylor landlord and moorhouses Pendle witches please. Two of my favourite beers. saracen on "Which Extract Kits do you want first?" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/which-extract-kits-do-you-want-first#post-29670 Sun, 29 Jan 2012 16:18:51 +0000 saracen 29670@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Hi Beerlover <blockquote>will old tom only make 11.0 lts due to strength of the beer?</blockquote> Old Tom is formulated to 11.0 lts mainly for 2 reasons: 1) At 8.5% ABV, such a specialist beer isn't going to appeal to all in a large quantity. Probably more for a beer to be put away and only brought out for special occasions. 2) The cost of ingrediemts for 23 lts is very high, so to keep the cost of the kit at a level fairly consistent with the others, the volume is reduced. As with all the kits, this one has all the ingredients weighed out so there is no over-buying and no waste. sam87 on "Which Extract Kits do you want first?" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/which-extract-kits-do-you-want-first#post-29663 Sun, 29 Jan 2012 15:18:06 +0000 sam87 29663@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Sorry hamish misread the post thought you had put this up? Thanks saracen think this has to be done at month end once my bpilers up n running beerlover1983 on "Which Extract Kits do you want first?" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/which-extract-kits-do-you-want-first#post-29662 Sun, 29 Jan 2012 15:17:22 +0000 beerlover1983 29662@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ excuse my stupidity but will old tom only make 11.lts due to strength of the beer ? Love old tom only ever had from a bottle Can i send some love for Batemans XXXB & Victory Ale. Batemans do some fantastic beers my fav is combined harvest but think its hard to do from when i asked before as the different grains involved. And thanks to saracen and greg for sorting more extract recipes out its much appreciated. saracen on "Which Extract Kits do you want first?" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/which-extract-kits-do-you-want-first#post-29658 Sun, 29 Jan 2012 14:29:01 +0000 saracen 29658@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Hi Mech. We have Extract Recipes for both of those and they will be avaiable as kits within a short while. Each recipe has full directions for boiling a small volume in a stockpot, but your AG kit is perfect for Extract. All you do is boil the full amount, using all the Extract at once. Robinson's Old Tom makes 11.0 lts and Marstons Pedigree make 20.0 lts. All Grain recipes and kits for all of them are due to follow soon. Mech on "Which Extract Kits do you want first?" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/which-extract-kits-do-you-want-first#post-29657 Sun, 29 Jan 2012 14:15:32 +0000 Mech 29657@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Hi all, I have a soft spot for Robinsons Old Tom and Marstons Pedigree. saracen on "Which Extract Kits do you want first?" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/which-extract-kits-do-you-want-first#post-29656 Sun, 29 Jan 2012 14:14:24 +0000 saracen 29656@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Hi Als Pals <blockquote>What bout a bit of old hooky?</blockquote> It's something I've been asked for, but it uses quite a lot (10%) of Flaked Maize, which is a Mash Tun Adjunct and isn't suitable for steeping. So far, my research hasn't found a substitute. Any suggestions of input from here would be great. Other than that, it's an easy Extract conversion. saracen on "Which Extract Kits do you want first?" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/which-extract-kits-do-you-want-first#post-29654 Sun, 29 Jan 2012 14:09:55 +0000 saracen 29654@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Hamish. Thanks for all the information. Hi Sam Greene King IPA isn't a published recipe, but I have got a recipe for Greene King IPA Export. Again, it's my own interpretation of it and it should be available here as an Extract Kit soon. This is the formulation I came up with. No promises. Dried Malt Extract Pale. 10 EBC. 3000 grams. 96.5% Crystal Malt. 130 EBC. 190 grams. 3.5% Yeast: Wyeast 1335 or Danstar Windsor or S-04. Challenger Whole. AA 8.2%. 75 mins. 23 grams. 53.2% of EBU First Gold Whole. AA 7.9%. 75 mins. 19 grams. 41% of EBU First Gold Whole. AA 7.9%. 5 mins. 14 grams. 5.9% of EBU First Gold Whole. AA 7.9%. 0 mins. 10 grams. 0% of EBU (Steep for 30 minutes Post-boil at 80°c) Final Volume: 21 Litres Original Gravity: 1.052 Final Gravity: 1.012 Alcohol Content: 5.2% ABV Bitterness: 40 EBU Colour: 23 EBC Hamish on "Which Extract Kits do you want first?" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/which-extract-kits-do-you-want-first#post-29652 Sun, 29 Jan 2012 13:53:57 +0000 Hamish 29652@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ No Sam I haven't, trying to replicate specific beers isn't something I do. However, google is your friend. sam87 on "Which Extract Kits do you want first?" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/which-extract-kits-do-you-want-first#post-29640 Sun, 29 Jan 2012 11:38:16 +0000 sam87 29640@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Green king ipa and landlord would be great extract kits Hamish have you got the recipe for green king you could post for me to try? Sam sam87 on "Way to Amarillo, first ever brew day - questions!" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/way-to-amarillo-first-ever-brew-day-questions#post-29637 Sun, 29 Jan 2012 11:31:15 +0000 sam87 29637@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Welcome black feather Let me start by saying i am far from an expert on this but having been brewing for a year now have had some sucessful brews under my belt In responce to your question regarding vasalene on the fermenter will not be required i only use vasalene on my keg as you need an air tight seal to carbonate the beer, but in the fermenter you just need enough of a seal to create a layer of co2 above the beer and help protect it from infection In responce about cleaning i personally sterilise everything before and after that come into contact with the wort whether its hot or cold, dunno if thats overkill but it works for me The recipe states to pitch yeast between 18-24c So you should be fine , i know this is difficult to get wort cooled down quickly for a good cold break without the use if a wort cooler I would keep an eye and ear on ya fermenter to see if the yeast comes to life Personally i start my syphoning with my mouth but i know you can get a auto syphon or can fill ur syphon with water and hold your thumb on the end while u put it into bothe fermenters and let gravity do it thing Keep us posted in how ya brew goes And hope this helps Sam Steve on "Way to Amarillo, first ever brew day - questions!" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/way-to-amarillo-first-ever-brew-day-questions#post-29634 Sun, 29 Jan 2012 10:51:15 +0000 Steve 29634@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Hi there! Last night I made my first ever brew. I went for the Way to Amarillo kit as I wanted to jump straight to extract and everyone seems to have success with it. The brew day went pretty well. As I have a 32 litre brupak boiler with a hop strainer and tap I cooled the wort with cold bottled water straight in the boiler and ran it out through the tap when cool. This was really easy and hopefully served to aerate the wort. It took quite a while to boil 6 litres of water on the stove though which doesn't fill me with confidence at the prospect of a full-volume boil! No fermentation action yet but I'll try to be patient, it's only 10 hours later! I have a few questions that came up - any help would be greatly appreciated. 1. I have an airlock on the FV, which goes through a rubber grommet in the lid. Should I have put vaseline on that for a better seal? The seal seems pretty good but I'm sure I've read something about vaseline. 2. What do people do about cleaning and sanitising the hop strainer and tap/ball valve on the boiler? Is it sufficient to run a load of hot water and detergent through it, relying on the fact that it gets hot to sterilise it next brew? Or do I have to take it apart? 3. I pitched the yeast at 24 degrees but I wonder now whether I should have waited (it was bedtime!). If I've ruined the yeast is there anything I can do about that? Chuck more in? 4. When it comes to bottling, how can I start the syphon without putting my mouth on it? Cheers! Hamish on "Which Extract Kits do you want first?" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/which-extract-kits-do-you-want-first#post-29632 Sun, 29 Jan 2012 02:20:54 +0000 Hamish 29632@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Can it be barreled? - No, it should be highly carbonated How long to condition? - As soon as its carbonated, 2 weeks and traditionally served cloudy, it should be drunk young, 5 weeks and its probably past its best. <blockquote>What bout a bit of old hooky?</blockquote> Probably not, I'm sure it has acid malt in the grist and maybe flaked maize too. Als Pals on "Which Extract Kits do you want first?" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/which-extract-kits-do-you-want-first#post-29631 Sun, 29 Jan 2012 01:41:47 +0000 Als Pals 29631@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Defo ringwood 49er and TT landlord. What bout a bit of old hooky? Can u get that in extract <img src="http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_confused.gif" title=":?" class="bb_smilies" /> craig on "Which Extract Kits do you want first?" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/which-extract-kits-do-you-want-first#post-29625 Sat, 28 Jan 2012 23:49:14 +0000 craig 29625@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Wheat beer would be fantastic. Also 49er and Landlord. Brilliant idea, thanks guys. saracen on "Which Extract Kits do you want first?" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/which-extract-kits-do-you-want-first#post-29624 Sat, 28 Jan 2012 23:00:36 +0000 saracen 29624@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Thank you for that, Hamish. I've transcribed it into the format we are using and I'll send it off. As I know nothing about Wheat Beer, could you just clear up a couple of things. Can it be barreled? How long to condition? saracen on "Which Extract Kits do you want first?" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/which-extract-kits-do-you-want-first#post-29622 Sat, 28 Jan 2012 22:29:00 +0000 saracen 29622@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ No, Beerlover. No St Austell yet. We are only using known reliable recipes, and there are no published recipes for St Austell. There are a few guesses, but if you are selling the kits, you need to be fairly sure it's going to be a close copy. beerlover1983 on "Which Extract Kits do you want first?" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/which-extract-kits-do-you-want-first#post-29616 Sat, 28 Jan 2012 21:47:21 +0000 beerlover1983 29616@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Old tom.Ringwood 49r no st austell love ? Tribute or proper job ? Hamish on "Which Extract Kits do you want first?" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/which-extract-kits-do-you-want-first#post-29614 Sat, 28 Jan 2012 21:28:55 +0000 Hamish 29614@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Bavarian Weissbier Full mash Wheat malt 2800 grams 55% Lager malt 2290 grams 45% Hallertauer Hersbrucker 3% 45 grams 75 minutes Hallertauer Hersbrucker 3% 10 grams 5 minutes Protafloc tablet 10 minutes Final Volume: 23 litres Original Gravity: 1.046 Final Gravity: 1.011 Alcohol Content: 4.6% ABV Mash Efficiency: 70% Bitterness: 15 EBU Colour: 5 EBC Mash ratio: 2.5 litres/kg Extract Wheat DME 3000 grams Hallertauer Hersbrucker 3% 45 grams 75 minutes Hallertauer Hersbrucker 3% 10 grams 5 minutes Protafloc tablet 10 minutes Final Volume: 23 litres Original Gravity: 1.046 Final Gravity: 1.011 Alcohol Content: 4.6% ABV Bitterness: 15 EBU Colour: 7 EBC Danstar Munich, Wyeast 3068 or WLP 300 3 grams per bottle priming sugar <img src="http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_smile.gif" title=":-)" class="bb_smilies" /> saracen on "Which Extract Kits do you want first?" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/which-extract-kits-do-you-want-first#post-29609 Sat, 28 Jan 2012 20:32:41 +0000 saracen 29609@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Don't see why not, Hamish. I don't have any recipes, but if you can convert something I'm sure Greg will be very grateful. The more the merrier and variety is the spice of life. I'd have a go at making it. saracen on "dogfish IPA clone recipe" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/dogfish-ipa-clone-recipe#post-29607 Sat, 28 Jan 2012 20:30:05 +0000 saracen 29607@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Well, I found it and it still doesn't make sense. They definitely differentiate between Extract and AG, and the quantities of Malt are small. What do these Americans know that we don't? Hamish on "Which Extract Kits do you want first?" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/which-extract-kits-do-you-want-first#post-29606 Sat, 28 Jan 2012 20:24:58 +0000 Hamish 29606@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Would a wheat beer kit be a good seller?. saracen on "Which Extract Kits do you want first?" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/which-extract-kits-do-you-want-first#post-29605 Sat, 28 Jan 2012 20:16:11 +0000 saracen 29605@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ <blockquote>How come there are 2 variations of Summer Lightning then?</blockquote> When I started converting the recipes I went for extract versions of the ones already published on the site. Going by the recipe for Summer Lightning, the EBU came out at 43, but GW's recipe give 38. I asked Greg whether he wanted to match the one already on offer, or go with the GW recipe, and we haven't really come to a decision, so I sent both recipes. He'll go for one or the other. Hi, Iceman. <blockquote>I cant believe you all do extract kits thought you were all ag only brewers.