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Brew UK Forum » Forum: Brewdays - Recent Posts http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Brew UK Forum » Forum: Brewdays - Recent Posts en Sun, 05 Feb 2012 00:31:55 +0000 seamus48 on "First Crack at Tim Taylors's Landlord Extract Kit" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/first-crack-at-tim-taylorss-landlord-extract-kit#post-30290 Sat, 04 Feb 2012 22:00:44 +0000 seamus48 30290@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Mate, no worries. Try extract, you will not be disappointed. The modern can kits are really good but Gregs extract kits are the dog's proverbials. The TWA for instance is a real head-turner. Everyone who has been lucky enough to blag one off me has LOVED it! I'm looking forward to cracking through the new recipe selections that have been worked out with the help of Saracen et al on here <img src="http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_mrgreen.gif" title=":mrgreen:" class="bb_smilies" /> Mark on "First Crack at Tim Taylors's Landlord Extract Kit" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/first-crack-at-tim-taylorss-landlord-extract-kit#post-30288 Sat, 04 Feb 2012 21:54:36 +0000 Mark 30288@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ THANKS SEAMUS <img src="http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_cool.gif" title="8)" class="bb_smilies" /> seamus48 on "First Crack at Tim Taylors's Landlord Extract Kit" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/first-crack-at-tim-taylorss-landlord-extract-kit#post-30283 Sat, 04 Feb 2012 21:50:19 +0000 seamus48 30283@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ A bit of prep beforehand, 75 mins total boil time, and then about 35 mins cooling the wort before bunging into the FV and pitching etc and a then quick clean up. 2.5 hours all in? Not rushing... just plodding along and enjoying it. <img src="http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_mrgreen.gif" title=":mrgreen:" class="bb_smilies" /> Did other stuff during the boil etc so it's not like you are sat there watching it constantly. Mark on "First Crack at Tim Taylors's Landlord Extract Kit" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/first-crack-at-tim-taylorss-landlord-extract-kit#post-30281 Sat, 04 Feb 2012 21:42:16 +0000 Mark 30281@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Yes i have every thing else except the pot and muslim bags. May well in the near future have a go at extract. How long did it take BBS from start to all in FV? seamus48 on "First Crack at Tim Taylors's Landlord Extract Kit" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/first-crack-at-tim-taylorss-landlord-extract-kit#post-30278 Sat, 04 Feb 2012 21:33:09 +0000 seamus48 30278@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Yeah, really straight forward. See todays pics above... no more difficult that that. You just need a big stockpot and you should already have anything else you need. <img src="http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_mrgreen.gif" title=":mrgreen:" class="bb_smilies" /> Mark on "First Crack at Tim Taylors's Landlord Extract Kit" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/first-crack-at-tim-taylorss-landlord-extract-kit#post-30277 Sat, 04 Feb 2012 21:29:07 +0000 Mark 30277@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Do instructions come with these? Are they easy to follow? seamus48 on "First Crack at Tim Taylors's Landlord Extract Kit" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/first-crack-at-tim-taylorss-landlord-extract-kit#post-30275 Sat, 04 Feb 2012 21:24:01 +0000 seamus48 30275@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ From the brew UK shop, price varied by kit and chosen yeast option. Mussie bags available on the site too. A real one-stop-shop <img src="http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_mrgreen.gif" title=":mrgreen:" class="bb_smilies" /> Mark on "First Crack at Tim Taylors's Landlord Extract Kit" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/first-crack-at-tim-taylorss-landlord-extract-kit#post-30274 Sat, 04 Feb 2012 21:16:08 +0000 Mark 30274@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ How much were these extract kits you purchased? Do you get the muslin bags included? seamus48 on "First Crack at Tim Taylors's Landlord Extract Kit" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/first-crack-at-tim-taylorss-landlord-extract-kit#post-30272 Sat, 04 Feb 2012 21:12:25 +0000 seamus48 30272@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ I think it's due right across that way too... <img src="http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_eek.gif" title="8O" class="bb_smilies" /> Mark on "First Crack at Tim Taylors's Landlord Extract Kit" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/first-crack-at-tim-taylorss-landlord-extract-kit#post-30271 Sat, 04 Feb 2012 21:08:08 +0000 Mark 30271@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Hope the snowy weather does not get down to essex or Cambridgeshire as supposed to be going to RAF Duxford tommorrow. seamus48 on "First Crack at Tim Taylors's Landlord Extract Kit" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/first-crack-at-tim-taylorss-landlord-extract-kit#post-30267 Sat, 04 Feb 2012 20:53:04 +0000 seamus48 30267@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ We're gonna build a beerman!!!! <img src="http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_mrgreen.gif" title=":mrgreen:" class="bb_smilies" /> Timbo77 on "First Crack at Tim Taylors's Landlord Extract Kit" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/first-crack-at-tim-taylorss-landlord-extract-kit#post-30263 Sat, 04 Feb 2012 20:43:41 +0000 Timbo77 30263@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Good effort there buddy, I am liking the idea of a snowman chiller (any excuse to go and play in the snow eh...) Snow is coming down a bit heavier here in the midlands, started about lunch time<img src="http://www.sherv.net/cm/emo/christmas/building-snowman-smiley-emoticon.gif"> seamus48 on "First Crack at Tim Taylors's Landlord Extract Kit" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/first-crack-at-tim-taylorss-landlord-extract-kit#post-30261 Sat, 04 Feb 2012 20:32:28 +0000 seamus48 30261@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Started here about 90 mins ago... fine flakes like sand grains but due to get 15cm or more overnight <img src="http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_sad.gif" title=":(" class="bb_smilies" /> Mark on "First Crack at Tim Taylors's Landlord Extract Kit" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/first-crack-at-tim-taylorss-landlord-extract-kit#post-30259 Sat, 04 Feb 2012 20:27:22 +0000 Mark 30259@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ SNOW <img src="http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_eek.gif" title="8O" class="bb_smilies" /> None in Sarfend seamus48 on "First Crack at Tim Taylors's Landlord Extract Kit" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/first-crack-at-tim-taylorss-landlord-extract-kit#post-30258 Sat, 04 Feb 2012 20:24:32 +0000 seamus48 30258@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ It went really smoothly... now the snow has arrived we are thinking about building a snowman wort chiller tomorrow for the WTA ... there's green for ya <img src="http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_mrgreen.gif" title=":mrgreen:" class="bb_smilies" /> Nath on "First Crack at Tim Taylors's Landlord Extract Kit" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/first-crack-at-tim-taylorss-landlord-extract-kit#post-30257 Sat, 04 Feb 2012 20:22:47 +0000 Nath 30257@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Nice job man! Yummy yummy extract on the go! seamus48 on "First Crack at Tim Taylors's Landlord Extract Kit" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/first-crack-at-tim-taylorss-landlord-extract-kit#post-30247 Sat, 04 Feb 2012 20:07:57 +0000 seamus48 30247@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Yarp... he is a good brewer! Would have cracked on with the WTA too but SWMBO put her foot down with a firm hand and kicked us out of the kitchen so she could get the dinner on... <img src="http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_redface.gif" title=":oops:" class="bb_smilies" /> We'll do it tomorrow and I'll kick back with some more mighty Doom bottles instead <img src="http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_mrgreen.gif" title=":mrgreen:" class="bb_smilies" /> Mark on "First Crack at Tim Taylors's Landlord Extract Kit" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/first-crack-at-tim-taylorss-landlord-extract-kit#post-30243 Sat, 04 Feb 2012 19:56:59 +0000 Mark 30243@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Good work there Seamus, You have taken some good photo's of brew buddyson making it up <img src="http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_smile.gif" title=":-)" class="bb_smilies" /> seamus48 on "First Crack at Tim Taylors's Landlord Extract Kit" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/first-crack-at-tim-taylorss-landlord-extract-kit#post-30233 Sat, 04 Feb 2012 19:33:00 +0000 seamus48 30233@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Ok, our first crack at the new Brew UK Timothy Taylor's Landlord Extract kit: All ingredients checked as being present and correct and everything sanitised(?) with videne then rinsed (yes I know it doesn't need it but I do it anyway). <img src="http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a249/Seamus48/P1010179.jpg"> 6L of water on the stove in the 15L stockpot and brought up to 68C, then temp stabilised before steeping 18g of Black Malt for 30 mins in a mussie bag. <img src="http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a249/Seamus48/P1010163.jpg"> Meanwhile, weighed out 800g of DME and 25g of East Kent Goldings and 27 g of Styrian Goldings. <img src="http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a249/Seamus48/P1010165.jpg"> 30 mins is up so out with the black malt and in with the first lot of DME. The balloon whisk is a godsend here... it really helps to mix in the DME quickly and smoothly! <img src="http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a249/Seamus48/P1010168.jpg"> Bring the mix to the boil and add the first of the hops. <img src="http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a249/Seamus48/P1010169.jpg"> Got a nice vigorous boil going now... only 65 mins to wait <img src="http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_confused.gif" title=":?" class="bb_smilies" /> <img src="http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a249/Seamus48/P1010172.jpg"> While that's boilng away nicely the smackpack of Wyeast is doing its thing at 22C and the next batch of hops is weighed out... 18g of Styrians all ready to go. <img src="http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a249/Seamus48/P1010173.jpg"> Timer's gone off so in with the last of the hops and set the timer for another 10 mins... will be 75 mins total boil. <img src="http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a249/Seamus48/P1010174.jpg"> Then off with the heat, in with the remainder of the DME (1700g) and stir in nicely. <img src="http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a249/Seamus48/P1010177.jpg"> Stockpot into the sink with cold running water and the occasional stir... temp down from 100C to 28C in 35 mins (found out that the wort chiller is being 'borrowed' by brew buddy son's mate without telling me!) <img src="http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a249/Seamus48/P1010178.jpg"> 8L of cold water into the FV, then the contents of the stockpot poured into it through the strainer using the hops to help filter out the crud. <img src="http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a249/Seamus48/P1010180.jpg"> Topped up to 21L also added through the hop bed to wash out the last of the flavours... by which time the smackpack has swollen up to bursting point! Quick temp check 21C... good to go... <img src="http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a249/Seamus48/P1010181.jpg"> Opened carefully and poured in to the aerated wort... <img src="http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a249/Seamus48/P1010182.jpg"> OG check, bang on 1042, FV lid on, air lock in, tucked away at a constant 20C for the next 14 days, job done! <img src="http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_mrgreen.gif" title=":mrgreen:" class="bb_smilies" /> <img src="http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a249/Seamus48/P1010185.jpg"> beany151067 on "Planned a days fishing" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/planned-a-days-fishing#post-29899 Thu, 02 Feb 2012 02:31:09 +0000 beany151067 29899@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ make all the beer now and take it fishing in the summer saracen on "first bottled beer" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/first-bottled-beer#post-29827 Tue, 31 Jan 2012 23:35:46 +0000 saracen 29827@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Whoops. Wrong thread. saracen on "first bottled beer" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/first-bottled-beer#post-29826 Tue, 31 Jan 2012 23:35:00 +0000 saracen 29826@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ No.... her name wasn't Betty. I forget..... it's my age. garrycav on "first bottled beer" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/first-bottled-beer#post-29818 Tue, 31 Jan 2012 22:48:30 +0000 garrycav 29818@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ ...I say 'better' but it's been awhile since I had a Proper Job, I shall refresh my taste buds with a bottle or two at the weekend assuming Waitrose stock it that is, they haven't failed me before. I do love Betty <img src="http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_lol.gif" title=":lol:" class="bb_smilies" /> saracen on "first bottled beer" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/first-bottled-beer#post-29811 Tue, 31 Jan 2012 22:00:04 +0000 saracen 29811@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ I had a Cornish Blonde once. Happy days. Goliath on "first bottled beer" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/first-bottled-beer#post-29797 Tue, 31 Jan 2012 21:04:43 +0000 Goliath 29797@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ I like a lot of Cornish Ales, Stoggs is nice, I liked the Cornish Blonde too. As seamus says, each to their own <img src="http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_smile.gif" title=":)" class="bb_smilies" /> seamus48 on "first bottled beer" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/first-bottled-beer#post-29796 Tue, 31 Jan 2012 20:55:41 +0000 seamus48 29796@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Betty is nice enough, and I've drunk loads of it over the years along with most other local Cornish ales but I don't necessarily agree with better... each to their own. <img src="http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_wink.gif" title=":wink:" class="bb_smilies" /> garrycav on "first bottled beer" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/first-bottled-beer#post-29795 Tue, 31 Jan 2012 20:41:12 +0000 garrycav 29795@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ There is a lot of fans of Proper Job on the forum.....for a better Cornish Ale try Betty Stoggs from Skinners, lovely drop! Nath on "Bottled Amarillo, Brewing Ginger" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/bottled-amarillo-brewing-ginger#post-29750 Mon, 30 Jan 2012 21:10:00 +0000 Nath 29750@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Check out the fabled double brew day! Nice one, been ages since I got a double brew on. beerlover1983 on "Bottled Amarillo, Brewing Ginger" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/bottled-amarillo-brewing-ginger#post-29696 Sun, 29 Jan 2012 21:19:00 +0000 beerlover1983 29696@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Lol i can guess what he thoaght you was doing with root ginger <img src="http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_smile.gif" title=":)" class="bb_smilies" /> hehe Timbo77 on "Bottled Amarillo, Brewing Ginger" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/bottled-amarillo-brewing-ginger#post-29695 Sun, 29 Jan 2012 20:37:46 +0000 Timbo77 29695@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ I had quite a productive day yesterday. Started off by bottling 40 bottles of Amarillo but managed to smash a bottle whilst capping, I was more heartbroken about losing the contents than concerned about the shattered glass everywhere! <img src="http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_sad.gif" title=":(" class="bb_smilies" /> Anyway, bottling is sooo much easier using one of those strap on bottling aid gismos <img src="http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_smile.gif" title=":)" class="bb_smilies" /> I couldn't help having to sample the last drop left behind (I think I'm gonna like this Amarillo a lot!) After the clear up operation, I couldn't believe it wasn't lunch time yet so I thought 'ginger beer'! <img src="http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_smile.gif" title=":)" class="bb_smilies" /> Then popped to the shops and got the ingredients, only to get the most weirdest looks from fellow shoppers around me when selecting the ginger..."doing something with ginger tonight mate"? one guy asked. but anyways, got back home, followed the recipe on here for 23 litres and now the house is smelling nice and erm...gingery! <img src="http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_smile.gif" title=":)" class="bb_smilies" /> I'm lucky enough to have my kitchen as the brewery <img src="http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_mrgreen.gif" title=":mrgreen:" class="bb_smilies" /> saracen on "first bottled beer" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/first-bottled-beer#post-29608 Sat, 28 Jan 2012 20:31:11 +0000 saracen 29608@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Just tried another Tesco. None there either. It's true wot I said about them. Don't give a stuff for the customer. seamus48 on "first bottled beer" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/first-bottled-beer#post-29603 Sat, 28 Jan 2012 20:04:13 +0000 seamus48 29603@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Blame Fred iceman on "first bottled beer" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/first-bottled-beer#post-29602 Sat, 28 Jan 2012 20:03:00 +0000 iceman 29602@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Its amazing how my first bottled wheat beer ended up with a trip to the supermarket by seamus48. Fantastic Goliath on "first bottled beer" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/first-bottled-beer#post-29583 Sat, 28 Jan 2012 16:03:40 +0000 Goliath 29583@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Ahh! Cheers for the schooling, seamus <img src="http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_smile.gif" title=":)" class="bb_smilies" /> seamus48 on "first bottled beer" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/first-bottled-beer#post-29578 Sat, 28 Jan 2012 15:25:29 +0000 seamus48 29578@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Yes Emmet is a derivative word from the old English 'aemete'meaning ant. Commonly used west of the Tamar to mean 'tourist'. And if my Tesco didn't sell PJ I would move... Good God man, One might be forced to live in England at the moment but one doesn't have to be a blo*dy heathen! Standards have to be maintained. <img src="http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_redface.gif" title=":oops:" class="bb_smilies" /> saracen on "first bottled beer" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/first-bottled-beer#post-29574 Sat, 28 Jan 2012 15:14:46 +0000 saracen 29574@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ I don't think there's any cure for you, Seamus. Our Forum would be a poorer place without you. The road from the town to the pier in Paignton, lined with amusements and Ice Creams, is known as Grockles Row. I believe Emmets is also a word for ants? Of course, all your procedure only works if your local Tesco stocks the blasted stuff!! seamus48 on "first bottled beer" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/first-bottled-beer#post-29571 Sat, 28 Jan 2012 14:57:56 +0000 seamus48 29571@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Yeah that would work mate... although grockles is not the correct term (prevalent in Somerset and some areas of Devon I believe)... 'Emmets' is the word you are looking for. I think it's important to use the correct terminology so we don't confuse the newbs. <img src="http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_wink.gif" title=":wink:" class="bb_smilies" /> Goliath on "first bottled beer" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/first-bottled-beer#post-29568 Sat, 28 Jan 2012 14:54:37 +0000 Goliath 29568@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ haha very good, seamus <img src="http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_wink.gif" title=";)" class="bb_smilies" /> I like to get a bit more into it - takes a whole day, but this is the best method. The vehicle entering procedure is the same, however we now move on to the more advanced method in 'How to Drive a Motor Vehicle on Great British Roads' by going past the local Tesco and all the way down to Cornwall. When the boil (road rage) is over, locate a small pub, being careful to filter out most of the grockles (they can add a nasty taste to the brew). Next step is to stand back and marvel at the bar filled up with St. Austell pumps and ask the barman for a pint of Proper Job. Currency exchange procedure is the same, as with sitting down and enjoying your hard earned pint. seamus48 on "first bottled beer" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/first-bottled-beer#post-29567 Sat, 28 Jan 2012 14:38:55 +0000 seamus48 29567@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Ok... my extract recipe for a perfect pint of PJ... Extract car key from jacket pocket and open car door. Carefully enter the vehicle, put on seat belt, start car and set temperature to 20c using heating or cooling elements before moving off (the rest of this procedure is pretty clearly explained in GW's book, How to Drive a Motor Vehicle on Great British Roads). Make your way to local Tesco store and park in car park. If you park as far away from the front doors as possible and leave your jacket zip open you will achieve an excellent cold break as you make your way across the car park. Navigate your way to the beer section and locate bottles of PJ. Put half a dozen in your goods strainer (a rectangular steel mesh basket that will allow discarded sweetie wrappers and other undesireables to fall through whilst retaining bottles of PJ). This is also a good time to add other items wanted by the SWMBO that will add flavour and aroma to your relationship such as a bunch of flowers or something exotic like Ferrero Roches. Take the whole lot to the check out and wait for 60 mins in the queue. 15 mins before the end of the wait add a couple of impulse buys from the shelves immediately to your right. 10 Mins from the end of your wait extract currency from your wallet or pocket as appropriate. Sterling is found to work best although other currencies may be accepted if you happen to have old stock hanging about the house from previous brew purchases (it's usually best to run these items through a currency converter first to ensure you have the correct values for each - these are often found in branches of local banks). When greeted by surly check out staff smile sweetly and hand over the correct amount of sterling to complete the purchase. Rack items across to second vessel for transportation. Carrier bags (invariably obtainable in large numbers for a small fee from the cashier) can work quite well here and there is not normally any requirement for disinfecting, sterilising, sanitising or whatever. You may wish to consider a cornyflake box as an alternative to a carrier bags but this has it's own pros and cons which will be explored in a later post. I find carriers work fine for me... I like to keep it simple. Place any returned coinage back in pocket and retain for future brew purchases (you can often use up lots of odds and sods this way and be pleasantly surprised by the results). Gather up your goods, make your way back to vehicle having done up your jacket to avoid a second cold break and repeat driving procedure until you reach home. Give flowers to SWMBO, pat the dog, pour first bottle of PJ into suitable glass, place others into fridge, and retire in front of TV with DVD or sporting event of your choice. Now I'm sure some if the more experienced brew purchasers on this forum will have their own suggestions as to how to achieve a better pint of PJ but this method works fine for me. Best of luck with yours! <img src="http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_wink.gif" title=":wink:" class="bb_smilies" /> saracen on "first bottled beer" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/first-bottled-beer#post-29561 Sat, 28 Jan 2012 13:51:37 +0000 saracen 29561@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Well, I keep saying this, but the extract recipes/kits will be available soon. Sorry, Seamus, PJ isn't one of them. We thought we'd use your winning recipe for a kit. Goliath on "first bottled beer" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/first-bottled-beer#post-29558 Sat, 28 Jan 2012 13:13:35 +0000 Goliath 29558@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ <blockquote>It can be as deep or as superficial as you want. Many people spend half an hour putting a kit in the FV and drink perfectly good beer 4 weeks later. Those of us who like to know more about it spend hours looking at the theory and finding out what does what, when and how..... and at the end of it, we drink perfectly good beer 4 weeks later. </blockquote> Wise words, there! This hobby is great, as you can get as deep into it as you like, there's always something more to find out about and learn, experiment with, etc. but at the same time, you can make perfectly good beer with minimal effort <img src="http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_smile.gif" title=":)" class="bb_smilies" /> I'm also looking forward to the new extract kits... exciting times! seamus48 on "first bottled beer" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/first-bottled-beer#post-29556 Sat, 28 Jan 2012 13:01:03 +0000 seamus48 29556@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ I'm waiting for the new recipe kits before putting a large order in... I hope a PJ is one of 'em <img src="http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_redface.gif" title=":oops:" class="bb_smilies" /> saracen on "first bottled beer" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/first-bottled-beer#post-29528 Fri, 27 Jan 2012 19:05:48 +0000 saracen 29528@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Extract brewing is quick, simple and needs minimal equipment.... plus it makes cracking good beer. Greg will be posting 60 or so new extract recipes soon, together with kits to make them, from easy drinking 3.6% ABV Bitters to 8.5% ABV Robinsons Old Tom. All the kits will have the exact amounts of ingredients and clear instructions. In addition to the stuff you have for kit brewing, all you need is a stockpot that will hold 12 lts. We only boil 6 lts, but you need the extra capacity to stop boil overs. For a book, all you really need is Graham Wheeler's "Brew your own British Real Ale", and maybe "Camra Guide to Home Brewing", also by GW. Try to avoid digging to far into other sources of info, especially on the net. There's too much bad info. GW's sytem is sound, so it pays to stick within his guideleines. iceman on "first bottled beer" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/first-bottled-beer#post-29511 Fri, 27 Jan 2012 09:23:26 +0000 iceman 29511@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Think I will spend most of this year doing extract and a lot of reading. Hopefully get some more stuff together and have a go at full grain at the end of the year when I have more time. Plus I want to get a big stock built up as quick as I can. wont have time in the summer loads of jobs to do outdoors but will need a good beer at the weekend. simonb_13 on "#9 - AG-BIAB - Mary's Chocolate Orange Porter" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/9-ag-biab-marys-chocolate-orange-porter#post-29476 Thu, 26 Jan 2012 20:37:54 +0000 simonb_13 29476@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Shame it's not the same for my turbo cider. Still as dry as a popcorn fart! saracen on "first bottled beer" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/first-bottled-beer#post-29468 Thu, 26 Jan 2012 19:10:29 +0000 saracen 29468@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ It can be as deep or as superficial as you want. Many people spend half an hour putting a kit in the FV and drink perfectly good beer 4 weeks later. Those of us who like to know more about it spend hours looking at the theory and finding out what does what, when and how..... and at the end of it, we drink perfectly good beer 4 weeks later. Steve_K on "Brewferm Ambiorix" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/brewferm-ambiorix-1#post-29434 Thu, 26 Jan 2012 12:36:11 +0000 Steve_K 29434@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ I did the Abbey and Diablo kits back in the day, not bad results but they take a long time to mature iceman on "Brewferm Ambiorix" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/brewferm-ambiorix-1#post-29419 Thu, 26 Jan 2012 08:23:54 +0000 iceman 29419@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Another brew on. Not for the purest but I got given a can of Brewferm Ambiorix and due to work cant get my extract on so I thought I would get this going as I will have to bottle it up and leave for abot 3 months. I think it is going to be very strong and a bit sweet. I did not have any brewing suger or spray malt to hand so decided to get some muscavado suger as its a dark beer. It said to put in 1075 grams so I got a 1kilo bag and a 500 gram bag put the one kilo bag in fv and when I opened the 500 gram the bag split and half of it went in. Just had a look this morning and its bubbling away like mad and has a yeast layer about 6 inch. Has anyone else tried one of these kits. iceman on "first bottled beer" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/first-bottled-beer#post-29418 Thu, 26 Jan 2012 08:05:00 +0000 iceman 29418@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ OMG things have come on so far since I last did this as a hobby. When I did it before you got a kit with a bag of yeast and sprinkled it over the top and hoped for the best. Think I am really going to like doing it again its a lot more interesting and better tasting. kilconlea on "#9 - AG-BIAB - Mary's Chocolate Orange Porter" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/9-ag-biab-marys-chocolate-orange-porter#post-29409 Wed, 25 Jan 2012 23:44:38 +0000 kilconlea 29409@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Spot on Simon, I did your Twibute ExtrAct last year and was unimpressed, then discovered, in the garage, a forgotten bottle months (probably 4) later, it was lovely. Another planned. Greg on "#9 - AG-BIAB - Mary's Chocolate Orange Porter" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/9-ag-biab-marys-chocolate-orange-porter#post-29404 Wed, 25 Jan 2012 23:35:43 +0000 Greg 29404@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Wow that is patience Simon. Good news. simonb_13 on "#9 - AG-BIAB - Mary's Chocolate Orange Porter" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/9-ag-biab-marys-chocolate-orange-porter#post-29401 Wed, 25 Jan 2012 23:33:22 +0000 simonb_13 29401@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ A year on and I've opened a bottle of this. It's very lively and tastes quite chocolatey. Really amazed at how just leaving beers to mature makes such a huge difference. Even the missus liked it. saracen on "first bottled beer" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/first-bottled-beer#post-29380 Wed, 25 Jan 2012 22:17:49 +0000 saracen 29380@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Hi Iceman. Now you have opened a can of worms! <blockquote>One thing I have noticed in the recipe section of the G.W. book there is no yeast I take it you can use what best suits or is available.</blockquote> Briefly, different yeast strains attenuate (ferment out to) different extents. Typically, they go to 70% - 85%, meaning 70% - 85% of the fermentable sugars in the wort will be turned to alcohol. Now, you'll notice in GW's recipes he quotes Original Graivity and Final gravity. The difference between the 2 gives the required attenuation. So, Worthington White Shield requires 84% attenuation, while Hop Back Mild requires 72%. Old Peculiar is 74%. Clearly, they need different yeasts. You can then go to: <a href="http://www.wyeastlab.com/hb_yeaststrain.cfm" rel="nofollow">http://www.wyeastlab.com/hb_yeaststrain.cfm</a> and search through until you find yeast strains that; a) suit the characteristics of the beer, and b) attenuate to the right level. The main reason Graham gives for not recommending yeasts is that is too much speculation as to the origins. See here: <a href="http://www.mrmalty.com/yeast.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.mrmalty.com/yeast.htm</a> Nath on "first bottled beer" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/first-bottled-beer#post-29373 Wed, 25 Jan 2012 22:03:44 +0000 Nath 29373@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ <blockquote>I can see this book is going to cost me some time and money just about ready to go onto extract and now wanting to do full grain.