</blockquote> Personally, I don't do any extract, only AG, but I started with kits and progressed through extract from there. It's the perfect first step beyond a kit, and there has always been an objection, namely cost. For example, to brew London Pride would cost £45.14 in ingredients because you need to buy 4 packs of hops. As a kit, with everything weighed out for you and all the instructions, it comes to £23.50, with nothing left over and no waste. All I've had to do is update and convert Graham Wheeler's published recipes. It should be remembered that you will never make an exact copy. Water will be different, brewing salts will be added, Dried Malt Extract is the same all over and breweries often use their own specification Malt, the yeast will be different and there are many other small variables, but you will brew the same style and as close as it's possible to get with extract to the original brew. midgeyboy on "dogfish IPA clone recipe" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/dogfish-ipa-clone-recipe#post-29604 Sat, 28 Jan 2012 20:11:59 +0000 midgeyboy 29604@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ hey sorry I took so long to get back. The recipe was on youcanbrewit. Dogfish 60 min IPA. iceman on "Which Extract Kits do you want first?" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/which-extract-kits-do-you-want-first#post-29601 Sat, 28 Jan 2012 19:59:47 +0000 iceman 29601@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Starting old peculiar myself next week its my first extract for years. Just back into home brew and loving it <img src="http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_biggrin.gif" title=":D" class="bb_smilies" /> Goliath on "Which Extract Kits do you want first?" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/which-extract-kits-do-you-want-first#post-29600 Sat, 28 Jan 2012 19:55:45 +0000 Goliath 29600@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Theakstons Old Peculiar also <img src="http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_wink.gif" title=";)" class="bb_smilies" /> iceman - There are all types of brewers here. Personally, I'm piecing together my AG set up at the moment and looking forward to it! I'm still going to do some extract kits, still makes good beer and I've been wanting to try some of these recipes out for ages! iceman on "Which Extract Kits do you want first?" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/which-extract-kits-do-you-want-first#post-29599 Sat, 28 Jan 2012 19:53:06 +0000 iceman 29599@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ I cant believe you all do extract kits thought you were all ag only brewers. Goliath on "Which Extract Kits do you want first?" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/which-extract-kits-do-you-want-first#post-29595 Sat, 28 Jan 2012 18:21:07 +0000 Goliath 29595@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Wow! I'd love to try: Black Sheep Best Bitter, Exmoor Gold, Ringwood 49er and the Brakspear for starters! Nath on "Which Extract Kits do you want first?" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/which-extract-kits-do-you-want-first#post-29588 Sat, 28 Jan 2012 17:09:50 +0000 Nath 29588@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Exmoor gold and Ringwood 49er. Ringwood 49 is one of my fave wheeler recipes. How come there are 2 variations of Summer Lightning then? seamus48 on "Which Extract Kits do you want first?" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/which-extract-kits-do-you-want-first#post-29587 Sat, 28 Jan 2012 16:33:51 +0000 seamus48 29587@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ In no particular order: Timothy Taylor,Sarah Hughes Ruby, Exmoor Gold, Exe Valley Autumn Glory, Brakspears Special saracen on "Which Extract Kits do you want first?" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/which-extract-kits-do-you-want-first#post-29586 Sat, 28 Jan 2012 16:26:10 +0000 saracen 29586@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Because there are so many Extract Recipes waiting to to be offered for sale, it would help Greg a lot to know which ones you'd like first. So far there is: Bass Mild Belhaven 60/- Hop Back Mild Sarah Hughes Dark Ruby Archers Village Arkells 3B & Kingsdown Draught Bass Banks Bitter & Original Batemans XXXB & Victory Ale Bathams Best Bitter Belhaven 90/- Black Sheep Best Bitter Boddingtons Bitter Brakspears Bitter & Special Camerons Strongarm Cotleigh Barn Owl & Tawney Courage Best Bitter & Directors Donnington SBA Exe Valley Autumn Glory, Dob's Best Bitter & Spring Beer Exmoor Ale, Beast & Gold Fullers London Pride & EXB Greene King IPA Export Hop Back Old Master J W Lees Moonraker Marstons Pedigree Moorehouses Pendle Witches Morland Old Speckled Hen Ringwood 49er Summer Lightning 38 EBU & 43 EBU Theakstons Old Peculiar Timothy Taylor Landlord Robinsons Old Tom Wadworth 6X, JCB & Old Father Timer Worthington White Shield Batemans Salem Porter Ringwood XXXX Porter There will be AG recipes to follow soon and some more extracts. saracen on "dogfish IPA clone recipe" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/dogfish-ipa-clone-recipe#post-29563 Sat, 28 Jan 2012 14:02:55 +0000 saracen 29563@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ I've seen this 2 row malt referred to a lot in US info, but I've never looked into it. I looked it up last night and I understand it now. Didn't even realise there was 2 row and 6 row. One of the drawbacks of being a lorry driver rather than a farmer. I'll be having a good look when I take the dog round the fields this summer. 6 row, presumably, is used as feed barley? What was confusing me was the apparent mix of AG and Extract. Can't see the point of always quoting 2 row, but then the Yanks can be rather pedantic. I think the crap recipe is the answer. Hopefully Midgeyboy will look in and we can clear this up. It would be nice to know what's going on with this. Hamish on "dogfish IPA clone recipe" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/dogfish-ipa-clone-recipe#post-29553 Sat, 28 Jan 2012 12:22:25 +0000 Hamish 29553@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Could just be a crap recipe. You could replace the Warrior with Columbus but as its the bittering hop I don't think it matters too much what its replaced with. <a href="http://www.brew365.com/hop_substitution_chart.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.brew365.com/hop_substitution_chart.php</a> <blockquote>As far as I know, this 2 row Malt is simply a Malted grain and Maris Otter is a 2 row Malt.</blockquote> 2 row, as opposed to 6 row?. Malt from 6 row barley would probably only be good enough for vinegar but then the yanks do use a lot of adjuncts in the grist. No-one uses 6 row do they?, because its high in protein you'll get cloudy beer. saracen on "dogfish IPA clone recipe" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/dogfish-ipa-clone-recipe#post-29540 Fri, 27 Jan 2012 22:09:10 +0000 saracen 29540@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ It could be something I've seen referred to as a mini-mash. Whatever you call it, 30 minutes won't do it. simonb_13 on "dogfish IPA clone recipe" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/dogfish-ipa-clone-recipe#post-29534 Fri, 27 Jan 2012 20:07:34 +0000 simonb_13 29534@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Looks like a Partial Mash to me. The steeping bit is a mash but 30 mins sounds too short. 