</blockquote> If I had a pound for every person who goes to extract from kits then all grain from extract....well.....I would buy you the equipment! Slippery slope Im afraid, we alll take the plunge sooner or later! iceman on "first bottled beer" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/first-bottled-beer#post-29367 Wed, 25 Jan 2012 21:45:20 +0000 iceman 29367@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ One thing I have noticed in the recipe section of the G.W. book there is no yeast I take it you can use what best suits or is available. Another thing after reading a bit of it today I can see this book is going to cost me some time and money just about ready to go onto extract and now wanting to do full grain. saracen on "first bottled beer" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/first-bottled-beer#post-29365 Wed, 25 Jan 2012 21:36:41 +0000 saracen 29365@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ No idea how it happened, Iceman. I've been trying to get Beer Engine to do it again and there's no way. They say computers don't make mistakes.... but they're wrong! iceman on "first bottled beer" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/first-bottled-beer#post-29364 Wed, 25 Jan 2012 21:35:04 +0000 iceman 29364@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Hey don't apologize nothing wrong with a strong beer now and then <img src="http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_biggrin.gif" title=":D" class="bb_smilies" /> It would have been funny if I had of done it could imagine my mates coming up and all falling over after a few pints. <img src="http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_lol.gif" title=":lol:" class="bb_smilies" /> saracen on "first bottled beer" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/first-bottled-beer#post-29334 Wed, 25 Jan 2012 19:05:15 +0000 saracen 29334@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Hi Iceman That recipe is a long way out. I've no idea why, or how Beer Engine came up with it. I can only think it was mixed up within the program during the conversion. When you simply do the recipe, you tend not to notice it, but it's way out. It would give 8.2% ABV. Good job your people are checking it. The bit I don't understand is that the specifications it's come up with are right but could never correspond with the ingredients. This is correct. I can only apologise and hope it's not too inconvenient for you. I suspect there may have been so many opinions for this that I used the wrong figures, but the software should have sorted it. Fortunately it hasn't happened with the others. Dried Malt Extract Pale. 10 EBC. 1770 grams Dried Malt Ext. Xtra Pale. 5.5 EBC. 1770 grams Crystal Malt. 130 EBC. 295 grams Chocolate Malt. 1050 EBC. 215 grams Yeast: S-04, Wyeast 1098 or WLP 007 Challenger Whole. AA 8.2% 75 mins. 25 grams Fuggle Whole. AA 4.9% 75 mins. 15 grams Golding EKG Whole. AA 5.7%. 10 mins. 14 grams Styrian Goldings (Celia) Whole. AA 4.17%. 0 mins. 10 grams 0% Final Volume: 23 Litres Original Gravity: 1.058 Final Gravity: 1.014 Alcohol Content: 5.7% ABV Bitterness: 29 EBU Colour: 95 EBC iceman on "first bottled beer" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/first-bottled-beer#post-29261 Wed, 25 Jan 2012 13:42:30 +0000 iceman 29261@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ I thought it was you that gave it me but could not remember. I gave it to the home brew shop and they asked where I had got it from, I said I thought it was from the G.W. book so they said they would check it in the book. My book finally arrived today so I can get stuck into some reading and hopefully refresh my memory of the good old days of my past mashing days.I have several micro breweries within a few miles and some big ones so once I get a stock up and start to experiment again might see if I can get some yeast off them.I live by bruepak but they wont deal with individuals so no chance of getting anything off them. saracen on "first bottled beer" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/first-bottled-beer#post-29241 Wed, 25 Jan 2012 12:27:15 +0000 saracen 29241@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ That's the one I posted for Old Peculiar. It's fairly accurate and is the recipe Greg's kit will be made up to, but we changed the Yeast to S-04, Wyeast 1098 or WLP 007. It's for 23 lts, which is a lot of a strong beer like Old Peculiar and makes the kit very expensive. With liquid yeast it would be around £45. The Brew UK recipe is for 13 lts at the moment. The other 2 beers you mentioned are in there, too. The London Pride is already on sale. iceman on "first bottled beer" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/first-bottled-beer#post-29206 Wed, 25 Jan 2012 07:49:08 +0000 iceman 29206@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Dried Malt Extract Pale. 10 EBC. 2520 grams 66.1% of Extract Dried Malt Extract Extra Pale. 5.5 EBC. 2520 grams 26.2% of Extract Crystal Malt. 130 EBC. 295 grams 4.4% of Extract Chocolate Malt. 1050 EBC 0 lbs. 6.1 oz 175 grams 3.2% of Extract Yeast: S-04 or Wyeast 1968 London ESB Challenger Whole. AA 8.2% 75 mins. 25 grams 70.4% EBU Fuggle Whole. AA 5.4% 75 mins. 13 grams 24.1% EBU Golding EKG Whole. AA 5.7% 10 mins. 8 grams 5.4% EBU Styrian Goldings Whole. AA 4.5%. 10 grams 0% EBU (Dry hopped in fermenter after 3 days of fermentation) I am totally lost at the moment with the beer engine so I am just following what I am told its for old peculiar. I have also asked for london pride and speckled hen. They know in the shop that I am doing extract so hopefully they will sort things out. I am trying to get loads of different ones done as quick as I can so I can get a good store made up for the summer.I will keep an eye on what greg is putting out and hopefully get a few off him as well. saracen on "first bottled beer" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/first-bottled-beer#post-29145 Tue, 24 Jan 2012 21:03:27 +0000 saracen 29145@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ If you look at the lower panel of Beer Engine, you'll see there's a column headed 'EBU' If you change the time setting, that column chages. Also, if you fix the EBU in the 'Bitterness EBU' box, then change the time for 1 hop, the amount of the other changes to compensat and still give the same values. BE is quite sophisticated when you find your way round it. Glad you London Pride's going well. It's never going to be an exact copy, because the water is different where you live, the brewery will almost certainly use brewing salts, the malt nay be to their own specification. There are so many variables, but it should be close. 4 weeks should be about right to condition. At the moment I would guess it has a slightly harsh bitterness. VSat on "first bottled beer" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/first-bottled-beer#post-29126 Tue, 24 Jan 2012 18:29:06 +0000 VSat 29126@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Hi Saracen, point taken, was just trying to highlight that Beersmith/Brewmate do give EBU/IBU values for 10 mins/post boil. Doesn't BE give EBU/IBU as zero for last 10 minutes post boil additions (I think when I had a tinker)? The formula for substituting different hops works for different AA as well of the same hops. I tend not to use BE because I BIAB and use Brewmate or Beersmith for water quantities. Anyway...thanks for your advice on the wlp002. The London Pride clone conditioning in the bottle but think this will be some time before ready to drink (about 4 weeks?). Early tasting check after a week not quite right! Als Pals on "first bottled beer" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/first-bottled-beer#post-29125 Tue, 24 Jan 2012 18:12:23 +0000 Als Pals 29125@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Sweeeet labels <img src="http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_cool.gif" title="8)" class="bb_smilies" /> saracen on "first bottled beer" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/first-bottled-beer#post-29122 Tue, 24 Jan 2012 18:06:49 +0000 saracen 29122@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Hi Vsat. Nice to see you again. Beer Engine does take account of hop additions. All you do is adjust the boil times in the 'Hop Variety' panel. Simply adjusting the AA figures doesn't quite do it. When you load a recipe into Beer Engine, using the same AA figures as Graham did, you'll get the correct IBU for the recipe, at the time it was written. There is a button on the right of Beer Engine marked '% EBU'. If you use this, the 'Hop Variety' panel show a %age figure in the last field. This gives you the original balance of the recipe. If you then 'tick' the box beside the panel marked 'Bitterness EBU', you can then adjust the AA value in the 'Hop Variety' panel and it will automatically adjust all the amounts of hops, but retain the same balance. All page 21 does is gives a formula for substituting different hops, which beer engine can do easily, provided you have a record of the original EBU%ages. VSat on "first bottled beer" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/first-bottled-beer#post-29121 Tue, 24 Jan 2012 17:50:25 +0000 VSat 29121@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Be aware of the IBUs if you use Beersmith and Brewmate as they adjust IBUS for post boil/last 10 minute hops whereas Beer Engine/GW's book do not. I BIAB though and find brewmate useful for calculating the volume of water needed and just convert the AA% of the hops in the recipe for new AA% amounts which - I think it tells you how to do this on p21 of his book. Basically (Amount in GW recipe x AA% as per book) divided by AA% of bought hops. Happy brewing! saracen on "first bottled beer" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/first-bottled-beer#post-29116 Tue, 24 Jan 2012 17:34:51 +0000 saracen 29116@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ It's an excellent book. If you go by what Graham says, you won't go far wrong. Try not to browse around the net looking at all sorts of advice, especially the American forums. Foreign brewing isn't the same as English and the advice is often bad and conflicting. You've found a good source of info both here and from GW. Try not to confuse yourself. There are many 'new' ways of brewing, with new ideas. Some are sound, but I reckon, as it's been going on for thousands of years and the beer still tastes good, stick with it. I'd be interested to know which beer you are going for and which yeast you will be using, just to see if it corresponds with my findings. iceman on "first bottled beer" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/first-bottled-beer#post-29115 Tue, 24 Jan 2012 17:22:01 +0000 iceman 29115@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Good advice that Saracen might try one from Greg as well he has some good kits on this shop site. just thought I would support my local home brew shop as well. The lady at the shop must be doing some working out on software as she told me she would give me a ring next week when she had the right yeast and had put together everything for an extract kit. They seem really helpful and don't seem to want me to waste money on things I don't need. Still awaiting on my 3rd gen Graham Wheelers book to arrive got it off e-bay for £7 and seller forgot to post it FOR A WEEK <img src="http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_evil.gif" title=":evil:" class="bb_smilies" /> just hope it arrives soon need some more reading. saracen on "first bottled beer" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/first-bottled-beer#post-29108 Tue, 24 Jan 2012 16:20:27 +0000 saracen 29108@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ There will be extract kits, from recipes in Graham Wheeler's book, on here very soon, and they will all have the correct amounts of hops and grains in them so there is no waste and no extra expense. Greg has them all and it's just a few days to get them online. Be careful of simply converting GW's recipes. They were formulated a few years ago and Hop Alpha Acids not only change year by year, but have improved a bit. It's not simply a case of adjusting the values. You have to convert the recipe using software, note the EBU %ages, then put in the new values and re-balance the recipe or you'll get the wrong bitterness. Also, when trying to replicate a beer, the yeast is very important. GW gives Original Gravity and Final Gravity figures to each recipe, and this is vital information. A beer which starts at 1.040 and ends at 1.010 needs a different yeast to a beer that starts at 1.040 and ends at 1.007. Without taking all this into account, and this has all been done with the Brew UK recipes, all you get is a brown beer. iceman on "first bottled beer" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/first-bottled-beer#post-29105 Tue, 24 Jan 2012 15:18:14 +0000 iceman 29105@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ <a href="http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/857/beerbottled.jpg/"><img src="http://img857.imageshack.us/img857/9487/beerbottled.jpg"></a> Uploaded with <a href="http://imageshack.us">ImageShack.us</a> Just finished bottling my second brew its a kit wheat beer. Thanx to all the help on this forum everything is going along very well. I now have a king keg 3/4 full of a very nice bitter and my first wheat beer bottled. I have just been given a 2 cans of brewferm lucky me Ambiorix and Abdij so will get them going. Think this will be the last kits that I do. Got a 19lt pan and am going to try the extract beer. again I am so lucky as we have a great brew shop local and the lady said that if I tell her the page number in graham wheelers(again got this from the advice here) book she will put the kit together for me.(think I have pulled lol.) Its just a shame that the nearest corny supplier on ebay is 85 miles away oh well cant have it all. saracen on "Bottle beer (Bah humbug)" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/bottle-beer-bah-humbug#post-29096 Tue, 24 Jan 2012 13:46:58 +0000 saracen 29096@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ I had that training. Shout, scream, swear, smash things and stomp on someone's head, preferably an EU one! Works for me. Technotrucker on "Bottle beer (Bah humbug)" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/bottle-beer-bah-humbug#post-29040 Tue, 24 Jan 2012 09:05:03 +0000 Technotrucker 29040@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ 10- Rog on that Saracen...pays bloody crap for what we do..job security what's that?..the big boys will close a depot at the drop of a hat...and don't get me started on the stress...we've had training how to deal with stress..IT DON'T WORK...