60 would be better. saracen on "dogfish IPA clone recipe" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/dogfish-ipa-clone-recipe#post-29523 Fri, 27 Jan 2012 18:21:04 +0000 saracen 29523@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ I am rather confused by this. As far as I know, this 2 row Malt is simply a Malted grain and Maris Otter is a 2 row Malt. You can't steep Malted Barley, it has to be mashed. This also includes Amber Malt, which is a secondary malt although we are told it can be steeped. Where did you find the recipe? The phrase, 'Steep at 152°F (66°c) for 30 minutes', suggests an extract brew, but steeping these grains will achieve nothing. Moreover, the 60 minute boil for the hops is barely enough. We alwys use 75 or 90 minutes to be sure of isommerisation. Is this sweet beer? I've never tried it, but Wyeast 1187 Ringwood leaves quite a lot of residual sweetness as it's attenuation is only 70%. Let me have the recipe source and I'll take a look. Could be another example of American confusing info. Steve_K on "dogfish IPA clone recipe" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/dogfish-ipa-clone-recipe#post-29520 Fri, 27 Jan 2012 15:35:02 +0000 Steve_K 29520@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ I can send you the warrior if you want? Got about half a kilo! fuggles_muddle on "Stout Extract Recipe" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/stout-extract-recipe#post-29516 Fri, 27 Jan 2012 14:33:42 +0000 fuggles_muddle 29516@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ This sounds excellent. I am going to attempt this in time for the autumn oyster season <img src="http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_biggrin.gif" title=":D" class="bb_smilies" /> Speaking of which how would this compare to say, Marston's Oyster Stout? I am primarily brewing this as a match for these lovely little bi-valve molluscs midgeyboy on "dogfish IPA clone recipe" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/dogfish-ipa-clone-recipe#post-29507 Fri, 27 Jan 2012 00:25:09 +0000 midgeyboy 29507@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Dog Fish Head 60 Minute IPA Extract Recipe Clone (5 Gallon/19L) Extract: 1/2lb 2 Row 1/4lb Amber Malt Steep at 152°F for 30 minutes Boil 6.6lbs of Briess Golden Light Liquid Extract 1lbs of Briess Golden Light Dry Extract 3/4oz Warrior 60 Minute 1/4oz Simcoe last 30 minutes 3/4oz Palisade last 20 minutes 3/4oz Palisade last 0 minutes 1/2oz Amarillo dry hop 1oz Simcoe dry hop Wyeast 1187 I was in the States recently and absolutely loved Dogfish Head 60minute IPA I found this clone online. I was wondering if anyone could help me out with alternatives for the and warrior hops as I can't seem to find these in the uk. I can find Palisade. Also what would suitable malt extracts to use instead of these American ones and why do you need to step some extract at the start? Nath on "Dry hopping Way to Amarillo" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/dry-hopping-way-to-amarillo#post-29464 Thu, 26 Jan 2012 18:53:02 +0000 Nath 29464@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ It wont be a problem mate. You will have to dodge the hops when you syphon off, so you may get some in the keg but it wont matter too much. Its said to be best to add the hops (if in primary) after fermentation has slowed right down so the escaping co2 doesnt drive off the hoppy smell, but im sure you will still get a reallty nice kick from the cascade. But yep, next time go for a muslin bag (properly disinfected of course)! craig on "Dry hopping Way to Amarillo" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/dry-hopping-way-to-amarillo#post-29428 Thu, 26 Jan 2012 10:54:17 +0000 craig 29428@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Hi again My lovely smelling Cascade hops had arrived when I got home last night, so I had a bash at dry hopping the Amarillo. The only thing is, and I hadn't properly anticipated this, that there was a thick layer or krausen on top of the beer. If I had had a muslin bag I could probably have just made a little hole at the side and popped the bag directly into the beer, but as I haven't got any yet, and didn't want to disturb the krausen, and had weighed out the hops, I ended up just just bunging the 25g of hops on top of the krausen, thinking that when it recedes the hops will start to infuse the beer. I am almost certain this is not the right thing to do - should I have waited for the krausen to recede? From memory this only happened after about 10 days in the FV last time I made WTA (and this brew is at Day 5) so, other than use the muslin bag (which I will try next time) what do you think I should have done? I suppose the worst that will happen is I end up with plain old WTA, which is no bad thing at all. Cheers Craig Nath on "Way To Cassarillo! Recipe Advice" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/way-to-cassarillo-recipe-advice#post-28963 Mon, 23 Jan 2012 20:30:16 +0000 Nath 28963@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ <blockquote>Bottles now safely in both FVs and a cardboard box wrapped in a bin liner!</blockquote> I did excatly the same with my Coopers Lager.... Ahhhh memories! fuggles_muddle on "Way To Cassarillo! Recipe Advice" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/way-to-cassarillo-recipe-advice#post-28953 Mon, 23 Jan 2012 19:36:20 +0000 fuggles_muddle 28953@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Bottles now safely in both FVs and a cardboard box wrapped in a bin liner! The more I think about how I bottled the sillier it seems. I am going to experiment with priming the bottles directly next time. I will experiment with leveled spoons of certain sizes to get 3g per spoon and the perfect fizz. Learning all the time, this is good. Want to start with the AG experience but I have zero room in the house and so far the extract results are looking good, pending explosions. First taste will be in 1/2 weeks depending on how well I cant resist. Tasting notes to follow fuggles_muddle on "Way To Cassarillo! Recipe Advice" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/way-to-cassarillo-recipe-advice#post-28906 Mon, 23 Jan 2012 16:58:45 +0000 fuggles_muddle 28906@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Uh-oh Hopefully the hallway wont be swimming in beer and glass when I get home saracen on "Way To Cassarillo! Recipe Advice" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/way-to-cassarillo-recipe-advice#post-28902 Mon, 23 Jan 2012 16:49:09 +0000 saracen 28902@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ You need to remember the Specific Gravity of a concentrated sugar solution is many times that of the beer, so they are very difficult to mix. By making up a 2.0 lt sugar solution, you dilute it a lot and it mixes far easier. Make sure your bottles are somewhere no damage can occur just in case. When sugar is packed, it's sterile. Food production is very tightly regulated. Provided you are careful not to contaminate it, there shouldn't be a problem. fuggles_muddle on "Way To Cassarillo! Recipe Advice" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/way-to-cassarillo-recipe-advice#post-28901 Mon, 23 Jan 2012 16:43:49 +0000 fuggles_muddle 28901@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Good advice there, if I had know before hand that would have been v. useful. However, judging by what you said it should be ok, just some difference in carbonation levels but I dont need to worry about explosions do I? I did stir it in pretty well I thought. With putting the sugar directly into the bottles dont you worry about contamination from the sugar? saracen on "Way To Cassarillo! Recipe Advice" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/way-to-cassarillo-recipe-advice#post-28866 Mon, 23 Jan 2012 15:56:45 +0000 saracen 28866@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Yes, Mark. I think most do it that way now. It's easy to get the right amount of sugar, easy to fill the bottles and you can bottle some and leave the rest in the barrel if you want. Mark on "Way To Cassarillo! Recipe Advice" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/way-to-cassarillo-recipe-advice#post-28863 Mon, 23 Jan 2012 15:51:51 +0000 Mark 28863@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ That is a good tip there Saracen but yes it obviously is not distributed evenly as he said he stirred it carefully not to disturb the trub. This is why i put the sugar into each bottle separately so carbonation is the same for all of them. Not ideal you may think but it really does not take that long. If i was barreling the same as you then what you have said seems a good way of doing it. saracen on "Way To Cassarillo! Recipe Advice" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/way-to-cassarillo-recipe-advice#post-28861 Mon, 23 Jan 2012 15:44:55 +0000 saracen 28861@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Sounds good. You might find the sugar solution wasn't very evenly distributed, so some may produce more gas than others. It's a problem when you can't stir it in well. The best way of doing it is this; Leave the beer in the FV for 2 weeks, not 1 week. By that time fermentation will be complete and the beer will be almost clear. Put your sugar into a saucpan, up to 125 gms for bottling 40 pints, about 3 gms per pint, and add half a pint of water. Boil it up for 5 minutes. Put the solution into a 2.0 lt jug, cool it to the same temperature as the beer and syphon some beer into the jug until it's full. Pour it into your barrel. Syphon the rest of the beer into the barrel, cap it, roll it round the floor for a minute or so and immediately put the beer into bottles. This way, it's all evenly distributed, there's less handling so less chance of contamination, no stirring so a minimal risk of introducing oxygen and you will get far less sediment in the bottles. Store it at about 20°c for 2 weeks, then 2 weeks at a lower temperature. fuggles_muddle on "Way To Cassarillo! Recipe Advice" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/way-to-cassarillo-recipe-advice#post-28853 Mon, 23 Jan 2012 15:07:17 +0000 fuggles_muddle 28853@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Sound advice, mine are in cardboard boxes so glass wont be an issue but leakage will. I might put the boxes inside a bin liner. I shouldn't have anything to worry about though should I? Technotrucker on "Way To Cassarillo! Recipe Advice" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/way-to-cassarillo-recipe-advice#post-28852 Mon, 23 Jan 2012 15:04:55 +0000 Technotrucker 28852@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ When I bottle I always put my full bottles in a large bucket or spare FV. If one go's off 1, glass stays in the bucket..2, beer also stays in the bucket which saves me a rocket of the memsahib. fuggles_muddle on "Way To Cassarillo! Recipe Advice" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/way-to-cassarillo-recipe-advice#post-28848 Mon, 23 Jan 2012 14:35:05 +0000 fuggles_muddle 28848@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ So bottle day was Saturday. After the first week in the FV I siphoned off into the bottling barrel to condition for another week and to ensure fermentation had finished. It cleared down quite nicely with about 50mm trub at the bottom. Boiled up 85g of granulated sugar with a pint of water and added to the beer in the bottling barrel. Stirred carefully but thoroughly, trying not to disturb the trub. Got the little bottler ready and happily filled 40 500ml bottles. Had a sneaky taste, lovely fruity aromas nice long bitter finish. Still a bit spikey so hopefully some time in the bottle will mellow it. Excellent balance of biscuity sweetness and strong bitterness. Pretty much exactly the style of IPA I was going for. So bottles are in a warm (19c) place to start the bottle fermentation, I will leave them there for a week then move under the stairs (10c) to clear down and mature. I will probably try the first one in a week or so. One thing that bothers me slightly is that one or two of the bottles are showing signs of a much more active bottle fermentation than the other i.e. there is a ring of bubbles around the top. As this is only my second brew I am still worried about bottles breaking but I should be ok as the fermentation finished after a week and I left it for another to condition. Also 85g sugar seems an ideal amount for 20L. If there is anything to be alarmed about here let me know kilconlea on "Fuller's London Porter Extract brew" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/fullers-london-porter-extract-brew#post-28626 Sun, 22 Jan 2012 20:41:56 +0000 kilconlea 28626@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Thanks Saracen, glad I asked now. saracen on "Fuller's London Porter Extract brew" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/fullers-london-porter-extract-brew#post-28625 Sun, 22 Jan 2012 20:34:27 +0000 saracen 28625@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Stir the whole lot up into a nice, thick, cloudy soup. Try not to aereate in case of oxidisation. Get the yeast back into the brew. You might have to wait another 10 days for it to clear enough to proceeed, but it won't do any harm. kilconlea on "Fuller's London Porter Extract brew" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/fullers-london-porter-extract-brew#post-28613 Sun, 22 Jan 2012 18:55:46 +0000 kilconlea 28613@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Should I avoid disturbing the bottom layer of crud, or mix it up? And should I aeriate? Sorry, not roused before. saracen on "Fuller's London Porter Extract brew" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/fullers-london-porter-extract-brew#post-28590 Sun, 22 Jan 2012 13:16:05 +0000 saracen 28590@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ With those ingredients your OG should have been 1.057, in which case 1.014 would be the absolute maximum you can expect from 1335. The temperature really needs to be up at 22°c now for the fermentation to go as far as it can and the yeast to complete it's work. 1.014 needs an attenuation of 75.4% and 1335 gives 73 - 76% in ideal conditions. I'd rouse it and leave it for another 7 days. 1335 is hghly floculative, and with a high OG beer, as the ferment progresses and a smaller amount of yeast is needed, the yeast can drop out of solution leaving only a small amount in suspension and slowing the ferment. I'd also be happy with 1.016. kilconlea on "Fuller's London Porter Extract brew" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/fullers-london-porter-extract-brew#post-28587 Sun, 22 Jan 2012 12:54:53 +0000 kilconlea 28587@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ This is what I went with in the end; Pale DME 3000g Brown Malt 650 Steeped 30 mins Choc Malt 110 Steeped 30 mins Crystal 550 Steeped 30 mins Fuggles AA4.9 65g 90 mins Fuggles AA4.9 35g 10 mins Wyeast London 1335 Got OG of 1053 Expecting to get down to 1014 ish but it seems to be fermenting very slowly, three days ago it was 1021.5, today 1020 and it's been in the FV a fortnight. The yeast head is still a half inch thick. Temp is between 18 and 22. Tastes quite nice already. Question is, should I leave it another week or rouse it with a stir? Just a bit nervous after my last two Wyeast disasters. BTW used up the whole pack of hops (Nath told me I would be doing this eventually). saracen on "Choice of yeast" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/choice-of-yeast#post-28559 Sun, 22 Jan 2012 01:40:34 +0000 saracen 28559@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ As a member of the People's Front of ............. <img src="http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_lol.gif" title=":lol:" class="bb_smilies" /> kilconlea on "Choice of yeast" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/choice-of-yeast#post-28558 Sun, 22 Jan 2012 01:27:19 +0000 kilconlea 28558@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Careful, we may need to remove another thread. saracen on "Choice of yeast" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/choice-of-yeast#post-28557 Sun, 22 Jan 2012 01:24:46 +0000 saracen 28557@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ And the Judean Popular Front,.... or is it the Popular Front of Judea. kilconlea on "Choice of yeast" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/choice-of-yeast#post-28556 Sun, 22 Jan 2012 01:22:33 +0000 kilconlea 28556@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ So that rules out the christians. saracen on "Choice of yeast" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/choice-of-yeast#post-28555 Sun, 22 Jan 2012 01:20:48 +0000 saracen 28555@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ True, Polish Lager is odd. My Dad was in Palestine for 2 years after WW2 before he was de-mobbed........ trying to stop the Arabs from stealing everything that wasn't nailed down! kilconlea on "Choice of yeast" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/choice-of-yeast#post-28554 Sun, 22 Jan 2012 01:18:23 +0000 kilconlea 28554@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Call me a complete Palestine if you wish but I am quite partial to the odd polish lager. There.... I've said it now. saracen on "Choice of yeast" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/choice-of-yeast#post-28551 Sun, 22 Jan 2012 01:08:15 +0000 saracen 28551@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Yes. Polish farmers. Mark on "Choice of yeast" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/choice-of-yeast#post-28548 Sun, 22 Jan 2012 01:00:50 +0000 Mark 28548@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Why do they all speak like farmers where you live then Saracen ? <img src="http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_biggrin.gif" title=":D" class="bb_smilies" /> saracen on "Choice of yeast" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/choice-of-yeast#post-28546 Sun, 22 Jan 2012 00:53:34 +0000 saracen 28546@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Techno, do you realise you may have set a Tesco record. Usually takes 40 minutes to find someone who speaks English! saracen on "Dry hopping Way to Amarillo" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/dry-hopping-way-to-amarillo#post-28543 Sun, 22 Jan 2012 00:42:18 +0000 saracen 28543@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Hi Outlaw. It's going to depend on the type of beer you brewed and when the hops were put in. Any hops you add in the last ten minutes are intended to give flavour and, to a small extent, arroma. In order to reinforce the character of theses hops, use them to dry hop, which will give the aroma. So, whatever went in at 10 minutes from the end of the boil, and I suspect it was Galaxy or Citra or both, use 10 - 20 gms for dry hopping. If it's Citra, use 25 gms ..... unless, of course, you're making something way off the wall. outlaw on "Dry hopping Way to Amarillo" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/dry-hopping-way-to-amarillo#post-28532 Sat, 21 Jan 2012 23:13:44 +0000 outlaw 28532@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ hi all i have just finished(fermenting1week) an ipa with summit , citra(pellet) , simcoe and galaxy hops and also want to dry hop , so which out of them hops would i be better dry hopping with and how much sould i use thanks Technotrucker on "Choice of yeast" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/choice-of-yeast#post-28531 Sat, 21 Jan 2012 23:13:40 +0000 Technotrucker 28531@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ I was there last Thurs....in & out in 40 mins...tiss tight tho. saracen on "Dry hopping Way to Amarillo" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/dry-hopping-way-to-amarillo#post-28526 Sat, 21 Jan 2012 22:22:36 +0000 saracen 28526@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Hi Craig. If you use Cascade you will need 25 gms. Best to put them in a boiled (to sterilise) muslin bag and drop it into the fermenter 3 or 4 days into the fermentation. Leave it there 10 days, remove it and bottle/barrel. If you were to use Nelson Sauvin, 15 gms would be plenty. Aroma, which what dry hopping gives, depends on essential oils. If you look here: <a href="http://www.brewersconnection.com/popup/Hop%20profile/cascade.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.brewersconnection.com/popup/Hop%20profile/cascade.htm</a> you'll see the complete make up of the hops. Look for Myrcene' and 'Humulene' and then compare the figures to the same figures here: <a href="http://www.nzhops.co.nz/varieties/nelson_sauvin.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.nzhops.co.nz/varieties/nelson_sauvin.html</a>. You can see from this how much greater the contribution is from Nelson Sauvin than Cascade, hence the different amunts required. craig on "Dry hopping Way to Amarillo" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/dry-hopping-way-to-amarillo#post-28523 Sat, 21 Jan 2012 21:36:13 +0000 craig 28523@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Cheers Saracen - just ordered come Cascade for a bit of variety - thanks for the link, very useful. Craig saracen on "Choice of yeast" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/choice-of-yeast#post-28522 Sat, 21 Jan 2012 21:30:39 +0000 saracen 28522@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Bit like trying to back a box into a Tesco's bay at Brooklands. <img src="http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_evil.gif" title=":evil:" class="bb_smilies" /> saracen on "Dry hopping Way to Amarillo" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/dry-hopping-way-to-amarillo#post-28512 Sat, 21 Jan 2012 20:58:36 +0000 saracen 28512@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ No, Goldings isn't really the way to go here. The obvious one is Amarillo. Have a look here: <a href="http://byo.com/resources/hops" rel="nofollow">http://byo.com/resources/hops</a> There is a drop down