<a href="http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php"><img src="http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-shocked001.gif"></a> Barracuda on "Cider/Wine Brew Day" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/ciderwine-brew-day#post-28954 Mon, 23 Jan 2012 20:10:35 +0000 Barracuda 28954@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Honestly, I'm fairly new to the brewing game, but Turbo Cider is so simple it's not been hard to get to grips with. Fermentation of a Demi has taken 7-10 days at around 18c. This has been roughly the same regardless of the addition of real fruit, or different quantities of sugar. The ferment start was surprisingly fast, with airlock bubbles with an hour (using 1tsp youngs wine yeast/champagne yeast per Demi) As for conditioning, I made a cider with ginger at christmas, and it was certainly drinkable after only an additional 10 days priming in 1 gallon PET's. Although the flavour was very dry and sharp, but refreshing with ice. My brewing colleague was able to leave his plain apple for at least 3 weeks, and he said there was a distinct improvement in the taste, with the fruit flavours being more distinct, and any yeasty type presence disappearing. With enough willpower I would leave for at least a month. As i'll be bottling my wine and this current batch (all 3 styles) at the same time, I think i'll put them away together, tasting after one month, and leaving for a second. My next challenge is to try and move away from the super dry cider and play with some non fermentable sugars to balance the sweetness. saracen on "Bottle beer (Bah humbug)" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/bottle-beer-bah-humbug#post-28951 Mon, 23 Jan 2012 19:14:57 +0000 saracen 28951@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Yes, Techno. Trouble is, do I want to go full time trucking? It's not getting easier, no better paid, no less stressful and there's less and less job security every day. I think it might be time to look alsewhere. Technotrucker on "Bottle beer (Bah humbug)" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/bottle-beer-bah-humbug#post-28948 Mon, 23 Jan 2012 19:09:26 +0000 Technotrucker 28948@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ I was self-employed for 7 years..I had a good run but went back to PAYE. saracen on "Cider/Wine Brew Day" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/ciderwine-brew-day#post-28940 Mon, 23 Jan 2012 18:48:51 +0000 saracen 28940@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ My Turbo was made a year ago, it's still in the garden... and still undrinkable. Given time, it will improve..... but I might not live that long! I think I might have overdone the fermentables in it. Nath on "Cider/Wine Brew Day" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/ciderwine-brew-day#post-28933 Mon, 23 Jan 2012 18:26:02 +0000 Nath 28933@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ How many turbo ciders have you done before mate? I only ask as ive yet to "dip my wick" in the glory that is turbo ciders. I have no kids this weekend so Im thinking of getting some turbo's on the go and wondered how long they would have to be fermented/conditiond for. Barracuda on "Cider/Wine Brew Day" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/ciderwine-brew-day#post-28931 Mon, 23 Jan 2012 17:50:53 +0000 Barracuda 28931@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Hey all. I seem to have a few things going on, so I thought a post would be in order. My Rioja is all done fermenting, and has been degassing with the stabilizer over the weekend. I'll be clearing in the next day or two, which is exciting, as a tasting is certainly in order! Also, I have 3 different turbo ciders on the go, these are in the last couple of days of fermentation I reckon. It's been really interesting to see the difference of the fermentation lvls depending on the contents of the Demi. My plain apple cider gently bubbled away for the duration, the one I added a blackberry juice (concentrate) to was fizzing like crazy for a day or two, I think this is due to the added sugar in the juice. Then one with some crushed real strawberries, big, foaming ferment on that one. And a great colour from the fruit. I'm going to bottle these all up later this week and leave them to sit for as long as I can resist. Looking forward to the results. saracen on "Bottle beer (Bah humbug)" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/bottle-beer-bah-humbug#post-28900 Mon, 23 Jan 2012 16:43:25 +0000 saracen 28900@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Hi Techno. Greg only got them yesterday and it's going to take bit of time to get it up and running. Give him a week. I've got to start on the AG versions of them soon, so there will be a choice. It should be a lot better than buying 3 x 100 gm packs of hops and only using 50 gms out of the lot. No waste, and cheaper all round. Hoping for some work to arrive. I'm self employed and drive for anyone who needs me. 2 jobs came in this morning, an hour later they both rang to cancel. Got Thursday, Friday and Saturday at the mo. Mark on "Bottle beer (Bah humbug)" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/bottle-beer-bah-humbug#post-28895 Mon, 23 Jan 2012 16:36:25 +0000 Mark 28895@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ don't sound that safe to me sqiffy <img src="http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_confused.gif" title=":?" class="bb_smilies" /> seamus48 on "Bottle beer (Bah humbug)" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/bottle-beer-bah-humbug#post-28894 Mon, 23 Jan 2012 16:35:26 +0000 seamus48 28894@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Nah... drive it like ya stole it... <img src="http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_wink.gif" title=":wink:" class="bb_smilies" /> Sqiffy on "Bottle beer (Bah humbug)" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/bottle-beer-bah-humbug#post-28892 Mon, 23 Jan 2012 16:33:50 +0000 Sqiffy 28892@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Drive safe, fella. <img src="http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_smile.gif" title=":)" class="bb_smilies" /> Technotrucker on "Bottle beer (Bah humbug)" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/bottle-beer-bah-humbug#post-28891 Mon, 23 Jan 2012 16:32:28 +0000 Technotrucker 28891@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ No I'm on a 45 at Leic F SS M1 and I'v got to get my ass in gear... <img src="http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_lol.gif" title=":lol:" class="bb_smilies" /> Sqiffy on "Bottle beer (Bah humbug)" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/bottle-beer-bah-humbug#post-28889 Mon, 23 Jan 2012 16:30:31 +0000 Sqiffy 28889@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Is this a new game thread TT? Do we get to finish the sentence? <img src="http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_smile.gif" title=":)" class="bb_smilies" /> Technotrucker on "Bottle beer (Bah humbug)" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/bottle-beer-bah-humbug#post-28887 Mon, 23 Jan 2012 16:28:15 +0000 Technotrucker 28887@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Saracen Hi....Where are they?? I've had a peep in the recieps section... Mark on "Bottle beer (Bah humbug)" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/bottle-beer-bah-humbug#post-28885 Mon, 23 Jan 2012 16:26:59 +0000 Mark 28885@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Rango don't move, i said don't move. <img src="http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_eek.gif" title="8O" class="bb_smilies" /> outlaw on "Bottle beer (Bah humbug)" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/bottle-beer-bah-humbug#post-28865 Mon, 23 Jan 2012 15:55:57 +0000 outlaw 28865@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ do 1 mark saracen on "Bottle beer (Bah humbug)" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/bottle-beer-bah-humbug#post-28864 Mon, 23 Jan 2012 15:55:12 +0000 saracen 28864@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Hi Techno. If you do short brews, you might be interested in having a go at Robinsons Old Tom. It's 8.5% ABV and it's one of the recipes I did for an extract kit. It's done to 11.0 lts, 105 EBC and 36 EBU. Quantity is easy to change. Uses Whitbread Golding and Golding hops, 75 min boil with additions in the last 10 minutes. Mark on "Bottle beer (Bah humbug)" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/bottle-beer-bah-humbug#post-28858 Mon, 23 Jan 2012 15:38:05 +0000 Mark 28858@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Where's Rango gone? Technotrucker on "Bottle beer (Bah humbug)" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/bottle-beer-bah-humbug#post-28840 Mon, 23 Jan 2012 11:36:34 +0000 Technotrucker 28840@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ I've got 2 corni's all ready Outlaw..but I like to make smaller brewe's every now & then just to see what comes out...you never know I may just hit what I'm brewing for. <a href="http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php"><img src="http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-bounce015.gif"></a> seamus48 on "Bottle beer (Bah humbug)" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/bottle-beer-bah-humbug#post-28675 Sun, 22 Jan 2012 23:08:39 +0000 seamus48 28675@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ ^+1 True 'nuff... <img src="http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_eek.gif" title="8O" class="bb_smilies" /> Mark on "Bottle beer (Bah humbug)" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/bottle-beer-bah-humbug#post-28673 Sun, 22 Jan 2012 23:06:25 +0000 Mark 28673@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ think outlaw been drinking to much red eye from dry gulch lol Nowt wrong with what i bottle, same as Seamus. seamus48 on "Bottle beer (Bah humbug)" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/bottle-beer-bah-humbug#post-28665 Sun, 22 Jan 2012 22:22:06 +0000 seamus48 28665@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Hey! When I bottle there ain't no undesirable volatiles girlfriend!!... Fermentation is over... I'm just carbonatin'.. <img src="http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_eek.gif" title="8O" class="bb_smilies" /> outlaw on "Bottle beer (Bah humbug)" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/bottle-beer-bah-humbug#post-28664 Sun, 22 Jan 2012 22:18:53 +0000 outlaw 28664@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ . outlaw on "Bottle beer (Bah humbug)" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/bottle-beer-bah-humbug#post-28646 Sun, 22 Jan 2012 21:39:11 +0000 outlaw 28646@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ . Technotrucker on "Bottle beer (Bah humbug)" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/bottle-beer-bah-humbug#post-28628 Sun, 22 Jan 2012 21:10:34 +0000 Technotrucker 28628@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ The Grolsch bottles are good...but at a price..and I don't drink it so It's no good. madlen_lieb on "Bottle beer (Bah humbug)" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/bottle-beer-bah-humbug#post-28622 Sun, 22 Jan 2012 20:28:21 +0000 madlen_lieb 28622@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ try grolsch swing tops, sooooo much easier, really fast and they look great lg madlen Technotrucker on "Bottle beer (Bah humbug)" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/bottle-beer-bah-humbug#post-28585 Sun, 22 Jan 2012 12:52:00 +0000 Technotrucker 28585@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ I love homebrewing..I hate having to bottle, no that's wrong, I don't mind doing say a small brew one I'm having a trial at..that's why I've gone down the Corni route. So this morning I've put my latest trial house bitter into bottles... <img src="http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_evil.gif" title=":evil:" class="bb_smilies" /> <img src="http://i997.photobucket.com/albums/af94/Dieseljockey/IMAG0010-1.jpg"> A mix of bottles as you can see...from left Purity..Newcastle..and Bud, now before anyone starts booing, I didn't drink the Bud they came from a mate at work. One thing with them the labels come off a treat, and they are 500ml going to ask for more (empty that is). Talking of labels I should pull my finger out and come up with some thing. Iestyn on "Save it or sink it" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/save-it-or-sink-it#post-28086 Tue, 17 Jan 2012 12:41:17 +0000 Iestyn 28086@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ will do. It's fermenting nicely now; good frothy head this morning. In truth, biggest lesson learnt is not to hurry the brew to keep wife and baby happy. Need to allow plenty of time and prepare advance. I'll get there. Mark on "Save it or sink it" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/save-it-or-sink-it#post-28041 Tue, 17 Jan 2012 06:59:05 +0000 Mark 28041@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ let us know whether it turns out a nice beer or a not so nice beer. Iestyn on "Save it or sink it" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/save-it-or-sink-it#post-27970 Mon, 16 Jan 2012 15:10:24 +0000 Iestyn 27970@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ SWEET. Thank you Thank you Thank you Nath on "Save it or sink it" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/save-it-or-sink-it#post-27967 Mon, 16 Jan 2012 15:04:16 +0000 Nath 27967@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Nope. I don't know what it is but brewing software beer smith tells me it's 1040 or 1041 depending if your hydrometer is calibrated at 20 or 15.6c. You may have missed the og but you will still have a decent beer Iestyn on "Save it or sink it" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/save-it-or-sink-it#post-27965 Mon, 16 Jan 2012 14:39:39 +0000 Iestyn 27965@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Nath, if you were here right now... <img src="http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_lol.gif" title=":lol:" class="bb_smilies" /> I thought there was a -0018 correction for 5c? Doesn't that make 1024? P.s. I have bought a 30L cool box, can't be doing with a leaky bucket no more! Nath on "Save it or sink it" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/save-it-or-sink-it#post-27957 Mon, 16 Jan 2012 13:26:32 +0000 Nath 27957@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ If you leave the beer at room temp with yeast then it will still give you approx 4% beer, dont do it man! Nath on "Save it or sink it" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/save-it-or-sink-it#post-27956 Mon, 16 Jan 2012 13:25:33 +0000 Nath 27956@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ DONT SINK IT. Temp correction is 1.040!!!! Iestyn on "Save it or sink it" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/save-it-or-sink-it#post-27951 Mon, 16 Jan 2012 11:31:54 +0000 Iestyn 27951@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ ok; sink it is. <img src="http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_cry.gif" title=":cry:" class="bb_smilies" /> If at first you don't succeed, buy decent kit.... Mark on "Save it or sink it" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/save-it-or-sink-it#post-27794 Sun, 15 Jan 2012 23:21:05 +0000 Mark 27794@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ I'd ditch it and buy a mash tun that works from brewuk. Iestyn on "Save it or sink it" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/save-it-or-sink-it#post-27699 Sun, 15 Jan 2012 18:29:27 +0000 Iestyn 27699@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Hi nath, read the og at 5c and was 1042 Nath on "Save it or sink it" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/save-it-or-sink-it#post-27640 Sun, 15 Jan 2012 13:16:55 +0000 Nath 27640@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Did you read the temp at 5c or was that a typo? Have you pitched the yeast yet? Sorry to hear bout the not so nice brewday bud <img src="http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_cry.gif" title=":cry:" class="bb_smilies" /> Iestyn on "Save it or sink it" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/save-it-or-sink-it#post-27635 Sun, 15 Jan 2012 11:51:03 +0000 Iestyn 27635@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ marnin y'all, Yesterdays st Austell old smoke went badly, to say the least. My home made mash tun leaked lots and I lost the first few litres of sweet treacly wort. Checked the og and came up with 1042 at 5 deg instead of 1056. Taking temp into account, og is 1024. Shouldn't take long to ferment! My question to you is, should I add some sugar to get the abv up or should I just go and buy some proper job, not from tesco, and ditch the black stuff. I'm putting it all down to experience, character building, rather than getting down about the epic fail. Next time... Thanks guys P.s radio 6 is cracking this morning, lovely Cerys Matthews on air Nath on "Planned a days fishing" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/planned-a-days-fishing#post-27422 Sat, 14 Jan 2012 00:24:45 +0000 Nath 27422@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ nice <img src="http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_cool.gif" title="8)" class="bb_smilies" /> oldbrewer on "Planned a days fishing" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/planned-a-days-fishing#post-27403 Fri, 13 Jan 2012 23:42:39 +0000 oldbrewer 27403@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Finished the brew, now cooling off in the utility room (Brewery). My partner says it stinks, I said it smells like a brewery, she said if thats what beer smells like I am glad I don't drink, I said I am glad you don't drink - MORE FOR ME!!!! Nath on "Planned a days fishing" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/planned-a-days-fishing#post-27357 Fri, 13 Jan 2012 20:08:03 +0000 Nath 27357@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ +1 to Mark, fish stinks wayyyyy more than the delightful smell of malty hoppy brewness! Als Pals on "Planned a days fishing" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/planned-a-days-fishing#post-27356 Fri, 13 Jan 2012 19:59:21 +0000 Als Pals 27356@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ 140lb.. Very nice mate can't beat a day on the lake away from all the stress!! Like they say, it ain't about the size.... As long as their good fighters. <img src="http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_redface.gif" title=":oops:" class="bb_smilies" /> oldbrewer on "Planned a days fishing" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/planned-a-days-fishing#post-27349 Fri, 13 Jan 2012 19:01:25 +0000 oldbrewer 27349@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Generally I fish a 9 lake fishery for tench, bream and roach. Saying that I had 2 12/13lb morror carp last year, 2 12/13lb bream and several tench over 7lb. Biggest net was 140lb bag of carp, tench, bream and roach, the carp were small mirrors, but good fighters. Als Pals on "Planned a days