at the top in which you can select the style of beer. In this case it's already set to "American Amber & Pale Ale". The substitutes suggested are Cascade and Centennial, but if you look further down you could use any aroma hop that takes your fancy. Nelson Sauvin, Pacific Jade, Riwaka, Sorachi Ace. Use 15 to 25 gms. craig on "Dry hopping Way to Amarillo" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/dry-hopping-way-to-amarillo#post-28492 Sat, 21 Jan 2012 14:20:50 +0000 craig 28492@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Hi all Just wanted a bit of advice: I have just finished doing an extract brew this morning - got my 2nd lot of WTA in the FV and wanted to try dry hopping in a week's time, just to see what the effect is. Can anyone recommend suitable hops to try this with, and how much I should use? I only have East Kent Goldings at home but wasn't convinced this would go so well as it's a bit fruity and more traditionally English Ale tasting - is that right? Cheers Craig Technotrucker on "Choice of yeast" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/choice-of-yeast#post-28482 Sat, 21 Jan 2012 08:35:18 +0000 Technotrucker 28482@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ It's all a BIG learning curve OB, you never stop with homebrewing...you make a cockup, you get straight back at it. <img src="http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_wink.gif" title=":wink:" class="bb_smilies" /> Mark on "Help with extract version of fullers pride" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/is-it-possible-to-make-a-extract-of#post-28431 Thu, 19 Jan 2012 23:55:08 +0000 Mark 28431@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Well from my last post i have just tasted mt chocolate and nut brown ale and for the 2 week stage it is very nice, lovely dark beer and with a chocolate flavouring thats not over powering and with a nice sweet taste thanks to the wlp002 yeast. This is so much better than what i was expecting for a 2 week old beer, probably has something to do with the kilo of muntons dark spraymalt instead of sugar and quite alot of melted dairy milk chocolate chucked in fermenter as an experiment with the kit. Well chuffed with it <img src="http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_razz.gif" title=":P" class="bb_smilies" /> Mark on "Help with extract version of fullers pride" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/is-it-possible-to-make-a-extract-of#post-28420 Thu, 19 Jan 2012 22:17:38 +0000 Mark 28420@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ I 2nd what Greg said as when i was looking for a liquid yeast i favoured this over the 1968 after reading what i had read about it on the white labs website. Must say the beer is looking very bright in my chocolate nut ale after 2 weeks in the bottles. That reminds me i will have my first taste of one after i have finished this lager <img src="http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_razz.gif" title=":P" class="bb_smilies" /> Greg on "Help with extract version of fullers pride" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/is-it-possible-to-make-a-extract-of#post-28400 Thu, 19 Jan 2012 20:23:38 +0000 Greg 28400@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ WlP002 is a great yeast. Never seen anything clear as well/fast. If you have not tried it do, you're be impressed. saracen on "Help with extract version of fullers pride" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/is-it-possible-to-make-a-extract-of#post-28380 Thu, 19 Jan 2012 18:51:05 +0000 saracen 28380@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ As I understand it, White Labs WLP 002 is the same yeast as 1968. Greg on "Help with extract version of fullers pride" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/is-it-possible-to-make-a-extract-of#post-28357 Thu, 19 Jan 2012 15:17:51 +0000 Greg 28357@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Sorry out of stock at the moment. beerlover1983 on "Help with extract version of fullers pride" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/is-it-possible-to-make-a-extract-of#post-28351 Thu, 19 Jan 2012 13:59:33 +0000 beerlover1983 28351@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Why is the option to select wyeast 1968 gone when ordering the fullers extract kit ?? oldbrewer on "Choice of yeast" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/choice-of-yeast#post-28347 Thu, 19 Jan 2012 13:23:51 +0000 oldbrewer 28347@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Many thanks folks - a pub crawl sounds good technotrucker. My taste buds are tingling just thinking about the ales listed. At the moment I use extract brewing, but eventually I will move to all grain. Not realy into kits, I like to experiment and the challenge of getting it right, not that you can't make misstakes with a kit. I will put an order in for some malt, hops and yeast (not forgetting a few bottles) and brew a few gallons. The 5 gallons of London Pride is conditioning nicely and the old Peculier bottled a week ago looks good. It tasted ok yesterday with a trial opening. Pete on "using hops for extract brews - a novel approach?" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/using-hops-for-extract-brews-a-novel-approach#post-28343 Thu, 19 Jan 2012 12:38:24 +0000 Pete 28343@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ As noted on another thread. I have been experiemnting with making single variety hop teas, filtering into ice cube racks and then freezing. I now have bags of challenger icecubes, fuggles and so on. Hoping the extract brew is now soooo easy. Toss in the ice cubes in the amounts and varieties required. And I am convinced not boiling the malt extract solution is the way to go. I accept there may be theoretical differences but I can't taste them! And after 4 pints I don't actually care.... Hic! If if one thinks that is bad. One of my friends who brews in "the former soviet union" asked me why I didn't reuse the hops for a few boils. I said, "what?". He worked as an "old school chemist" and apparently did some GLC tests on the amount if alpha acids and olefactants in hops after being used. As we all know only about 20% or so is released during the boil. More or less. So he wondered what happened to the other 80%. Well a lot of it stays in the hop plant material and can be further extracted by more boiling. So I tried it and it appears to be true. The second boil does yield more "hop tea". Maybe not quite so hoppy but none the less something I must consider the implications of. The prospect of saving on the cost of the hops is attractive. Pete on "first extract I have a choice of two pans" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/first-extract-i-have-a-choice-of-two-pans#post-28337 Thu, 19 Jan 2012 11:52:14 +0000 Pete 28337@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ (with apologies for being slightly off topic... I still recommend the bigger pan. You can't overfill a small one but you can always under fill a big one. However....) Yes - its all I do and if anyone thinks the beer is worse than that produced by boiling the wort and hops then I invite them to come and taste for themselves! Oh, hang on a minute what have I said..... <img src="http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_rolleyes.gif" title=":roll:" class="bb_smilies" /> But seriously, I have been debating the rationale for boiling the extract at all. It seems to be a common practice to boil the extract, diluted to a reasonable extent with water, and any hops if one is adding hops. However I see no real reason to do that. I accept there may be subtle differences in flavour for some with sensitive palettes but not to my taste nor anyone who has tasted my brews made in this manner. Make up the malt extract with boiling water from a kettle directly in the fermentation vessel. Malt and boiling water will pasteurise most common bacteria and fungi so that is all that is needed to prevent a bad fermentation. The boiling water (eg 4ltr) obviously helps dissolve the malt extract. If fresh hops are being added then my method says just boil the hops in a normal (eg 5ltre) saucepan as if one is making "hop tea". 