fishing" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/planned-a-days-fishing#post-27284 Fri, 13 Jan 2012 15:49:44 +0000 Als Pals 27284@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Can't beat a good pint of London pride, what kind of fishing u into mate? Like to do a bit of carping every now and then when I got the time and money <img src="http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_rolleyes.gif" title=":roll:" class="bb_smilies" /> Mark on "Planned a days fishing" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/planned-a-days-fishing#post-27283 Fri, 13 Jan 2012 15:48:36 +0000 Mark 27283@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Tell her it woulkd have been worse if you had bought fish home <img src="http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_wink.gif" title=":wink:" class="bb_smilies" /> Best choice mate. oldbrewer on "Planned a days fishing" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/planned-a-days-fishing#post-27274 Fri, 13 Jan 2012 15:08:45 +0000 oldbrewer 27274@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Planned a days fishing today, but the weather turned a little cold - damned cold in fact. So! cancelled the fishing and decided to brew a few gallons of London Pride. It is going well, but my partner says the house stinks, I say it smells like a brewery. Will follow up with another post when finished, with a few pics. I can drink the beer, can't eat the fish. merlin on ""2nd Wherry BB" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/2nd-wherry-bb#post-27082 Thu, 12 Jan 2012 19:23:11 +0000 merlin 27082@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Ok Fella's... I'll go with 'as is' and 'sup it and see' with St Peter's Golden, who know's could turn out to be a favourite.Thanks again. Mark81 on ""2nd Wherry BB" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/2nd-wherry-bb#post-27020 Thu, 12 Jan 2012 13:21:19 +0000 Mark81 27020@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ I'm glad you said that Saracen as I was about to ask if the St Peters Golden Ale was good. Next kit sorted. saracen on ""2nd Wherry BB" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/2nd-wherry-bb#post-27018 Thu, 12 Jan 2012 13:18:41 +0000 saracen 27018@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Hi Merlin. Your hop additions. You say the first 10gm of Goldings was boiled for 45 minutes. You need at least an hour to isommerise the Alpha Acid completely, so increase this to 60 minutes. Other than that, all seems good. There is no way of predicting the IBU of a kit. If I ever use Beer Engine to try to work out how many hops to use, I take an arbitary figure of 33 IBU, unless there's a reason to go for some other figure. Add Liquid Malt Extract until you get the OG/ABV, then enough hops of a type likely to be in that beer to get to 33 IBU, and tinker from there. It's not an exact science. You are unlikely to improve Golden Ale as it's a great beer anyway. All you'll do is change it's characteristics. Slightly stronger, more bitter, more hop flavour/aroma, etc. merlin on ""2nd Wherry BB" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/2nd-wherry-bb#post-26929 Wed, 11 Jan 2012 23:25:38 +0000 merlin 26929@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Nath /saracen Thank you both for your reassuring input, I was a little concerned with the 'bittering' !? of me 2nd Wherry but after a gargle during Kegging yesterday I was taken by surprise by the outcome. The 'bittering' was not overly so, as I'd expected, in fact, very ok, what really did take me by surprise was the smell or aroma ( as us con-a-sewers say ) orangey-fruity!? Could I conclude that the Wyeast1968 has orchestrated this, if so them yeasty-beasties are a magical addition to this er beer making. Now to the hopping, Brupaks - Goldings - Alpha Acid 5%... 10,10, and 10gr that's for a 45min boil, 30min steep ( both in 1.5lts water.. 250 & 500ml used respectively) and finally a dry hopping. Please... how could I predict the IBU's on a brew kit using GW's beer engine - to me it seems a little complicated to input the data and if that is possible what is the range of units I aim for. Now regarding the St-Peter's Golden Ale tinkering, I'm really, asking/questioning whether it can be improved upon in anyway, saving time and effort I suppose. It kinda would be nice for our local home brew shops to provide us with a mouth washing sample of the various brews on offer. All in All... I'm enjoying splashing about, like as a kid we all enjoyed jumping up and down in a puddle, simple pleasures. saracen on "Extract #2 Twibute Act" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/extract-2-twibute-act#post-26597 Tue, 10 Jan 2012 19:19:39 +0000 saracen 26597@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Tony's Twibute was very popular. Where is Tony? We all miss you, mate. saracen on ""2nd Wherry BB" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/2nd-wherry-bb#post-26583 Tue, 10 Jan 2012 16:57:00 +0000 saracen 26583@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Hi Nath. Hope you feel better soon. If it's what's going round it seems to hang on for a while. Hi Merlin 2 questions. 1) How long did you boil the 10 gms for? 2) ..... no.... forgot what it was.... oh yes. What type of Goldings did you use? It sounds like you did go a bit over the top, but as Nath says, it's a lot of beer and you'll be surprised how that hop kick mellows with time. The Golden Ale. Well, I don't like to plug it, but..... Post 2 <a href="http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/its-christmas-brew-time">Wherry Enhancement</a> It's tried and proved and gives a lift without going over the top. It would work with St Peter's just as well. Hop teas are all very well and they can be used successfully, but boiling hops to adjust the bitterness is a very unpredictable area. You need to be using some software to predict the results and Beer Engine is good for this. Steeping is another matter. Steeping for 30 minutes at 80°c will give flavour and aroma without increasing the bitterness. Higher temperatures will extract some Alpha Acid and give a harsh, bitter note. Really, you need to make a kit with no mods the first time, decide what you want to do with it, then work out how to do it. Nath on ""2nd Wherry BB" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/2nd-wherry-bb#post-26527 Tue, 10 Jan 2012 12:09:47 +0000 Nath 26527@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ 1968 yeast = tick <img src="http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_cool.gif" title="8)" class="bb_smilies" /> extra hops = tick <img src="http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_cool.gif" title="8)" class="bb_smilies" /> Dont worry about the bitterness, remember it has 20 litres of beer to disperse into. Tinkering is one of the best things about the hobby! Well.... Apart from the drinking! seamus48 on "Extract #2 Twibute Act" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/extract-2-twibute-act#post-26500 Mon, 09 Jan 2012 22:52:13 +0000 seamus48 26500@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ I think I'm gonna ponder over that a little then give it a crack... <img src="http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_smile.gif" title=":-)" class="bb_smilies" /> chef on "Extract #2 Twibute Act" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/extract-2-twibute-act#post-26489 Mon, 09 Jan 2012 21:38:19 +0000 chef 26489@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/62797430@N05/6668760453/"><img src="http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7015/6668760453_7576da9992.jpg"></a> <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/62797430@N05/6668760453/">22112011023</a> by <a href="http://www.flickr.com/people/62797430@N05/">Chef 57</a>, on Flickr Mine was considerably darker than the Tribute, and had much more maltiness to it, and an accompanyingly thicker mouthfeel. Very pleasant but lacking the hop kick of the original. I called it "Here Comes The Swell" after a Peter Bruntnell song (Here Come The Swells) because I had my first pint of draft Tribute after the first time I went surfing <img src="http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_smile.gif" title=":-)" class="bb_smilies" /> I've got another batch brewing at the moment, this time with WYEAST 1768 Special Bitter Yeast (instead of S-04) a little less crystal malt and way more hops. I've had a little sniff of it and it smells hoppy! I made a few mistakes making the current batch - I took a hydrometer reading and it was very low (1.020) so I boiled up some of the wort with an extra bit of extract in it and chucked it in to the FV. Then I realised I should have stirred the wort before taking the OG!! Oops. Going to be a strong one for me - OG was 1.050. I shouldn't have tried to do a brew while cooking for the family! merlin on ""2nd Wherry BB" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/2nd-wherry-bb#post-26452 Mon, 09 Jan 2012 19:06:30 +0000 merlin 26452@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Hello all....My 2nd Wherry BB has been down now for 12 days so will be Kegging it Wednesday - couple of mods done are.. used Wyeast 1968 and two types of hop teas poured in prior to tossing the yeast - one 250ml of 10gr boiled Goldings and another 500ml of 10gr Goldings steeped for 30min produced quite a bittering effect more than I care to admit is to my liking, will this tone down with a few weeks of conditioning ?!... Oh and plus 10gr dry hopped Goldings SOOooo! have I £%$*&^%£/messed up. Did have a sip of both the hop teas, the boiled tea was in my estimation at least 4-5 times more bitter than the steeped hops, that's why I only used 250ml. Will sip a sample of the beer prior to kegging it. I do have another kit which was a Christmas pressy to be put down this weekend it's St Peter's Golden Ale so any advice on the posible adjustment/addition to the ingredients knowng that I have Wyeast1968 and Golding... I know, I know - stop bloody tinkering will you, I hear you say.. tinkered all me life.. can't stop now.. wuff wuff says me best mate 'merlin' Nath on "Brew Years Day" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/brew-years-day#post-25447 Mon, 02 Jan 2012 17:48:59 +0000 Nath 25447@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Love the coffee filter in the steep ing pic, classic! The froth is normal, it has a tendancy to boil over the second you take your eyes off, but you seem to have it all under control. Keep us posted with sum fermentatin piccys, nice one chap! ZegaBrew on "Brew Years Day" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/brew-years-day#post-25401 Sun, 01 Jan 2012 15:16:34 +0000 ZegaBrew 25401@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Hi, Getting started on the first brew of the year. Recipe is as below - thanks to Saracen for his help on this. EX#2 - Admiral Nelson. Dried Malt Extract Pale. 10 EBC. 2350 grams. 96.5% of Extract Crystal Malt. 130 EBC. 150 grams. 3.5% of Extract Admiral Whole. AA 12.9%. 60 mins. 20 grams. 69.1% of EBU Nelson Sauvin Whole. AA 12.7%. 10 mins. 25 grams. 30.9% of EBU Nelson Sauvin Whole. AA 12.7%. 0 mins. 25 grams. 0% of EBU Final Volume: 19 Litres Original Gravity: 1.045 Final Gravity: 1.010 Alcohol Content: 4.5% ABV Bitterness: 48 EBU Colour: 20 EBC Will update as it goes, if its not too hectic there may even be some pics! Water is on. Grains <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/73272955@N07/6612653295/"><img src="http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7145/6612653295_eb8dd86092_m.jpg"></a> <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/73272955@N07/6612653295/">P1020363</a> by <a href="http://www.flickr.com/people/73272955@N07/">ZegaBrew</a>, on Flickr Grains have steeped, bringing to the boil now. <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/73272955@N07/6612663191/"><img src="http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7033/6612663191_8c36bafbf9_m.jpg"></a> <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/73272955@N07/6612663191/">P1020364</a> by <a href="http://www.flickr.com/people/73272955@N07/">ZegaBrew</a>, on Flickr Added 1kg DME - this has frothed up considerably. Is this normal? <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/73272955@N07/6612833657/"><img src="http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7161/6612833657_b22a262690_m.jpg"></a> <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/73272955@N07/6612833657/">P1020366</a> by <a href="http://www.flickr.com/people/73272955@N07/">ZegaBrew</a>, on Flickr The Admiral has been deployed.... there will probably be more puns to come... <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/73272955@N07/6612948133/"><img src="http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7174/6612948133_517f6e04eb_m.jpg"></a> <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/73272955@N07/6612948133/">P1020367</a> by <a href="http://www.flickr.com/people/73272955@N07/">ZegaBrew</a>, on Flickr Opened the Nelsons, oh my giddy aunt they smell good! 10 min additions going in. <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/73272955@N07/6613344021/"><img src="http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7026/6613344021_9504d3d3d6_m.jpg"></a> <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/73272955@N07/6613344021/">P1020369</a> by <a href="http://www.flickr.com/people/73272955@N07/">ZegaBrew</a>, on Flickr The flameout hops in. <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/73272955@N07/6613357517/"><img src="http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7029/6613357517_da7f3d58ea_m.jpg"></a> <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/73272955@N07/6613357517/">P1020370</a> by <a href="http://www.flickr.com/people/73272955@N07/">ZegaBrew</a>, on Flickr Going to leave them to steep a little, have made up the rest of the DME in some of the top up water OK, OG has come out at 1.043, target so pretty close. I ended up having about 0.5l extra water in the FV which may explain it. Yeast has been pitched. Not smelling as Nelsony as I was expecting it to but still smelling pretty good. Lets see how it turns out! Nath on "1st at success ish" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/1st-at-success-ish#post-25323 Sat, 31 Dec 2011 11:17:06 +0000 Nath 25323@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Strange, should be fine. Ive had beer in a keg for 2 months plus and hasnt gone bad. What did you store it in and has it been lovingly protected by a layer of co2? Iestyn on "1st at success ish" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/1st-at-success-ish#post-25188 Thu, 29 Dec 2011 17:52:16 +0000 Iestyn 25188@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Hi nath, my mates came over for a iestfest last night and I was proud to offer a choice of hbs and show the kit, which they couldn't believe could make such nice beer, the only down side was that the rocker apa has picked up quite a nasty tang and plays havoc with the digestive system, I may have to ditch it. Is this common and will it go away with age? Nath on "1st at success ish" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/1st-at-success-ish#post-25103 Wed, 28 Dec 2011 11:18:31 +0000 Nath 25103@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Well done on the first Ag mate. I wouldn't worry about hitting gravities and you were only a little out. You've already said where you may have gone a little wrong so next time you know what to adjust to get that final.003 points! Soon you will be tasting some great beer, it's really amazing what you can create at home init! saracen on "1st at success ish" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/1st-at-success-ish#post-25094 Wed, 28 Dec 2011 09:36:12 +0000 saracen 25094@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Hi Iestyn. Seems to have gone well. If you are moving on to GW's recipes, if you haven't already got it, download Beer Engine here: <a href="http://www.practicalbrewing.co.uk/calculators/beerengine/" rel="nofollow">http://www.practicalbrewing.co.uk/calculators/beerengine/</a> It's GW's own software and it's very useful for correcting recipe issues caused by differing hop alpha acid values. Every year is different and if you don't correct the figures you can sometimes by a long way out. For new hops, go into the Hop Editor to enter them, but for hops used in the recipes, it's best to make temporary changes with the 'alpha +' and 'alpha -' buttons along the bottom. If you make sure the '% EBU' button is checked, you can note the original figures, change the values and juggle the quantities to get back to the original proportions Iestyn on "1st at success ish" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/1st-at-success-ish#post-25093 Wed, 28 Dec 2011 09:02:56 +0000 Iestyn 25093@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Happy new year all and hope you had a good christmas Used the new kit and the summer lightning recipe from greg I messed up the sparging a bit and definitely will purchase a hop bag. Og came out 0003 under which I'm not too bothered about. The yeast is frothing nicely now sO fingers crossed Thanks for all the tips and help getting to ag Planning to get the other ag kits now, then on to gw recipes. Incidentally, I tried st peter's red and tribute a couple of days ago on the recomendations and loved them Cheers simonb_13 on "Oh No!" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/oh-no#post-24897 Fri, 23 Dec 2011 20:19:56 +0000 simonb_13 24897@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ It's a Lidl's jam boiler. It was only 30 quid and I've had a dozen brew out of it do I can't complain. Looking at a 40 litre one next. Just going to drain it out into FV and pitch. stuwilliams on "Oh No!" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/oh-no#post-24896 Fri, 23 Dec 2011 19:57:15 +0000 stuwilliams 24896@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Noooooooooooooo. That sucks. Mine has a reset switch on the base that tripped once. Had to stop mid boil, throw into bucket, turn upside, reset and then carry on. Does yours have one? What make is it? simonb_13 on "Oh No!" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/oh-no#post-24895 Fri, 23 Dec 2011 19:40:41 +0000 simonb_13 24895@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ After a 6 month's layoff I've got another Twibute on the go. As was well with the BIAB mash and in went the bittering hops. 30 mins later and go to put the next batch of hops and.. Oh dear, the boilers stopped! Change the fuse and still Nowt. Bugger! Decided to chuck all the hops in and let it steep, cool down and drain. Let's see what happens. New boiler for me then. Nath on "Brewday #1: Spiced Cider" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/brewday-1-spiced-cider#post-23508 Mon, 05 Dec 2011 18:08:03 +0000 Nath 23508@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Nice one mate, its a really interesting process that never gets boring... Oh and you get an alcoholic beverage at the end! RESULT! Barracuda on "Brewday #1: Spiced Cider" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/brewday-1-spiced-cider#post-23493 Mon, 05 Dec 2011 16:21:10 +0000 Barracuda 23493@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ I'm feeling fairly pleased with myself. My first homebrew is now on it's way. 3 demi's of Spiced Cider with some mulling spices and ginger. It may just be a flavoured Turbo Cider, but going through the process of sterilizing everything etc was something I wanted to do before I put my 30 bottle wine kit on next weekend. After sugar was added I recorded an OG of 1.050. I think theory dictates that'll put it at something like 7-8% depending how the fermentation goes? We'll see. Here's hoping it ends up tasting ok. Nath on "AG#3 undecided" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/ag3-undecided#post-23318 Sat, 03 Dec 2011 11:13:28 +0000 Nath 23318@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Pedigree? Nice one chum! I'll get me coat. Have a good brew day buddy sonicm1etn on "AG#3 undecided" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/ag3-undecided#post-23314 Sat, 03 Dec 2011 09:18:10 +0000 sonicm1etn 23314@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ its going to be a Pedigree <img src="http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_biggrin.gif" title=":D" class="bb_smilies" /> sonicm1etn on "AG#3 undecided" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/ag3-undecided#post-23298 Fri, 02 Dec 2011 19:55:54 +0000 sonicm1etn 23298@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Hoping to get AG#3 on the go tomorrow in between painting babies room (got a month or so to finish it) Don't know what I'll do yet but either Jenkins Cumberland or Marston's Pedigree depends what grain box I pull out first if it has terrified wheat (well wouldn't you be if your going to be soaked for 90mins at 66C) in it I'll do Cumberland if not Pedigree. Not sure which yeast have a selection of s-04, Nottingham & Windsor, again might just have a random dig in the fridge and see what come out first <img src="http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_biggrin.gif" title=":D" class="bb_smilies" /> Defiantly got bitten by this AG lark, just finished a cornie of my first AG Timothy Taylor Landlord, should have left it longer I think, but it tasted sooooo good, hence why I got to get this brew on this weekend as its my b'day next weekend and have a cornie of Summer lightning conditioning. I'm being good and attempting to connect it up until next Friday......At least I have sorted out Crimbo prezzies this year <img src="http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_lol.gif" title=":lol:" class="bb_smilies" /> Nath on "OPA OPA 2 - or as it is now known - "LEB" or "low efficency beer"" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/opa-opa-2-or-as-it-is-now-known-leb-or-low-efficency-beer#post-22246 Mon, 21 Nov 2011 22:34:42 +0000 Nath 22246@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Bugger me, the fermentation has blown the lid mostly off! Hmmmm what to do now! Nath on "OPA OPA 2 - or as it is now known - "LEB" or "low efficency beer"" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/opa-opa-2-or-as-it-is-now-known-leb-or-low-efficency-beer#post-22244 Mon, 21 Nov 2011 21:48:03 +0000 Nath 22244@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Heres the recipe:- Type: All Grain Date: 20/11/2011 Batch Size (fermenter): 24.00 l Brewer: Nath Boil Size: 33.31 l Asst Brewer: Boil Time: 75 min Equipment: Shiney! 19 End of Boil Volume 28.08 l Brewhouse Efficiency: 75.00 % Final Bottling Volume: 24.00 l Est Mash Efficiency 84.4 % Fermentation: Ale, Single Stage Taste Rating(out of 50): 30.0 Taste Notes: Ingredients Ingredients Amt Name Type # %/IBU 5.80 kg Pale Malt, Maris Otter (5.9 EBC) Grain 1 90.2 % 0.63 kg Caragold (10.0 EBC) Grain 2 9.8 % 55.00 g Target [12.97 %] - Boil 75.0 min Hop 3 62.9 IBUs 60.00 g Aurora [8.10 %] - Aroma Steep 30.0 min Hop 4 0.0 IBUs 1.0 pkg Dry English Ale (White Labs #WLP007) [35.49 ml] Yeast 5 - 20.00 g Aurora [8.10 %] - Dry Hop 7.0 Days Hop 6 0.0 IBUs Beer Profile Est Original Gravity: 1.063 SG Measured Original Gravity: 1.050 SG Est Final Gravity: 1.011 SG Measured Final Gravity: 1.012 SG Estimated Alcohol by Vol: 6.9 % Actual Alcohol by Vol: 5.0 % Bitterness: 62.9 IBUs Calories: 468.2 kcal/l Est Color: 10.5 EBC Mash Profile Mash Name: Single Infusion, Light Body, Batch Sparge Total Grain Weight: 6.43 kg Sparge Water: 24.18 l Grain Temperature: 22.2 C Sparge Temperature: 75.6 C Tun Temperature: 22.2 C Adjust Temp for Equipment: FALSE Mash PH: 5.20 Mash Steps Name Description Step Temperature Step Time Mash In Add 16.77 l of water at 70.6 C 64.4 C 75 min Sparge Step: Batch sparge with 3 steps (1.17l, 11.50l, 11.50l) of 75.6 C water Mash Notes: Simple single infusion mash for use with most modern well modified grains (about 95% of the time). But as my efficiency was 60% (see here - <a href="http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/efficiency-woes" rel="nofollow">http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/efficiency-woes</a> ) My bitterness and ratios are all out of sync! So the recipe is really more like this:- Type: All Grain Date: 20/11/2011 Batch Size (fermenter): 24.00 l Brewer: Nath Boil Size: 33.31 l Asst Brewer: Boil Time: 75 min Equipment: Shiney! 19 End of Boil Volume 28.08 l Brewhouse Efficiency: 60.00 % Final Bottling Volume: 24.00 l Est Mash Efficiency 67.5 % Fermentation: Ale, Single Stage Taste Rating(out of 50): 30.0 Taste Notes: Ingredients Ingredients Amt Name Type # %/IBU 5.80 kg Pale Malt, Maris Otter (5.9 EBC) Grain 1 90.2 % 0.63 kg Caragold (10.0 EBC) Grain 2 9.8 % 55.00 g Target [12.97 %] - Boil 75.0 min Hop 3 68.9 IBUs 60.00 g Aurora [8.10 %] - Aroma Steep 30.0 min Hop 4 0.0 IBUs 1.0 pkg Dry English Ale (White Labs #WLP007) [35.49 ml] Yeast 5 - 20.00 g Aurora [8.10 %] - Dry Hop 7.0 Days Hop 6 0.0 IBUs Beer Profile Est Original Gravity: 1.050 SG Measured Original Gravity: 1.050 SG Est Final Gravity: 1.009 SG Measured Final Gravity: 1.012 SG Estimated Alcohol by Vol: 5.5 % Actual Alcohol by Vol: 5.0 % Bitterness: 68.9 IBUs Calories: 468.2 kcal/l Est Color: 10.5 EBC Mash Profile Mash Name: Single Infusion, Light Body, Batch Sparge Total Grain Weight: 6.43 kg Sparge Water: 24.18 l Grain Temperature: 22.2 C Sparge Temperature: 75.6 C Tun Temperature: 22.2 C Adjust Temp for Equipment: FALSE Mash PH: 5.20 Mash Steps Name Description Step Temperature Step Time Mash In Add 16.77 l of water at 70.6 C 64.4 C 75 min Sparge Step: Batch sparge with 3 steps (1.17l, 11.50l, 11.50l) of 75.6 C water Mash Notes: Simple single infusion mash for use with most modern well modified grains (about 95% of the time). Brewed on Sunday and had the low efficiency problems. So its 70ibu instead of 60 and probably a whole percent or so lower in alcohol! But hey ho - its beer and fermented with some WLP007 yeast which has got the BIGGEST yeasty head on it 18hours after pitching! Smells great, those aurora hops are uber cool! sonicm1etn on "Brewday done:-)" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/brewday-done-#post-21474 Tue, 01 Nov 2011 21:11:36 +0000 sonicm1etn 21474@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ It was one of those good ideas at the time moment I should have kept with my original idea of having hlt in my shed on sturdy workbench & mash tun under on a toolbox......next time it's not going to be balanced on 2 boxes and a beer fridge. Mash tun wrapped up to keep warm, only lost 2C so all good. It's a coolbox as well, but as the temp outside starts to drop I'll see if I can pinch some of next doors 100mm Celotex insulation board as they building an extension, and make a box for the mash tun. must admit still impressed it all worked <img src="http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_biggrin.gif" title=":D" class="bb_smilies" /> saracen on "Brewday done:-)" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/brewday-done-#post-21465 Tue, 01 Nov 2011 20:19:06 +0000 saracen 21465@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Like the photos and the optimism with the boxes. Brings back bad memories. I presume that's the mash tun wrapped up to keep the temperature up. My mash tun is a converted cool box and I've cut a piece of thick, laminated insulation polyfoam (not polystyrene) which I think came with the TV, to fit inside the box on top of the grain. I wrapped aluminium foil round it and put it on top of the grain, fit the lid and yesterday's mash started at 68°c and after 2.5 hours it was still at 66°c. Jim on "Brewday done:-)" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/brewday-done-#post-21455 Tue, 01 Nov 2011 18:16:40 +0000 Jim 21455@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ yeah the facebook link worked fine! I like how you've got the hlt balanced on not 1 or 2 other boxes.. but 3! Oh well hindsight is a wonderful thing! <img src="http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_smile.gif" title=":-)" class="bb_smilies" /> sonicm1etn on "Brewday done:-)" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/brewday-done-#post-21454 Tue, 01 Nov 2011 18:00:57 +0000 sonicm1etn 21454@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Thanks for the replies. Hate the waiting game now, had a sniff of the bubbles coming through the airlock - WOW!!!! smells like real beer from a pub, 100% better than the two can kits I did earlier. Can't wait to get it though my tap....but I'm going to. anyway here some pics on FB <a href="http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10150421714180210.403465.742635209&type=1&l=84da7c5139">Face Book pics of brewday 1 clicky</a> I think it will work I made the album public. Joined Brew UK on FB to and saw this thread pop up <img src="http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_cool.gif" title="8)" class="bb_smilies" /> Can't wait for mid Nov when I'm going to do hopback summer lightning with a recipe kit from this shop, then I think Marston's Pedigree buying all the ingredients separately....nice to know even the experts on here have had a few things go wrong. Hope kitchen and dogs cats were OK after getting socked in sticky stuff. saracen on "Brewday done:-)" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/brewday-done-#post-21452 Tue, 01 Nov 2011 16:49:21 +0000 saracen 21452@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ I had a similar experience to your HLT a while back. With me, it was an FV with 18 lts of wort from the mash tun. I climbed a stepladder holding the FV ready to pour into the boiler, got to the top, and dropped the lot. All over me, the kitchen, the cat and the dog. Yes, you are probably thinking, why was he up a step ladder? It's a long story involving an experiment in gravity brewing and I'm still upset about the whole thing. Nath on "Brewday done:-)" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/brewday-done-#post-21432 Tue, 01 Nov 2011 09:57:43 +0000 Nath 21432@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Nottingman is well recieved by many a brewer and brewery, apparently our local(ish) brewery fff only uses Nottingham and they make some cracking beers. sonicm1etn on "Brewday done:-)" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/brewday-done-#post-21392 Sun, 30 Oct 2011 22:24:24 +0000 sonicm1etn 21392@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Hiya, Should have seen it before the HLT fell off, was some what precariously balanced. But a modification of thin rope solved that problem. Something to sort for next time. The mash smelt good, wifee came up to gazebo / brew tent said it smelt like wheatabix lol. Found it most interesting, and have already sussed what I'll do different next time - mainly the placement of my HLT, and get some more clear placcy pipe. I just used Danstar Nottingham that came in the pack I bought from Brewuk.......it's just started bubbling now. Got piccies, but just have to upload to my server so I can link them. Mid Nov should be the next brewday Nath on "Brewday done:-)" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/brewday-done-#post-21389 Sun, 30 Oct 2011 22:09:37 +0000 Nath 21389@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Brilliant job mate, goo to see determination even when the hlt fell off! It's a great process to do though init, really satisfying. So what yeast did you use? Jim on "Brewday done:-)" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/brewday-done-#post-21381 Sun, 30 Oct 2011 21:09:48 +0000 Jim 21381@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ well done! Sounds great.. apart from the hlt falling off the stand! I'm glad I've not experienced that yet! My 3rd AG was planned for yesterday but my homemade boiler sprung a leak due to my dodgy plumbing! I fixed it but by that time it was too late in the day to start again. sonicm1etn on "Brewday done:-)" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/brewday-done-#post-21376 Sun, 30 Oct 2011 17:37:16 +0000 sonicm1etn 21376@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Hi, Wasn't sure whether to carry on my first thread or start a new one. Just finished my first AG brewday, all in all a good day, slight hic-up to start with when the HLT fell off the stand, so put me back an hour while I re filled and heated it, but after than all seemed to go well, just waiting to see if the yeast starts working now. Will sort some pics later. Brew Day 1 30/10/11 All grain Timothy Taylor Landlord • Start 09:25 HLT on to warm • HLT fell off stand – water every where • HLT back on stand, re filled, tied so it doesn’t fall off • 1 off Campden tablet added. • Strike temp hit 10:30 • Mash Tun @ 68⁰C • Mash started 10:40 • Sparge started 12:10 Mash Tun @ 65⁰C <img src="http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_smile.gif" title=":-)" class="bb_smilies" /> • Batch Sparged • Boiler lit on low to keep Wort warm while batch sparging • Rolling Boil started @ 13:10 • 1st Hop @ 13:10 • Irish Moss @ 14:25 • 2nd Hop @ 14:30 • Flame out 14:40 • Chiller on • Wort to 30⁰C in 15 to 20 mins • In to fermenter 15:00ish • Yeast in after I had tidied the brew tent up @ 15:45 O.G 1.040 Not bad as recipe said 1.042 Just have to wait now to if it turns out good <img src="http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_cool.gif" title="8)" class="bb_smilies" /> Planning for Hopback Summer Lightning now grmski on "1st AG brewday planned" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/1st-ag-brewday-planned#post-21284 Thu, 27 Oct 2011 11:29:46 +0000 grmski 21284@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ +1 to Saracens advice a sheet with steps marked out and space for notes is really useful, it's very easy to forget things that happen during the brew. Then on your next brew give the notes a read through before you start and you will hopefully eliminate the errors and improve your process as you move on. Last night I did my 2nd biab all grain brew and