60 - 75 minutes boil for the bittering hops, and then aroma hops added a few minutes before flame out or indeed after flame out, depending on the flavour required. Then add the hop tea to the malt extract and hot water in the FV - using a strainer to filter the hops out. Top up with cold water to the required volume and temp. This also aerates the mix to give the yeast some oxygen (driven out by boiling the waters). When at teh right temp - pitch the yeast and sit back. Some poeple wait for (say) 1 week before racking and bottling. After advice given here and elsewhere I now leave the beer in the FV for at least two weeks. And it has been as long as a month for "Belgian beers". I rack off the brew into a second vessel to which I have added the pre-disolved priming sugar (en masse) so no need to prime each bottle. Then I bottle it. After a minimun of 2 weeks and pref a month the beer is good to go. I have shied away from boiling large amounts on malt extract dissolved in water because it wastes energy (and so increases the cost of the beer) and it is am obvious hazard. They don't call boiling suger/water solutions "Napalm" for nothing. I have tried comparing boiled and unboiled methods on a the same wort mix (divide it in half - make "normally" and "without boiling"). After two such experiments using pale malt extract and Amber malt extract I can to the conclusion neither I nor my friends could tell the difference - either in a blind test or when I told them which was which. Most brewers and brewsters in our brighton brew group now use this method. I make no claims for this to be the same for "all grain" brews - but I have a sneaking suspicion that it may be so (puts on hard hat and dives for cover....) The latest development in this technique is the make larger than required batches of hop tea. I now make a number of single variety hop teas. You know the usual suspects - challenger, target, fuggles, goldings. And then I filter and make ice cubes from the tea and store them in the freezer. Now putting hops in my all extract brews is as simple as counting some cubes and tossing them into the malt extract/boiling water mix. I have debated this is another thread as I was exploring the use of malt extract and hops - "using hops for extract brews - a novel approach?" Nath on "Choice of yeast" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/choice-of-yeast#post-28250 Wed, 18 Jan 2012 21:28:51 +0000 Nath 28250@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ The Sarah Hughes Mild is supposed to be a cracking pint, if left for a few months. Have a search for it on the net and I bet you find nothing but good reviews! saracen on "Choice of yeast" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/choice-of-yeast#post-28234 Wed, 18 Jan 2012 19:31:43 +0000 saracen 28234@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Hi Oldbrewer. I think you brew All Grain, but I'm not sure. The Wyeast link that Techno gave is great. I use it all the time. I'm in the process of listing some recipes for Greg to market as AG and Extract Recipe packs. Bass Mild, Belhaven 60/-, Hop Back Mild and Sarah Hughes Dark Ruby are all on the list. The advantage of the recipe packs is that they will come with the right amount of hops, so no left-overs. They are all GW recipes so highly reliable. Technotrucker on "Choice of yeast" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/choice-of-yeast#post-28225 Wed, 18 Jan 2012 16:55:00 +0000 Technotrucker 28225@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Jim... It's times like this you feel a pub crawl coming on.... :lol Jim on "Choice of yeast" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/choice-of-yeast#post-28224 Wed, 18 Jan 2012 16:06:14 +0000 Jim 28224@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Brilliant article technotrucker! I grew up in the black country and can heartily recommend Bathams, Holdens, Sarah Hughes' and Old Swan.. they make some cracking ales! I noticed the author missed the Enville brewery from the list.. their Enville Ale is a light ale brewed with honey and is another fantastic pint that has a strong following back home! <a href="http://www.envilleales.com/">website</a> Technotrucker on "Choice of yeast" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/choice-of-yeast#post-28220 Wed, 18 Jan 2012 14:44:31 +0000 Technotrucker 28220@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ OldBrewer hi.. Read this about M&B about halfway down the page...<a href="http://www.tastingbeers.com/school/regional_focus/12007278.html">HERE</a> Try this site for the yeast...<a href="http://www.wyeastlab.com/hb_styleguidelines.cfm#sg2">HERE</a> All the best sunshine. oldbrewer on "Choice of yeast" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/choice-of-yeast#post-28215 Wed, 18 Jan 2012 13:19:35 +0000 oldbrewer 28215@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ When I first started to drink beer I drank M&B dark mild, a lovely dark mild. I am thinking of brewing a dark mild, hopefully to replicate what a good mild should be like. Can anyone suggest what yeast to use for this brew? Hamish on "Bavarian Dunkel malt" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/bavarian-dunkel-malt#post-27982 Mon, 16 Jan 2012 17:05:43 +0000 Hamish 27982@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Well I've had a peep but it looks like you already know what to do with it. Not really a fan of Dunkels. The right yeast and any noble hop I reckon don't you? and a big starter if you going to ferment at lager temps. Technotrucker on "Bavarian Dunkel malt" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/bavarian-dunkel-malt#post-27949 Mon, 16 Jan 2012 10:41:58 +0000 Technotrucker 27949@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ cheers Mark... I have a good idea what I'm going to do...It's just if anyone has had a play with this malt they may give me a head start. I'll have to look at what hops I've got. I have a German yeast in the fridge that I want to start on Friday ready for Sat or Sun. Lets hope Hamish has a peep at this thread then. Mark on "Bavarian Dunkel malt" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/bavarian-dunkel-malt#post-27785 Sun, 15 Jan 2012 23:13:09 +0000 Mark 27785@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ If anyone has used it or knows about it then i would imagine Hamish could give an opinion of this.