by using this method I had not one hitch hit the right gravities and efficeincy so was well happy and issues that came up in the first brew were avoided this time by using the notes from the first attempt. Enjoy it too it's great fun. PMA on "1st AG brewday planned" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/1st-ag-brewday-planned#post-21283 Thu, 27 Oct 2011 10:25:00 +0000 PMA 21283@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ I don't think my nerves could take going AG. I get sweaty doing a Wherry. Nath on "1st AG brewday planned" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/1st-ag-brewday-planned#post-21282 Thu, 27 Oct 2011 10:20:32 +0000 Nath 21282@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Have a goodun mate, I remember how excited I was on my first AG brewday! Jim on "1st AG brewday planned" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/1st-ag-brewday-planned#post-21230 Tue, 25 Oct 2011 20:42:55 +0000 Jim 21230@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ good luck, i'm sure it'll go easier than you expect! sonicm1etn on "1st AG brewday planned" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/1st-ag-brewday-planned#post-21228 Tue, 25 Oct 2011 20:17:08 +0000 sonicm1etn 21228@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Thanks for that tip, I'll make a check list like the one that come with the wine kits I've done. I'll keep Graham Wheeler's book next to me as well. Have tested the HLT - it makes hot water <img src="http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_smile.gif" title=":-)" class="bb_smilies" /> Have checked propane bottles - full, and made sure the burner can boil 32l of water - it did. Wifee notified, and gazebo allowed to be used as brew tent - sorted <img src="http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_cool.gif" title="8)" class="bb_smilies" /> I've gone over the tips and 'how tos' on this forum and others, so hopefully the method has sunk in. saracen on "1st AG brewday planned" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/1st-ag-brewday-planned#post-21221 Tue, 25 Oct 2011 17:23:40 +0000 saracen 21221@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Good Luck. If it starts giving a problem, send up a distress flare. Someone on here might see it. Remember: Be scrupulously clean Be methodical Be Patient. It's a good idea to write up a Brew Sheet. Simply put on it all the steps in the order in which you will do them, then tick them off as you go. sonicm1etn on "1st AG brewday planned" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/1st-ag-brewday-planned#post-21219 Tue, 25 Oct 2011 17:18:57 +0000 sonicm1etn 21219@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Finally got all the kit, ingredients, and a day allocated for my first attempt at AG - looking forward to it. Sunday 30th is the chosen day, going to do a Timothy Taylor Landlord. <img src="http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_smile.gif" title=":-)" class="bb_smilies" /> Think I've sussed it all, but have readied myself in case it all goes tits up. Let you know how I do saracen on "Pale-ly Ale-ly! recipe & brewday" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/pale-y-ale-y#post-20713 Sun, 09 Oct 2011 14:56:25 +0000 saracen 20713@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Great you had such as good time with your mates, Nath. It's what this is all about and makes it all so worthwhile. Really pleased your beer turned out so well as we've both had a few wrong 'uns lately. Nath on "Pale-ly Ale-ly! recipe & brewday" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/pale-y-ale-y#post-20708 Sun, 09 Oct 2011 11:20:01 +0000 Nath 20708@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Righty had some mates over lastnight and had a chance to use my beer engine with this beer. I know it's a bit sad but pouring yourself a beer from one of these bad boys is so satisfying! We bought a fair few ales in and had some really nice bottles but this beer is spot on. It smells delicious due to the dry hopped cascade, the malt and hops are really balanced, the esb yeast really melds them together well. Cheers peeps! Nath on "Pale-ly Ale-ly! recipe & brewday" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/pale-y-ale-y#post-20653 Fri, 07 Oct 2011 19:37:22 +0000 Nath 20653@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Yeah. Ahem well I may have had a few more last night and I'm really liking this brew so far. Smells really nice and is nice and easy to drink. 3 pints of it last night so I must promise myself not to have too much more over the next couple of weeks. Anonymous on "Pale-ly Ale-ly! recipe & brewday" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/pale-y-ale-y#post-20651 Fri, 07 Oct 2011 18:45:39 +0000 Anonymous 20651@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Try it again in 6 weeks Nath...Dont get tempted. <img src="http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_lol.gif" title=":lol:" class="bb_smilies" /> Nath on "Pale-ly Ale-ly! recipe & brewday" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/pale-y-ale-y#post-20626 Thu, 06 Oct 2011 20:39:56 +0000 Nath 20626@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Right it has been kegged. Got a cornie full and 12 bottles (and I over spilt some while decanting from a pot to a conical when I first brewed so defo 28ltrs). It fermented to 1.008 so an abv of 4.4% which is nice, but it made me think - if the temp during mashing was 70c then it should have added more non-fermentables making the body more heavy - which in turn would make the fermentation stop at a higher gravity. Obviously this didnt happen so why did it ferment this low??? Anyhoo I was going to leave it "dryhopping" for another day or so, but we have friends over saturday night and all was clear in the fermenter so I bit the bullet. The beer tastes ok at the mo, pretty balanced malt and hops with no lingering aftertaste so we shall see how this one goes the next few days. I had a quick half from the cornie and it has impressive head retention (as did the other recipe with caragold). The beer is lighter than I expected, but then there wasnt really anything else but pale malt in there with a touch of caragold. So to recap I hit pretty much all targets, the beer looks promising and is clear as a bell. Now we play.............. THE WAITING GAME! Nath on "Pale-ly Ale-ly! recipe & brewday" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/pale-y-ale-y#post-20575 Tue, 04 Oct 2011 17:36:35 +0000 Nath 20575@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ I only use that when I vourlaf, my problem was I must have hit a colder pocket when taking the initial mash temp as it was 2c higher by the end! saracen on "Pale-ly Ale-ly! recipe & brewday" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/pale-y-ale-y#post-20571 Tue, 04 Oct 2011 16:33:24 +0000 saracen 20571@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ I was looking at some of your kit and I noticed a sheet of aluminium foil. I have a piece of polyfoam about an inch thick. Don't know how you describe it, but it looks laminated and usually comes in the packaging with large, flat, usually glass things. I cut a piece to fit inside my mash tun, wrapped a pieve of ally foil round it and the mash temperature stays spot on for ages. saracen on "Pale-ly Ale-ly! recipe & brewday" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/pale-y-ale-y#post-20570 Tue, 04 Oct 2011 16:30:07 +0000 saracen 20570@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Good. All heading in the right direction, then. I really do think there's something in this business of avoiding summer brewing, unless you have a brew fridge. Good stuff, 1968. I think I've got mine back to something usable after it seemed to go rotten. Nath on "Pale-ly Ale-ly! recipe & brewday" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/pale-y-ale-y#post-20569 Tue, 04 Oct 2011 15:58:45 +0000 Nath 20569@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Righty its down to 1.010 and has been "roused" a few times in the last week. I chucked in 20g of Cascade today with the intention of bottling/kegging Friday night/Saturday morning. Clear as a clear thing (thank you 1968!) and tastes ok. Nath on "Pale-ly Ale-ly! recipe & brewday" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/pale-y-ale-y#post-20443 Fri, 30 Sep 2011 08:22:52 +0000 Nath 20443@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Well it was all going great but this damn heat wave (com' on its nearly October!) is playing havock with my fermentation temps. Its in a garage and in a water bath but ive had to resort at getting up at an ungodly hour to plop frozen bottles in there to keep it at a cooler temp. Fingers crossed as the temp has stayed around 20-21 (as long as the cheap min max thermometer is good). I will bring it inside for a nice 2 day rest before bottling. Smells nice though, cant wait to dry hop with some yummy cascade! Nath on "Pale-ly Ale-ly! recipe & brewday" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/pale-y-ale-y#post-20418 Wed, 28 Sep 2011 17:32:40 +0000 Nath 20418@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Well that didnt go too badly! Grains and a bit of Gypsum <img src="http://i739.photobucket.com/albums/xx39/nath812/88d15dd1.jpg"> Sparging <img src="http://i739.photobucket.com/albums/xx39/nath812/beb96daf.jpg"> Sparging with the pump underletting the boiler <img src="http://i739.photobucket.com/albums/xx39/nath812/7aa59403.jpg"> The aroma hops - Mmmmmmm styrianific! <img src="http://i739.photobucket.com/albums/xx39/nath812/6637b9ea.jpg"> Well I was shooting for 1.045 but got 1.042 which I was a little miffed at but then I saw the amount I got from the boiler. It must be about 28ltrs, so I over shot by 3 ltrs. Gonna reduce the amount of sparge water next time and then we shall see! Still a good brewday, pitched slightly on the warm side but on a concrete floor and surrounded by cool water at the mo to drop it fast as poss, not really worried, by the time the yeasties have started to munch on the sugar the temp should be a steady 20c ish. Nath on "Pale-ly Ale-ly! recipe & brewday" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/pale-y-ale-y#post-20414 Wed, 28 Sep 2011 13:40:35 +0000 Nath 20414@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Right well today was the brewday (at flippin' last) and I changed the recipe slightly so I could use up my caragold:- Recipe: Lastchance cascade! v1.1 TYPE: All Grain Style: Special/Best/Premium Bitter ---RECIPE SPECIFICATIONS----------------------------------------------- SRM: 8.4 EBC SRM RANGE: 9.8-31.5 EBC IBU: 30.1 IBUs Tinseth IBU RANGE: 25.0-40.0 IBUs OG: 1.045 SG OG RANGE: 1.040-1.048 SG FG: 1.012 SG FG RANGE: 1.008-1.012 SG BU:GU: 0.700 Calories: 386.5 kcal/l Est ABV: 4.1 % EE%: 71.00 % Batch: 25.00 l Boil: 36.44 l BT: 75 Mins ---WATER CHEMISTRY ADDITIONS---------------- Amt Name Type # %/IBU 4.50 kg Pale Malt, Maris Otter (5.9 EBC) Grain 1 90 % 0.50 kg Caragold (10.0 EBC) Grain 2 10 % Total Grain Weight: 4.85 kg Total Hops: 151.00 g oz. ---MASH PROCESS------MASH PH:5.40 ------ >>>>>>>>>>-ADD WATER CHEMICALS BEFORE GRAINS!!<<<<<<< Name Description Step Temperat Step Time Mash In Add 12.61 l of water at 72.4 C 66.0 C 60 min ---SPARGE PROCESS--- >>>>>>>>>>-RECYCLE FIRST RUNNINGS & VERIFY GRAIN/MLT TEMPS: 22.2 C/22.2 C >>>>>>>>>>-ADD BOIL CHEMICALS BEFORE FWH Fly sparge with 29.89 l water at 78.0 C ---BOIL PROCESS----------------------------- Est Pre_Boil Gravity: 1.034 SG Est OG: 1.043 SG Amt Name Type # %/IBU 40.00 g Goldings, East Kent [5.68 %] - Boil 75.0 Hop 1 21.6 IBUs 26.00 g Goldings, East Kent [5.68 %] - Boil 15.0 Hop 2 6.7 IBUs 15.00 g Styrian Goldings (Savinjski) [2.95 %] - Boil 15.0 Hop 3 2.0 IBUs 1tsp Irish moss & 1tsp yeast nutrient - Boil 15.0 4 50.00 g Styrian Goldings (Savinjski) [2.95 %] - Aroma Hop 5 1000ml Pitch Starter of 1968 ESB Wyeast 6 After 9 days of fermentation 20g Cascade - Dry Hop 7 So its gone well so far. All the tap water needed went through a carbon filter and had a campden tab (dunno why but I thought it may as well, just incase the filter didnt do its job for an unknown reason) then the mash water was treated with 2.3g gypsum and 8mls crs (which is 4ml short of the reccomened but I dont like using it that much). The mash doughed in fine and I took a temp of 66.8 which is fine. After an hour and 20 mins I got ready to fly sparge but when I took the temp of the mash to see what it dropped to it actually read 70c! I must really take care and look at mash temp more in the time its mashing. Still no biggie and whats done is done! The ph came out at 5.5 which I am very happy with. So I sparged with 30ltrs of water and kept the grain beds temp at around 75-77c which is great. The sparging took 25mins and it stopped at 1.012 which again is good. Boiling now and smelling fine! Be back later with some piccys. Nath on "Pale-ly Ale-ly! recipe & brewday" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/pale-y-ale-y#post-20176 Wed, 21 Sep 2011 18:01:10 +0000 Nath 20176@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Don't see why not mate. Just steep the amount you want for the required 30 mins at 66ish c and off you go! Just remember that I haven't brewed this recipe before so we are both guinea pigs! If you want a more tested version search for lastchance EPA it's a similar recipe without the cascade that should scale up well with your increase in alcohol level Bodger on "Pale-ly Ale-ly! recipe & brewday" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/pale-y-ale-y#post-20165 Wed, 21 Sep 2011 11:54:49 +0000 Bodger 20165@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Hello chaps, I have Goldings and Styrian to use up and a packet of Cascade I've been waiting to open. I'm gonna give this a go using the extract method based on the WT Amarillo amounts ie 3kg extract + 21L water = 5.1% abv I have some crystal malt that I haven't tried and would like to give a go, is this a good idea? Hamish on "Pale-ly Ale-ly! recipe & brewday" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/pale-y-ale-y#post-20156 Tue, 20 Sep 2011 21:12:54 +0000 Hamish 20156@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Should be good, try to make it last longer than a week this time. <img src="http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_wink.gif" title=":wink:" class="bb_smilies" /> Nath on "Pale-ly Ale-ly! recipe & brewday" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/pale-y-ale-y#post-20149 Tue, 20 Sep 2011 19:15:57 +0000 Nath 20149@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ It was in the original recipe for the malts so I just wanted to keep it in there, dont really know much about it apart from this gumpf:- <center>With the help of the beer tasting panels from Brewing Research International, a new low colour roasted caramel malt with defined flavour was developed for lager brewing. The HCGA Enterprise award has enabled the production of a low colour malt, involving twelve months’ extensive pilot malting and brewing trials at BRI, followed by commercial malt production at French and Jupp’s. Malty, fruity and toffee flavour notes are carried through to the beer. Low malt colour produces a golden orange lager with increased body and fullness. Softer, rounder mouth-feel with improved drinkability.</center> I dont really use much of it in a recipe so for the next brew I may up the quantity somewhat to see what it really brings! simonb_13 on "Pale-ly Ale-ly! recipe & brewday" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/pale-y-ale-y#post-20148 Tue, 20 Sep 2011 19:12:39 +0000 simonb_13 20148@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Nowt wrong with that! Why the CaraGold? Nath on "Pale-ly Ale-ly! recipe & brewday" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/pale-y-ale-y#post-20146 Tue, 20 Sep 2011 17:03:49 +0000 Nath 20146@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Hey peeps, Brewday Saturday. Going for a similar (ish) brew to the lastchance EPA which was a mega success. The hops have been changed a bit as I wanted to a) lower the IBUs from around 37 to 30 and b) wanted to get some cascade in the fv for dry hopping as I havnt used cascade for about a year now! Im also upping the abv as while it was a great drink, I found myself drinking it too fast as it was 3.4%, this one is going to be around 4.2% The left over cascade will be used in an IPA next brewday with some aurora which I have kept for a while in the fridge - I may even pitch on the slurry, or should I just double my starter and keep one in the fridge..... (hmmmmm another topic coming) Anyhoo - heres the recipe for you lot to have a butchers at - any ideas welcome <img src="http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_smile.gif" title=":)" class="bb_smilies" /> Recipe: Lastchance cascade! v1.1 TYPE: All Grain Style: Special/Best/Premium Bitter ---RECIPE SPECIFICATIONS----------------------------------------------- SRM: 8.1 EBC SRM RANGE: 9.8-31.5 EBC IBU: 30.3 IBUs Tinseth IBU RANGE: 25.0-40.0 IBUs OG: 1.043 SG OG RANGE: 1.040-1.048 SG FG: 1.012 SG FG RANGE: 1.008-1.012 SG BU:GU: 0.700 Calories: 386.5 kcal/l Est ABV: 4.1 % EE%: 71.00 % Batch: 25.00 l Boil: 36.44 l BT: 75 Mins ---WATER CHEMISTRY ADDITIONS---------------- Amt Name Type # %/IBU 4.50 kg Pale Malt, Maris Otter (5.9 EBC) Grain 1 92.8 % 0.35 kg Caragold (10.0 EBC) Grain 2 7.2 % Total Grain Weight: 4.85 kg Total Hops: 151.00 g oz. ---MASH PROCESS------MASH PH:5.40 ------ >>>>>>>>>>-ADD WATER CHEMICALS BEFORE GRAINS!!<<<<<<< Name Description Step Temperat Step Time Mash In Add 12.61 l of water at 72.4 C 66.0 C 60 min ---SPARGE PROCESS--- >>>>>>>>>>-RECYCLE FIRST RUNNINGS & VERIFY GRAIN/MLT TEMPS: 22.2 C/22.2 C >>>>>>>>>>-ADD BOIL CHEMICALS BEFORE FWH Fly sparge with 29.89 l water at 78.0 C ---BOIL PROCESS----------------------------- Est Pre_Boil Gravity: 1.034 SG Est OG: 1.043 SG Amt Name Type # %/IBU 40.00 g Goldings, East Kent [5.68 %] - Boil 75.0 Hop 1 21.6 IBUs 26.00 g Goldings, East Kent [5.68 %] - Boil 15.0 Hop 2 6.7 IBUs 15.00 g Styrian Goldings (Savinjski) [2.95 %] - Boil 15.0 Hop 3 2.0 IBUs 1tsp Irish moss - Boil 15.0 4 50.00 g Styrian Goldings (Savinjski) [2.95 %] - Aroma Hop 5 1000ml Pitch Starter of 1968 ESB Wyeast 6 After 9 days of fermentation 20g Cascade - Dry Hop 7 Primary Start: 13/08/2011 - 14.00 Days at 19.0 C Iestyn on "Amarillo Brew day - a nagging concern" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/amarillo-brew-day-a-nagging-concern#post-20084 Sun, 18 Sep 2011 08:41:18 +0000 Iestyn 20084@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Checked this morning and there's a nice foamy head - lucky escape methinks! thanks again for the reassurance and advice. Iestyn on "Amarillo Brew day - a nagging concern" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/amarillo-brew-day-a-nagging-concern#post-20077 Sat, 17 Sep 2011 19:36:35 +0000 Iestyn 20077@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Thanks so much all. I'll be keen to check tomorrow morning, fingers crossed. Iestyn on "Amarillo Brew day - a nagging concern" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/amarillo-brew-day-a-nagging-concern#post-20076 Sat, 17 Sep 2011 19:22:44 +0000 Iestyn 20076@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Thanks so much all. I'll be keen to check tomorrow morning, fingers crossed. Greg on "Amarillo Brew day - a nagging concern" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/amarillo-brew-day-a-nagging-concern#post-20073 Sat, 17 Sep 2011 18:26:29 +0000 Greg 20073@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Really you should leave the lid off or at least partially off so that DMS (Dimethyl Sulfide) can be boiled off otherwise it can lead to off flavours in the beer. Sorry I can't really remember the science behind this for a more detailed explanation. stray66uk on "Amarillo Brew day - a nagging concern" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/amarillo-brew-day-a-nagging-concern#post-20072 Sat, 17 Sep 2011 17:29:09 +0000 stray66uk 20072@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Hi I too will be making the amarillo kit in the next few days and my stockpot is also very thin. I,m sure I read somewhere that the lid should be left off to let something or other escape. Its probably linked to all grain and I,m sure Saracen will explain shortly. saracen on "Amarillo Brew day - a nagging concern" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/amarillo-brew-day-a-nagging-concern#post-20068 Sat, 17 Sep 2011 16:39:01 +0000 saracen 20068@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Hi. The extract you had in the tins was very concentrated and therefore very viscous. Whichever extract you use, Liquid or Dried, it has to become liquid, virtually water, for it to be transformed into beer, so yes, it should be like a stock. No need to leave the lid off. Leaving the wort to cool is not too much of a problem so long as you have a lid on it. You need to guard against bacteria entering the solution, and to be honest, that can happen when you pour it into the FV, stir it, add yeast, all sorts of stages. I shouldn't worry about leaving it a few hours to cool. Just don't put it anywhere silly, like standing on the manhole cover to the sewer. The rapid cooling is for All Grain where you need to achieve a 'cold break'. 26°c should be ok. You need to ferment your beer at the lower end of the temperature scale to get the best flavour, so put it somewhere cool to get it down to 19° to 20°c. With a lid and an airlock, there's no reason why you can't leave it in the garden to cool doewn. At the temperature you pitched the yeast, it should be going well in about 6 hours, or less. Personally, I would have waited. I was told they're not seeds. I can't remember what they are called, but they are bits that carry the Alpha Acid and perfectly OK. It should all go well. Iestyn on "Amarillo Brew day - a nagging concern" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/amarillo-brew-day-a-nagging-concern#post-20067 Sat, 17 Sep 2011 16:04:34 +0000 Iestyn 20067@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Hi guys, wife was out shopping, it's hammering down outside and the 15ltr stockpot arrived so took the plunge and went ahead with the amarillo recipe from Brew UK. Instructions were easy and great. All started off well... I realised that the stockpot, being so thin, doesn't get an aggressive boil on so I kept the lid on for the whole hour and a bit.The wort smelt amazing but looked like a stock rather than the thick syrup which I had in the Coopers cans on the last two batches. Should the wort be more like a syrup or a stock? (should I have left the lid off to boil down). When it came to sieving the stock into the fermenter, (glad there were two of us!) the final temp at 21 lts was in the mid thirties!! I left it for half an hour (to pick up the wife), added some ice cubes and it was around 26. I've read here from someone (vague, sorry)that the wort shouldn't be left too long so I went ahead and added the yeast. Yeast guidelines say 15-24deg so I may have botched it. What happens, does the yeast just die if it's too hot? I'll have to wait and see if any fermentation occurs. What would you guys have done if the temp of the wort was over - just wait or add the yeast? Also, there are still seeds from the hops in the wort, is that ok? I'm a 'barrel's half full' kind of guy, so I'm hopeful, if not impatient! cheers guys, hope you're all enjoying the weeknd (and rugby!) Iestyn Nath on "Loosechance Bitter Brewday!" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/loosechance-bitter#post-19513 Sun, 04 Sep 2011 15:39:57 +0000 Nath 19513@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Righty this fermented out to 1.008 so thats 3.4%, I didnt dryhop this one and it went into corny and 12 bottles 9th september. The beer had a slightly "bitey" aftertaste when transferred which I didnt really like but its mellowing out now. The brew isnt clear and has a haze about it so im hoping that will clear in the next week. The flavour is similar to the last pale hop wise (as its very similar in hops, bar the amarillo, which in hindsight should have been saved for dryhopping). Chocolate is just the right amount, and is in now way overpowering as it can be it larger amounts. Anyhoo, I will post an update in about a week when its hopefully a little clearer and less bitter. Nath on "Loosechance Bitter Brewday!" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/loosechance-bitter#post-19147 Sun, 21 Aug 2011 15:33:20 +0000 Nath 19147@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Yep pour away the worty stuff and then I use a bit of my beer uim brewing in there, mix it up and pitch into the fv Als Pals on "Loosechance Bitter Brewday!" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/loosechance-bitter#post-19146 Sun, 21 Aug 2011 15:01:40 +0000 Als Pals 19146@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Great pics Nath, got a quick question about the starter you make, do you pour the whole 1 litre starter into the new wort or do you pour away most of the old 1 litre starter wort and just use the settled bit of yeast at the bottom into your 25 litre wort, if that makes sense? <img src="http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_confused.gif" title=":?" class="bb_smilies" /> Nath on "Loosechance Bitter Brewday!" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/loosechance-bitter#post-19145 Sun, 21 Aug 2011 14:54:29 +0000 Nath 19145@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Yeast after 8hrs on stirplate <img src="http://i739.photobucket.com/albums/xx39/nath812/a35a33fe.jpg"> Yeast settled out after a day off from spinning! <img src="http://i739.photobucket.com/albums/xx39/nath812/b2223def.jpg"> Grain Shot <img src="http://i739.photobucket.com/albums/xx39/nath812/bb8b3429.jpg"> Just a bit full - this is after I decanted and spilled a load! <img src="http://i739.photobucket.com/albums/xx39/nath812/4b423658.jpg"> Half full Demijon as well! <img src="http://i739.photobucket.com/albums/xx39/nath812/4b230328.jpg"> Great relaxing brewday, starting to find my way with the setup now. To congratulate myself I may have to buy myself a counterflow chiller! Nath on "Loosechance Bitter Brewday!" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/loosechance-bitter#post-19141 Sun, 21 Aug 2011 13:55:54 +0000 Nath 19141@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Righty, got 26 ltrs at 1.034 I had to decant some from the fv into a demijhohn. Mental. The efficiency was 67% which is a little low, but if I can keep it a constant thats ok by me. Bonus on the amount though, strange as the last batch which had a similar amount of hops I only got 22.5 ltrs, maybe its because I left the l;id on 1/2 way this time. Looks and smells great and I cant wait to see how this yeast does. Piccys later! Nath on "Loosechance Bitter Brewday!" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/loosechance-bitter#post-19136 Sun, 21 Aug 2011 10:56:08 +0000 Nath 19136@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Righty, using Loosecannons yeast on this one, hence the name of the beer. The yeast is looking nice and healthy after being swirled around my stir plate for the last 2 days, settled out nicely! Heres the final recipe - Recipe Specifications -------------------------- Boil Size: 36.44 l Post Boil Volume: 30.16 l Batch Size (fermenter): 25.00 l Bottling Volume: 25.00 l Estimated OG: 1.037 SG Estimated Color: 15.1 EBC Estimated IBU: 24.7 IBUs Brewhouse Efficiency: 71.00 % Est Mash Efficiency: 82.4 % Boil Time: 75 Minutes Ingredients: ------------ Amt Name Type # %/IBU 3.80 kg Pale Malt, Maris Otter (5.9 EBC) Grain 1 90.9 % 0.20 kg Caragold (10.0 EBC) Grain 2 4.8 % 0.03 kg Chocolate Malt (886.5 EBC) Grain 4 0.7 % 0.15 kg Caramel/Crystal Malt - 80L (157.6 EBC) Grain 3 3.6 % 22.00 g Goldings, East Kent [5.22 %] - Boil 75.0 Hop 5 11.4 IBUs 17.00 g Goldings, East Kent [5.68 %] - Boil 75.0 Hop 6 9.6 IBUs 22.00 g Amarillo [8.90 %] - Boil 5.0 min Hop 7 3.7 IBUs 50.00 g Styrian Goldings (Savinjski) [2.95 %] - Dry Hop 8 0.0 IBUs 1.0 pkg Loosecannon (Rebelion #N/A) Yeast 9 - 20.00 g Styrian Goldings (Savinjski) [2.95 %] - Hop 10 0.0 IBUs Ive hit all my targets so far, again no water treatments just water run through a carbon filter. I used a thermometer in my grain bed to see what temp the sparge was going at - I found that I had to heat my water to 85c to get a grain bed temp of 76c (which is what GW recommends). Piccys to follow! Jim on "GW all grain Bathams clone" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/gw-all-grain-bathams-clone#post-18996 Wed, 17 Aug 2011 16:54:15 +0000 Jim 18996@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Just an quick update on this brew.. I've sampled 3 of the bottles of this brew over the past 2 weeks and I've had one super fizzy, one as flat as a witches t!t and one that started off OK but then went quite flat very quickly. Becuase of these inconsistencies I decided to leave the bottles for a while but last night I decided to crack open one of my minikegs.. and I'm so glad I did! <img src="http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/bb-plugins/default/icon_smile.gif" title=":-)" class="bb_smilies" /> The beer is lovely! Not quite there with the Bathams taste but as this was my first AG brew I'm not surprised at that but it's more than drinkable and, I'm sure you'll agree, looks fantastic: <img src="http://i1214.photobucket.com/albums/cc496/misterperks/minikegged2.jpg"> <img src="http://i1214.photobucket.com/albums/cc496/misterperks/minikegged.jpg"> I'll definitely be trying this brew again with a view to getting it closer to the original saracen on "Extract #2 Twibute Act" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/extract-2-twibute-act#post-18312 Wed, 27 Jul 2011 21:10:04 +0000 saracen 18312@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ It could be done, but to only ferment down to 1.018 from 1.043 indicates an attenuation of only about 60%. I don't know which yeast you used, but nearly all of them will go to 75% which brings it down to 1.010. If you take hydro readings 24 hours apart that will tell you if the fermentation is still going on. Hi Simon. <blockquote>Use the brewing method outlined in the Way to Amarillo extract recipe but add the steeping of grains bit at the beginning of this recipe.</blockquote> The brewing method you outlined isn't 100% correct. WTA is a recipe originally formulated for extract and the hop bill will be adjusted for that brewing method. Twibute is an AG recipe and the hop bill will be suited to the SG of that recipe. Although it won't make much difference, you need to keep the SG of the wort at around 1.040 to 1.050 in order for the hop extraction efficiency to work correcly. (That's why an 8.0 lt boil is better than 6.0 lts.) Because of this, only 1 kg of DME goes in the boil and all the rest of the DME goes in after the boil. The last 2 hops at 10 mins will impart some bitterness, and with the extra DME added before, the amount of extraction will be considerably lower. I'm not sure if you have Beer Engine, but if you do, load up a recipe with 1.0 kg of any DME and 50 gms of Target hops with the volume set at 6.0 lts. You'll see you get 240 IBU. Add a further 1.0 kg of DME and check the IBU. Then add another and check again. You'll see how drastically the IBU goes down as the SG goes up. chef on "Extract #2 Twibute Act" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/extract-2-twibute-act#post-18306 Wed, 27 Jul 2011 18:20:04 +0000 chef 18306@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ it really looks like it's done to me but i don't want to screw it up so i will take your advice. Thank you! Might move it out of the kitchen- it's 23C at the moment. I worried it would be too warm to brew but the yeast seems happy. The cooler area is carpeted so glad it wasn't there initially. saracen on "Extract #2 Twibute Act" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/extract-2-twibute-act#post-18294 Wed, 27 Jul 2011 15:54:01 +0000 saracen 18294@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Hi Chef. 1.018 is a bit high. You really want to be down to 1.012. If you take hydro readings at 24 hr intervals, when it stays the same the ferment is over and it can be bottled. Bottling at 1.018 will almost certainly lead to a great deal of pressure in the bottles. You really should leave it in the FV for 2 weeks. That will make sure the ferment is over and the beer will be almost clear, which means less sediment in the bottles. If you're worried about the heat, and my FV only shows 19.2°c today, drape a damp towel over it. simonb_13 on "Extract #2 Twibute Act" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/extract-2-twibute-act#post-18293 Wed, 27 Jul 2011 15:50:52 +0000 simonb_13 18293@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ Might be a wee bit high but you need to take readings over 2 or 3 days. If they remain constant then it's stopped fermenting and can be bottled. Leaving it until Monday should be fine. chef on "Extract #2 Twibute Act" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/extract-2-twibute-act#post-18292 Wed, 27 Jul 2011 14:17:02 +0000 chef 18292@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ i made a batch of this up on monday. Made it up to 23l cos i had the ingredients and it bubbled up over the sides. Looks like it's finished now with a fg of 1.017. Safe to bottle or shall i leave it? If i leave it it'll be monday before it gets bottled. I don't want to leave it hanging around in this heat! Jim on "GW all grain Bathams clone" http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/topic/gw-all-grain-bathams-clone#post-18245 Tue, 26 Jul 2011 09:18:37 +0000 Jim 18245@http://www.brewuk.co.uk/forum/ thanks Hamish, I couldn't believe how clear it was and, apart from a lack of bubbles, it looked ready to drink! jampot you must have quite a collection of bottles/barrels! I look forward to hearing how yours turned out when you do eventually open one